PM: Nationwide transportation expansion to complete in 2017

[tbthailand]

It is becoming increasingly clear that the only difference to having Prayuth or Thaksin in power is that one needs martial law and the other doesn't.

Other than that, the policies are all the same.

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

did you not recently mention being in Thailand for over 30 years?

If that is true, then, while I understand slamming Thaksin for being corrupt, what I don't understand are the statements supporting the generals as being the right group to clean up corruption in Thailand. You, who should have experienced personally during 30+ years in Thailand's history the military's amazing corruption and complete inability to 'clean-up' Thailand. It's never been on their radar.

Thaksin, is one person among many people who are corrupt in Thailand. The army is an entire organization with 7+ decades history of corruption.

So beyond the democracy/coup discussion, I wonder what makes you put your faith in the army to clean up Thailand? It doesn't make much sense to me. Just curious...

[RKASA]

Something doesn't add up here.

The headline reads that the Transportation Expansion will be completed by 2017. However 1 project doesn't even begin until 2017 and 1 is expected to be completed in 2018

Looks like smoke and mirrors again

"complete road construction and expansion in every region of Thailand as well as connecting them with border points by 2017" in the bold area only the roads will be done by then. Many other things talked about - most not even off paper yet so they could never be done by then anyway. Seems every government no matter how where or when as of the past 10 years has been making effort to move the train thing forward - admitted - it is a tough nut. Would like to see them start the station and maintenance depot development in P'lok and get some over passes on more then just the 12 in the center of town.

[ginjag]

It is becoming increasingly clear that the only difference to having Prayuth or Thaksin in power is that one needs martial law and the other doesn't.

Other than that, the policies are all the same.

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

did you not recently mention being in Thailand for over 30 years?

If that is true, then, while I understand slamming Thaksin for being corrupt, what I don't understand are the statements supporting the generals as being the right group to clean up corruption in Thailand. You, who should have experienced personally during 30+ years in Thailand's history the military's amazing corruption and complete inability to 'clean-up' Thailand. It's never been on their radar.

Thaksin, is one person among many people who are corrupt in Thailand. The army is an entire organization with 7+ decades history of corruption.

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt, You do not trust The PM. I do not trust The Shins. simple isn't it.

The shins were thrown out, shot themselves in the foot.

Let the PM have the same time in office and see what happens. If he shoots himself in the foot then we start the ball all over again. On record like the Shins we do not stand much chance, but there is a chance and hope the Army can learn from the past. No guarantees. 1 last hope.

[Robespiere]

It is becoming increasingly clear that the only difference to having Prayuth or Thaksin in power is that one needs martial law and the other doesn't.

Other than that, the policies are all the same.

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

did you not recently mention being in Thailand for over 30 years?

If that is true, then, while I understand slamming Thaksin for being corrupt, what I don't understand are the statements supporting the generals as being the right group to clean up corruption in Thailand. You, who should have experienced personally during 30+ years in Thailand's history the military's amazing corruption and complete inability to 'clean-up' Thailand. It's never been on their radar.

Thaksin, is one person among many people who are corrupt in Thailand. The army is an entire organization with 7+ decades history of corruption.

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt, You do not trust The PM. I do not trust The Shins. simple isn't it.

The shins were thrown out, shot themselves in the foot.

Let the PM have the same time in office and see what happens. If he shoots himself in the foot then we start the ball all over again. On record like the Shins we do not stand much chance, but there is a chance and hope the Army can learn from the past. No guarantees. 1 last hope.

1. Interested to know your views on the microphone purchases and Prayuths little brothers wealth. Please do tell.

2. Whether they shot themselves in the foot or not, the Shinawatras were always going to get thrown out because bypassing elections is the only way for the yellows to gain power. Yingluck did extremely well to avoid any gaffes for so long that would have provided the opening for an earlier coup. The good news of this situation is that is clearly getting much more difficult for these guys to conduct coups - this could well be the last successful coup in this land of coups.

3. So the army can learn from the past but the Shinawatras can't? Why is this so? It appears you are favouring one side over the other here. One can either be an objective and impartial observer and commentator or a stooge for a cause. Your comment here lands you in stooge territory.

4. If this is the "1 last hope" how do we "start the ball all over again". You've managed to contradict yourself in a 4 line post - Well done.

[ginjag]

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

did you not recently mention being in Thailand for over 30 years?

If that is true, then, while I understand slamming Thaksin for being corrupt, what I don't understand are the statements supporting the generals as being the right group to clean up corruption in Thailand. You, who should have experienced personally during 30+ years in Thailand's history the military's amazing corruption and complete inability to 'clean-up' Thailand. It's never been on their radar.

Thaksin, is one person among many people who are corrupt in Thailand. The army is an entire organization with 7+ decades history of corruption.

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt, You do not trust The PM. I do not trust The Shins. simple isn't it.

The shins were thrown out, shot themselves in the foot.

Let the PM have the same time in office and see what happens. If he shoots himself in the foot then we start the ball all over again. On record like the Shins we do not stand much chance, but there is a chance and hope the Army can learn from the past. No guarantees. 1 last hope.

1. Interested to know your views on the microphone purchases and Prayuths little brothers wealth. Please do tell.

2. Whether they shot themselves in the foot or not, the Shinawatras were always going to get thrown out because bypassing elections is the only way for the yellows to gain power. Yingluck did extremely well to avoid any gaffes for so long that would have provided the opening for an earlier coup. The good news of this situation is that is clearly getting much more difficult for these guys to conduct coups - this could well be the last successful coup in this land of coups.

3. So the army can learn from the past but the Shinawatras can't? Why is this so? It appears you are favouring one side over the other here. One can either be an objective and impartial observer and commentator or a stooge for a cause. Your comment here lands you in stooge territory.

4. If this is the "1 last hope" how do we "start the ball all over again". You've managed to contradict yourself in a 4 line post - Well done.

Read your first line---enough thanks---1 word tablets for schools.

So I am a stooge, and contradict myself.

Better than being in denial re the Shins dy---nasty.

I favour giving the PM a chance----keep smiling try not to insult posters.

[Robespiere]

Read your first line---enough thanks---1 word tablets for schools.

So I am a stooge, and contradict myself.

Better than being in denial re the Shins dy---nasty.

I favour giving the PM a chance----keep smiling try not to insult posters.

1. So no views on the microphones and unexplained sibling wealth? It appears you only care about Shinawatra corruption but aren't too fussed about yellow corruption - hardly a solid foundation on which to enter a discussion.

2. Tablets for schools is 3 words

3. Yes

4. Wouldn't know as I'm yet to experience either option on offer here so I'll submit to your expertise on the subject matter.

5. Shouldn't selecting a PM be the choice of the Thai people - not you or the military establishment?

6. Stooge - a subordinate used by another to do unpleasant routine work. Not really much of an insult as a statement of fact.

[ginjag]

Read your first line---enough thanks---1 word tablets for schools.

So I am a stooge, and contradict myself.

Better than being in denial re the Shins dy---nasty.

I favour giving the PM a chance----keep smiling try not to insult posters.

1. So no views on the microphones and unexplained sibling wealth? It appears you only care about Shinawatra corruption but aren't too fussed about yellow corruption - hardly a solid foundation on which to enter a discussion.

2. Tablets for schools is 3 words

3. Yes

4. Wouldn't know as I'm yet to experience either option on offer here so I'll submit to your experienced expertise.

5. Shouldn't choosing a PM be the choice of the Thai people - not you or the military establishment?

6. Stooge - a subordinate used by another to do unpleasant routine work. Not really much of an insult as a statement of fact.

If you understand English 1 word does not necessarily mean 1. Same as can I have a word ___get it ??

Proved Thai people have to have reform to put them on the right track---look what happened the last time.

Microphones--sibling wealth-----do you refer to Thaksins maid--driver--valet-- better not go down that road. If this PM is proved to be wrong he will have to pay for that like not running off and facing his crimes.

[Robespiere]

Read your first line---enough thanks---1 word tablets for schools.

So I am a stooge, and contradict myself.

Better than being in denial re the Shins dy---nasty.

I favour giving the PM a chance----keep smiling try not to insult posters.

1. So no views on the microphones and unexplained sibling wealth? It appears you only care about Shinawatra corruption but aren't too fussed about yellow corruption - hardly a solid foundation on which to enter a discussion.

2. Tablets for schools is 3 words

3. Yes

4. Wouldn't know as I'm yet to experience either option on offer here so I'll submit to your experienced expertise.

5. Shouldn't choosing a PM be the choice of the Thai people - not you or the military establishment?

6. Stooge - a subordinate used by another to do unpleasant routine work. Not really much of an insult as a statement of fact.

If you understand English 1 word does not necessarily mean 1. Same as can I have a word ___get it ??

Proved Thai people have to have reform to put them on the right track---look what happened the last time.

Microphones--sibling wealth-----do you refer to Thaksins maid--driver--valet-- better not go down that road. If this PM is proved to be wrong he will have to pay for that like not running off and facing his crimes.

1. No, you're wrong in your understanding of English.

2. Last time the Thai people voted and elected a government of their choosing. They don't have to reform, they play by the rules - it is the military that has to reform!

3. Third time you've avoided giving your opinion on the microphones and Prayuth's brothers fortune.

[ginjag]

Read your first line---enough thanks---1 word tablets for schools.

So I am a stooge, and contradict myself.

Better than being in denial re the Shins dy---nasty.

I favour giving the PM a chance----keep smiling try not to insult posters.

1. So no views on the microphones and unexplained sibling wealth? It appears you only care about Shinawatra corruption but aren't too fussed about yellow corruption - hardly a solid foundation on which to enter a discussion.

2. Tablets for schools is 3 words

3. Yes

4. Wouldn't know as I'm yet to experience either option on offer here so I'll submit to your experienced expertise.

5. Shouldn't choosing a PM be the choice of the Thai people - not you or the military establishment?

6. Stooge - a subordinate used by another to do unpleasant routine work. Not really much of an insult as a statement of fact.

If you understand English 1 word does not necessarily mean 1. Same as can I have a word ___get it ??

Proved Thai people have to have reform to put them on the right track---look what happened the last time.

Microphones--sibling wealth-----do you refer to Thaksins maid--driver--valet-- better not go down that road. If this PM is proved to be wrong he will have to pay for that like not running off and facing his crimes.

1. No, you're wrong in your understanding of English.

2. Last time the Thai people voted and elected a government of their choosing. They don't have to reform, they play by the rules - it is the military that has to reform!

3. Third time you've avoided giving your opinion on the microphones and Prayuth's brothers fortune.

Sorry mate, as a football referee one would say to a player "may I have a word" do not tell me this is a wrong English term. stop being petty.

No according to my recent reckoning after the PTP era they have to have reform WHOEVER does it.

I do not have to get drawn into these silly wealth and nit picking items-as there have been a million in the last 10 years say. So what is your point talking about the odd ones.

If you want to go down that road lets then talk about the last government-----But I do not want to do that, everyone now are aware of the happenings.

Go and have a coffee and settle down, observe for a few weeks then come back with your fistful of wrongs then---good idea. Now all the other stuff has been discussed a million times. Post me if you find something that is way out of order, not little bits of tittle tattle..

THE TOPIC IS TRANSPORTATION---not all this rubbish, get on track-so to speak.

[nong38]

I watched his speech this morning and if the translation was acurate, the report in the Nation was not. Some things were to be completed by 2018 and some strated in 2017.

For Thailand to be thinking ahead is a great step forward and I give Prayut credit for that, now we have to hope that the people he puts in charge have the same thought and will to succeed as him. Much of what he is planning will need to fulfilled by the next Govt after the election, I hope that they will carry put the infrastructure plans that Prayut has outlined, new railways at standard guage, dual tracking of the existing system, more underground lines in Bangkok, possibility of a tram network in Bangkok. Then there are the turnk roads of the country, more and better, he does seem to understand what is required, STANDARDS need to be improved a lot.

This transport sector is an enormous challenge, let alone all the other things he needs to attend to, if he cane st things in motion ans they are completed as required it will be a job well done, one that we will benefit from as well as the Thais, I wish him all the best and hope he is successful.

[tbthailand]

It is becoming increasingly clear that the only difference to having Prayuth or Thaksin in power is that one needs martial law and the other doesn't.

Other than that, the policies are all the same.

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

did you not recently mention being in Thailand for over 30 years?

If that is true, then, while I understand slamming Thaksin for being corrupt, what I don't understand are the statements supporting the generals as being the right group to clean up corruption in Thailand. You, who should have experienced personally during 30+ years in Thailand's history the military's amazing corruption and complete inability to 'clean-up' Thailand. It's never been on their radar.

Thaksin, is one person among many people who are corrupt in Thailand. The army is an entire organization with 7+ decades history of corruption.

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt, You do not trust The PM. I do not trust The Shins. simple isn't it.

The shins were thrown out, shot themselves in the foot.

Let the PM have the same time in office and see what happens. If he shoots himself in the foot then we start the ball all over again. On record like the Shins we do not stand much chance, but there is a chance and hope the Army can learn from the past. No guarantees. 1 last hope.

hmmm, let me start with...

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt,

'cause this was my point. The military is the most corrupt and long-lived institution in Thailand since 1932. They have been at this corruption thing since before Thaksin was a twinkle in his mom and dad's eye....

So, no, I don't trust this 'PM'. But it goes beyond that. Democracy for all of it's warts is better than the alternative. I hold a grudge against the 'PM' for f***ing up my family's country.

Then there is this...

I never trusted Thaksin, but I preferred to see the country follow the 97 constitution and vote him out. The anti-democratice royalists + generals don't understand democracy, but they do understand power-grabs. The coups in 2006, 2008, and 2014 were all desperate acts by the elite who just don't give a sh*t about the average Thai and really, really, really, don't like democracy. They feel privileged and have a major anti-democracy corn-cob up their uber-rich, privileged behinds. I find that disgusting.

And maybe just a thought about...

"Let the 'PM' have the same time in office and see what happens'? Sorry, but you really mean to test which is more effective - democracy or a military, unelected, can't-use-the-D-word 'government' - ?? What then, is that how you chose whether you prefer a democracy or a can't-use-the-d-word-ship??? I'm sorry, but I really think that is crazy.

[englishoak]

Transport plans will NOT hit the deadline and be 100% completed..... not a chance

[yellowboat]

Two years is a short time for a serious rail project. There are long lead times on all the necessary equipment.

What is interesting is the Kunming–Bangkok Expressway . Kunming is planned to be the gateway of Chinese investment to SE Asia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunming%E2%80%93Bangkok_Expressway The bridge from Loa to Thailand was done a couple of months ago.

This project looks to bring a lot of trade.

[Ricardo]

Besides that, double rail tracks with standard gauge will be constructed on three routes and they will be connected to industrial estates and Thailand’s neighbours of Cambodia and Laos, said Gen Prayut.

The first rail route starts from Bangkok – Nakhon Ratchasima – Map Ta Phut, while the second one runs from Bangkok to Rayong and the third one runs from Nakhon Ratchasima to Nong Khai.

On the development of Laem Chabang deep seaport, Gen Prayut said his interim government aims to make it a ‘hub of goods transportation via railway’ upon completion in 2017.

From this it would appear that the medium-speed standard-gauge freight-line from Chiang-Khong to Laem-Chabang has been dropped again, but since I don't honestly believe any of these plans will actually be carried through to completion, going by past experience, so what ?

However the earlier principle, of linking Nong Khai & Chiang-Khong to Laem-Chabang for faster-movement of containerised-freight to the ports, did seem to make sense.

And might even have helped move Thai exports northwards to China.

Actions will speak louder than words, or the seemingly-endless tweaking of plans. This must be frustrating for construction-firms, not to say expensive, hoping for potential contracts.

'And might even have helped move Thai exports nothwards to China': don't you think the 'new Thai-Chinese elite''s prime financial interest is more in the imports from China to Thailand...? And nothing about connecting Thaksin's (and befriended Myanmar dictator's) brainchild Dawei, just forgotten, honest mistake?

Agreed, there's a serious risk that Chinese imports would flood into Thailand, and damage local-manufacturing/jobs, there are always risks as well as opportunities.

There was that Chinese business-showcase development proposed a few years back, basically a shop-window in Bangkok, for Chinese-imports.

Thailand probably assumes that they can keep Chinese imports from leaking into the local economy, fat chance, in the long run !

But moving Chinese-exports direct to Laem-Chabang, adding volume to what's already one of the world's bigger container-ports, would be a plus. And two direct rail-routes doing this, would have been better than just one, wouldn't it.

[ginjag]

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

did you not recently mention being in Thailand for over 30 years?

If that is true, then, while I understand slamming Thaksin for being corrupt, what I don't understand are the statements supporting the generals as being the right group to clean up corruption in Thailand. You, who should have experienced personally during 30+ years in Thailand's history the military's amazing corruption and complete inability to 'clean-up' Thailand. It's never been on their radar.

Thaksin, is one person among many people who are corrupt in Thailand. The army is an entire organization with 7+ decades history of corruption.

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt, You do not trust The PM. I do not trust The Shins. simple isn't it.

The shins were thrown out, shot themselves in the foot.

Let the PM have the same time in office and see what happens. If he shoots himself in the foot then we start the ball all over again. On record like the Shins we do not stand much chance, but there is a chance and hope the Army can learn from the past. No guarantees. 1 last hope.

hmmm, let me start with...

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt,

'cause this was my point. The military is the most corrupt and long-lived institution in Thailand since 1932. They have been at this corruption thing since before Thaksin was a twinkle in his mom and dad's eye....

So, no, I don't trust this 'PM'. But it goes beyond that. Democracy for all of it's warts is better than the alternative. I hold a grudge against the 'PM' for f***ing up my family's country.

Then there is this...

I never trusted Thaksin, but I preferred to see the country follow the 97 constitution and vote him out. The anti-democratice royalists + generals don't understand democracy, but they do understand power-grabs. The coups in 2006, 2008, and 2014 were all desperate acts by the elite who just don't give a sh*t about the average Thai and really, really, really, don't like democracy. They feel privileged and have a major anti-democracy corn-cob up their uber-rich, privileged behinds. I find that disgusting.

And maybe just a thought about...

"Let the 'PM' have the same time in office and see what happens'? Sorry, but you really mean to test which is more effective - democracy or a military, unelected, can't-use-the-D-word 'government' - ?? What then, is that how you chose whether you prefer a democracy or a can't-use-the-d-word-ship??? I'm sorry, but I really think that is crazy.

Transportation is the topic, or lack of it or modernization of it---NOT Quote "since 1932" rubbish. Democracy again ??? what do you know about Thai democracy---PTP ?? get on topic---infrastructure not the Kelly's armhole about The ex government or the exploits of old coups.

[ginjag]

Transport plans will NOT hit the deadline and be 100% completed..... not a chance

What doe's here---ending corruption---scams--double pricing--democracy---Only we have to try.

[heybruce]

Transport plans will NOT hit the deadline and be 100% completed..... not a chance

I don't know, spend enough money, cut enough corners...

They finished a submarine base before they had submarines, maybe they'll do something similar with railroads.

[tbthailand]

did you not recently mention being in Thailand for over 30 years?

If that is true, then, while I understand slamming Thaksin for being corrupt, what I don't understand are the statements supporting the generals as being the right group to clean up corruption in Thailand. You, who should have experienced personally during 30+ years in Thailand's history the military's amazing corruption and complete inability to 'clean-up' Thailand. It's never been on their radar.

Thaksin, is one person among many people who are corrupt in Thailand. The army is an entire organization with 7+ decades history of corruption.

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt, You do not trust The PM. I do not trust The Shins. simple isn't it.

The shins were thrown out, shot themselves in the foot.

Let the PM have the same time in office and see what happens. If he shoots himself in the foot then we start the ball all over again. On record like the Shins we do not stand much chance, but there is a chance and hope the Army can learn from the past. No guarantees. 1 last hope.

hmmm, let me start with...

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt,

'cause this was my point. The military is the most corrupt and long-lived institution in Thailand since 1932. They have been at this corruption thing since before Thaksin was a twinkle in his mom and dad's eye....

So, no, I don't trust this 'PM'. But it goes beyond that. Democracy for all of it's warts is better than the alternative. I hold a grudge against the 'PM' for f***ing up my family's country.

Then there is this...

I never trusted Thaksin, but I preferred to see the country follow the 97 constitution and vote him out. The anti-democratice royalists + generals don't understand democracy, but they do understand power-grabs. The coups in 2006, 2008, and 2014 were all desperate acts by the elite who just don't give a sh*t about the average Thai and really, really, really, don't like democracy. They feel privileged and have a major anti-democracy corn-cob up their uber-rich, privileged behinds. I find that disgusting.

And maybe just a thought about...

"Let the 'PM' have the same time in office and see what happens'? Sorry, but you really mean to test which is more effective - democracy or a military, unelected, can't-use-the-D-word 'government' - ?? What then, is that how you chose whether you prefer a democracy or a can't-use-the-d-word-ship??? I'm sorry, but I really think that is crazy.

Transportation is the topic, or lack of it or modernization of it---NOT Quote "since 1932" rubbish. Democracy again ??? what do you know about Thai democracy---PTP ?? get on topic---infrastructure not the Kelly's armhole about The ex government or the exploits of old coups.

get on topic?

you might read back a bit and see where this one went off the rails... someone started off with this li'l gem

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

[ExPratt]

Not a hope of 2018 , 903 linear is 1800 km of track. If they build it on and adjacent to the existing alignment it is cheaper but not quicker to build. The civil works will drive the project

[trainman34014]

Just more bullshit from dreamers who love to thump their own chests. By the time the largest amount of money has been skimmed off these projects they will all be running ten years behind....that is if some or any of them ever get started !

[ginjag]

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt, You do not trust The PM. I do not trust The Shins. simple isn't it.

The shins were thrown out, shot themselves in the foot.

Let the PM have the same time in office and see what happens. If he shoots himself in the foot then we start the ball all over again. On record like the Shins we do not stand much chance, but there is a chance and hope the Army can learn from the past. No guarantees. 1 last hope.

hmmm, let me start with...

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt,

'cause this was my point. The military is the most corrupt and long-lived institution in Thailand since 1932. They have been at this corruption thing since before Thaksin was a twinkle in his mom and dad's eye....

So, no, I don't trust this 'PM'. But it goes beyond that. Democracy for all of it's warts is better than the alternative. I hold a grudge against the 'PM' for f***ing up my family's country.

Then there is this...

I never trusted Thaksin, but I preferred to see the country follow the 97 constitution and vote him out. The anti-democratice royalists + generals don't understand democracy, but they do understand power-grabs. The coups in 2006, 2008, and 2014 were all desperate acts by the elite who just don't give a sh*t about the average Thai and really, really, really, don't like democracy. They feel privileged and have a major anti-democracy corn-cob up their uber-rich, privileged behinds. I find that disgusting.

And maybe just a thought about...

"Let the 'PM' have the same time in office and see what happens'? Sorry, but you really mean to test which is more effective - democracy or a military, unelected, can't-use-the-D-word 'government' - ?? What then, is that how you chose whether you prefer a democracy or a can't-use-the-d-word-ship??? I'm sorry, but I really think that is crazy.

Transportation is the topic, or lack of it or modernization of it---NOT Quote "since 1932" rubbish. Democracy again ??? what do you know about Thai democracy---PTP ?? get on topic---infrastructure not the Kelly's armhole about The ex government or the exploits of old coups.

get on topic?

you might read back a bit and see where this one went off the rails... someone started off with this li'l gem

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

If you wish to tell the truth, the above speaks for it's self. YOU CAN SEE they are replies not an off topic post.

So laugh this one off, you got no brownie points for your answer. lost face more like it.

[englishoak]

Transport plans will NOT hit the deadline and be 100% completed..... not a chance

What doe's here---ending corruption---scams--double pricing--democracy---Only we have to try.

Well thats true, but scams corruption double pricing etc dont have budgets or contracts for completion. You cant use the "well lets try" line with transportation projects, we are talking hard numbers, maths, engineering for bridges, resources and contracts with real people real jobs and real economic input, its not theory like social issues

An infrastructure project isnt crime or cultural, you have a plan, decide a budget ( double it in extras at least ) and complete in a time frame

Lets be honest, the headline is a little silly, the PM is even more silly for making the claim if he did.... everyone here knows what government deadlines are like not only here but most countries.

Either its done on time, in budget or its failed, you cant use the word try on this topic, sorry gin.

[tbthailand]

The important thing isn't the deadline, the important thing is that they kick off this project fast while one of the 'PM's best buddies from the 'NCPO' is ministry of the interior.

[tbthailand]

hmmm, let me start with...

I happen to slam any thing that is found to be corrupt,

'cause this was my point. The military is the most corrupt and long-lived institution in Thailand since 1932. They have been at this corruption thing since before Thaksin was a twinkle in his mom and dad's eye....

So, no, I don't trust this 'PM'. But it goes beyond that. Democracy for all of it's warts is better than the alternative. I hold a grudge against the 'PM' for f***ing up my family's country.

Then there is this...

I never trusted Thaksin, but I preferred to see the country follow the 97 constitution and vote him out. The anti-democratice royalists + generals don't understand democracy, but they do understand power-grabs. The coups in 2006, 2008, and 2014 were all desperate acts by the elite who just don't give a sh*t about the average Thai and really, really, really, don't like democracy. They feel privileged and have a major anti-democracy corn-cob up their uber-rich, privileged behinds. I find that disgusting.

And maybe just a thought about...

"Let the 'PM' have the same time in office and see what happens'? Sorry, but you really mean to test which is more effective - democracy or a military, unelected, can't-use-the-D-word 'government' - ?? What then, is that how you chose whether you prefer a democracy or a can't-use-the-d-word-ship??? I'm sorry, but I really think that is crazy.

Transportation is the topic, or lack of it or modernization of it---NOT Quote "since 1932" rubbish. Democracy again ??? what do you know about Thai democracy---PTP ?? get on topic---infrastructure not the Kelly's armhole about The ex government or the exploits of old coups.

get on topic?

you might read back a bit and see where this one went off the rails... someone started off with this li'l gem

One is the army---the other one had his own red army----and his own police force and look how efficient they were/are. The most corrupt agency/franchise in Thailand.

What polices did Thaksin have (PTP) they all failed so the PM has nothing to lose.

If you wish to tell the truth, the above speaks for it's self. YOU CAN SEE they are replies not an off topic post.

So laugh this one off, you got no brownie points for your answer. lost face more like it.

you might have to look back at the actual posts, since the history has long been cut off in the 'quote' and you seem to have no memory of going OT yourself

But yeah, is was you who went off on the 'thaksin/corrupt/bad" tangent. have a good night.