Koh Tao murders: Parents of alleged killers take the case to Attorney General

[webfact]

KOH TAO MURDERS
Parents of alleged killers take the case to Attorney General

BANGKOK: -- The parents of the two Myanmar nationals detained for allegedly murdering two British tourists on Koh Tao last month on Tuesday submitted a petition to Office of the Attorney General, insisting that their sons had no part with the killings.

Deputy spokesman Kosonwat Inthujanyong received he petition and talked to the parents.

The father of one of the suspects said that he visited and talked to his son and was very unhappy because both strongly denied any involvement with the case. They also claimed that they were assaulted during interrogation and made to confess.

The parents then left the Attorney General office to hand over the petition to National Human Rights Commission.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Parents-of-alleged-killers-take-the-case-to-Attorn-30246407.html


-- The Nation 2014-10-28

[kurnell]

Good luck. All but a few lofty Thai officials and a psychopath or 2 are with you.

[webfact]

Myanmar parents seek justices for sons from attorney-general



BANGKOK: -- Parents of the two Myanmar migrant workers today sought justices for their sons accused in the double murder of two British backpackers in Koh Tao on September 15.

Tun Tun Htike and his wife Zaw Aye Maung, the parents of Win Zaw Htun, and Phu Shwe Nu and Thien Shwe Aug, the mother and uncle of Zaw Lin, were accompanied by their lawyer and Myanmar embassy staff in submitting their petition to the Office of the Attorney-General via its spokesman Kosolnawat Intachanyong in Bangkok Tuesday morning.

They said in the petition that they have visited their sons in Samui provincial prison and were assured by both that they did not kill the tourists, but were forced to confess because they were beaten by the police.

As they feared their lives would be in danger, they had to confess, the patents said in the petition.

They said they trusted in the justice system of Thailand that could ensure fair treatment of the case and also called for the revision of the case file.

They later went to petition the National Human Rights Commission for their sons.

Earlier Tun Tun Htike gave shocking details of the meeting with his son in an exclusive interview with a Burmese website, DVB.

“The interrogators told them to confess to the crime, and threatened to cut off their limbs, put them in a bag and dump them in a river if they did not,” DVB quoted him as saying.

“The police also threatened to tie the two boys to a tyre, pour petrol on it, and set it alight,” the father said. “My son said they were terrified and confessed. But now that we [their parents and Myanmar officials] are present, they can speak the truth — that they did not commit the murder.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/myanmar-parents-seek-justices-sons-attorney-general/


-- Thai PBS 2014-10-28

[Paulzed]

“The interrogators told them to confess to the crime, and threatened to cut off their limbs, put them in a bag and dump them in a river if they did not,” DVB quoted him as saying.

“The police also threatened to tie the two boys to a tyre, pour petrol on it, and set it alight,”

Sounds like they would have had a better chance at the Spanish inquisition in 1478 AD.

Edited October 28, 2014 by Paulzed

[Mr Yim]

I can only imagine how this is being reported in Myanmar.

[smokie36]

I'm more willing to believe this than that they committed murder.

[Manbing]

I suggest they are too late to start playing top trumps. The time to act was before the publicity.

[Commerce]

"They said in the petition that they have visited their sons in Samui provincial prison and were assured by both that they did not kill the tourists, but were forced to confess because they were beaten by the police.

As they feared their lives would be in danger, they had to confess, the patents said in the petition.

They later went to petition the National Human Rights Commission for their sons.

Earlier Tun Tun Htike gave shocking details of the meeting with his son in an exclusive interview with a Burmese website, DVB.

“The interrogators told them to confess to the crime, and threatened to cut off their limbs, put them in a bag and dump them in a river if they did not,” DVB quoted him as saying.

“The police also threatened to tie the two boys to a tyre, pour petrol on it, and set it alight,” the father said. “My son said they were terrified and confessed. But now that we [their parents and Myanmar officials] are present, they can speak the truth — that they did not commit the murder."

And in the midst of all that, they said;

"They they trusted in the justice system of Thailand that could ensure fair treatment of the case and also called for the revision of the case file."

.....

The boys at the top don't care.... they are Burmese... scum of the earth to Thais, and the boys at the top are all interlinked with the BIB anyway. There will never be a Thai fall for this horrific murder - Thais could not possibly do this!

[jaltsc]

"The parents then left the Attorney General office to hand over the petition to National Human Rights Commission."

Unfortunately for them, Thainess restricts the term "human" to a select population on this planet. Being Burmese falls way outside those parameters, and even though you might be right, you will be treated as wrong.

Edited October 28, 2014 by jaltsc

[marcusd]

"The parents then left the Attorney General office to hand over the petition to National Human Rights Commission."

Unfortunately for them, Thainess restricts the term "human" to a select population on this planet. Being Burmese falls way outside those parameters, and even though you might be right, you will be treated as wrong.

You know, it would be really nice if the Burmese Government reciprocated to Thailand in the same way Thailand treats Burmese.

TURN OFF THE GAS and see how nice Thailand soon becomes

[JOC]

Their mothers say, they didn't do it!!

Eureka!! Then they must be innocent!!

The parents would be much more credible, if they didn't allow themselves to be part of all this staged nonsense!!

[smokie36]

"The parents then left the Attorney General office to hand over the petition to National Human Rights Commission."

Unfortunately for them, Thainess restricts the term "human" to a select population on this planet. Being Burmese falls way outside those parameters, and even though you might be right, you will be treated as wrong.

Whenever I have at the NHRC mentioned the word "oxymoron" pops into my head sadly.

I wouldn't put any trust in this organisation whatsoever.

Wolves in charge of the sheep pen.

[ChrisY1]

"They said in the petition that they have visited their sons in Samui provincial prison and were assured by both that they did not kill the tourists, but were forced to confess because they were beaten by the police.

As they feared their lives would be in danger, they had to confess, the patents said in the petition.

They later went to petition the National Human Rights Commission for their sons.

Earlier Tun Tun Htike gave shocking details of the meeting with his son in an exclusive interview with a Burmese website, DVB.

“The interrogators told them to confess to the crime, and threatened to cut off their limbs, put them in a bag and dump them in a river if they did not,” DVB quoted him as saying.

“The police also threatened to tie the two boys to a tyre, pour petrol on it, and set it alight,” the father said. “My son said they were terrified and confessed. But now that we [their parents and Myanmar officials] are present, they can speak the truth — that they did not commit the murder."

And in the midst of all that, they said;

"They they trusted in the justice system of Thailand that could ensure fair treatment of the case and also called for the revision of the case file."

.....

The boys at the top don't care.... they are Burmese... scum of the earth to Thais, and the boys at the top are all interlinked with the BIB anyway. There will never be a Thai fall for this horrific murder - Thais could not possibly do this!

I really hope you're proved wrong in this case....

The only thing that may save these 2 boys, if they innocent, is the volume of international condemnation of the RTP......however.....you're right in mentioning that the top boys don't care.

[darrendsd]

Their mothers say, they didn't do it!!

Eureka!! Then they must be innocent!!

The parents would be much more credible, if they didn't allow themselves to be part of all this staged nonsense!!

What do you expect them to do? Just sit quietly and do nothing? If they truly believe their sons are innocent then they have every right to kick up a fuss

Again what do you expect them to do? What would you do if it were your sons and you thought they were innocent?

[Briggsy]

Burmese judicial system and police force is as corrupt as the Thai one. Burmese press and readers will be surprised by nothing here.

The only difference is the bottom of the heap in Thailand is Burmese, the bottom of the heap in Burma is Mon, Karen, Rohingya and other non-Burmese and non-Chinese ethnic minorities. Senior Burmese officials, military, police and politicians will identify and empathise much more closely with their Thai equivalents than with their compatriot peasants.

[bkkgooner]

The pressure continues to build

[webfact]

Parents of Myanmar murder suspects petition attorney general
By Digital Content



BANGKOK, Oct 28 -- The parents of two Myanmar men detained for the alleged murder of two British tourists on Ko Tao island of Surat Thani province on September 15 have petitioned the attorney general for justice as they believe in their sons’ innocence.

This morning the parents of Win Zaw Htun and Zaw Lin, suspected of killing Hannah Witheridge, 23, and David Miller, 24, went to the Office of the Attorney General to file their petition.

They arrived with lawyers and representatives of the Myanmar embassy in Bangkok.

Kosolwat Inthuchanyong, deputy spokesman of the Office of the Attorney General, received their complaint.

The father of one suspect said that they visited both Myanmar men and both told them that they had been assaulted and forced to confess.

Later the parents' delegation went to the Office of the National Human Rights Commission to file a similar petition.

Receiving it, human rights commissioner Niran Pitakwatchara said the commission would attempt to verify the claim of the physical assaults.

He also said that the commission would inquire about the case from police again on November 3 as the police had not given a clear answer in their three previous meetings.

The parents visited their sons at Ko Samui prison last Friday.

Tawatchai Siangjaew, executive director of the Region 8 Public Prosecution Office, who handles the case said yesterday that the prosecution was awaiting more information from police before deciding on the case. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-10-28

[JOC]

Their mothers say, they didn't do it!!

Eureka!! Then they must be innocent!!

The parents would be much more credible, if they didn't allow themselves to be part of all this staged nonsense!!

What do you expect them to do? Just sit quietly and do nothing? If they truly believe their sons are innocent then they have every right to kick up a fuss

Again what do you expect them to do? What would you do if it were your sons and you thought they were innocent?

Fair enough!!

Then use the media and social media, it is not like they don't have their attention!!

To take the case to the OAG, who in the end is the office going to prosecute (or not) the guys, is IMO nothing but media-porn!!

[Rykbanlor]

How would the parents be any more credible?

Whatever they say has no bearing on the guilt or the innocence of the sons, and as has been noted before, of course they are going to claim their sons are innocent

Use the media or social media you cry? They are, and handing it on to the attorney general, whether a media stunt or not, seems to be a fairly rational thing for them to do.

How can you urge them to use the media and social media while at the same time lambasting them for it?

[Rykbanlor]

Maybe you should have a go at the parents of the victims as well, and their lame efforts at enaging the UK govt. I mean, jeez, talk about judicial porn.

[loonodingle]

All we hear now is threatened. Not actual torture. I thought they had been actually tortured? ??

[chainarong]

Most parents would say there kids are innocent , not a good move, the lawyers for the Burmese 2 should handle this or the UN Human rights, getting mothers involved just muddies the water that little bit more , a good lawyer would tie the RTP up in knots and spit the investigation in the gutter, the problem is finding a good lawyer, I personally haven't heard of a good Thai lawyer.

[Chris Lawrence]

Two lads from the country of a tyrant governed country in another country now being run by a tyrant and you have a plastic bag over your head? Believing that your disappearance means nothing and the only thing to save you is a signature on a piece of paper? You sign and everything stops. Relief?

The other side has to ensure that they are seen by the greater world as a safe destination to come and party, spend loads of money? To ensure this you need a conviction, any conviction that will stick? Easy prey that won't talk back because they are conditioned not to talk back?

Could have happened?

So have things changed enough for this not to have happened this way? This is what is now on show as, Thailand is being watched by many in the media and on social networks.

[darrendsd]

Their mothers say, they didn't do it!!

Eureka!! Then they must be innocent!!

The parents would be much more credible, if they didn't allow themselves to be part of all this staged nonsense!!

What do you expect them to do? Just sit quietly and do nothing? If they truly believe their sons are innocent then they have every right to kick up a fuss

Again what do you expect them to do? What would you do if it were your sons and you thought they were innocent?

Fair enough!!

Then use the media and social media, it is not like they don't have their attention!!

To take the case to the OAG, who in the end is the office going to prosecute (or not) the guys, is IMO nothing but media-porn!!

By taking their case to the Thai authority's they ARE using the media

Media porn? No and why not if they think they are innocent

[waynethor]

Their mothers say, they didn't do it!!

Eureka!! Then they must be innocent!!

The parents would be much more credible, if they didn't allow themselves to be part of all this staged nonsense!!

The parents of these two young men are fighting for their children's lives and you call it "staged nonsense" ?!?!?!?

What an idiotic thing to say!

I can only hope for your sake that in your obviously privileged little life something happens to wake you up to give you some compassion and an open mind.

Edited October 28, 2014 by waynethor

[catweazle]

Their mothers say, they didn't do it!!

Eureka!! Then they must be innocent!!

The parents would be much more credible, if they didn't allow themselves to be part of all this staged nonsense!!

What a pathetic, empathy-deprived low life you must be to write something like that. Shame on you!

[abitmiffed]

Tell you what, i really see this 1 getting thrown out due to LACK of evidence... this is the 2nd time the plods have been told to make the case stronger. there is still hope yet not just for the Burmese boys but also to reopen a real investigation and get the right <deleted> this time.

With the DNA evidence "being so strong" as they claim why would their case need tightening up for a 2nd time?? they had no idea there would be so much pressure from around the world and sweeping it under the carpet as per usual wont work this time, they are really going through alot of underwear changes.

I really think there is soooo much pressure on the RTP and Mr Gen right now and backlash coming everyday that the whole thing is about to implode.

[MikePhuket1970]

From the last 25 years being in Thailand i often

saw the strange admiring from thai people

of admiring the crooked cross of nazi germany.

When is see how the thais treating and thinking about

burmese,laotion and cambodian people

i well understand now....

[templedog]

Their mothers say, they didn't do it!!

Eureka!! Then they must be innocent!!

The parents would be much more credible, if they didn't allow themselves to be part of all this staged nonsense!!

"Staged nonsense"?????

Which staged nonsense, the one being performed by the RTP.....for sure, right?

And, what else are they supposed to do.....go home, have a few teas and forget it ever happened?

You are extremely insensitive. But, you might not know it.

Anyway, you're in good company with 'head in the sand', JDIA....now he is Master Troll here, second only to JTJ.

You guys are doing a pathetic job of trying to convince everyone that these Burmese boys did it.

About as pathetic as the RTP. You guys are soulless.

Edited October 28, 2014 by templedog

[thesetat2013]

Tell you what, i really see this 1 getting thrown out due to LACK of evidence... this is the 2nd time the plods have been told to make the case stronger. there is still hope yet not just for the Burmese boys but also to reopen a real investigation and get the right <deleted> this time.

With the DNA evidence "being so strong" as they claim why would their case need tightening up for a 2nd time?? they had no idea there would be so much pressure from around the world and sweeping it under the carpet as per usual wont work this time, they are really going through alot of underwear changes.

I really think there is soooo much pressure on the RTP and Mr Gen right now and backlash coming everyday that the whole thing is about to implode.

Although you are correct in saying the case has been thrown back to the RTP for the 2nd time you have to remember also that the RTP are telling the UK BIBs that the case is in the courts hands now which is why they can not participate in any investigation. Investigating is over. Also you all should consider that the RTP did refuse to talk with the UNHRC and now have a deadline next week to meet with them to explain their charge of abusing and torturing those men.

If this was my son and I truly believed he was innocent I would be in every newspaper, and every social media every day screaming for justice and screaming to the world their innocence and begging everyone and their mother for help. So would any loving parent who truly believed their child..

It's a pity so many of the posters here ridicule the parents actions. Sure they love their kids. But even if I loved my kids and he did something SO horrible as those murders I would not be screaming to for his innocence.