AnotherOneAmerican Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Don't go to places where you wouldn't like your photo taken. How easy is that? Didn't the OP say they just slam their cameras in villagers faces? I've seen people photographing women bathing in their saris in India <deleted>. And you ever heard of Street Photography? How do you suggest we avoid those? Stay off the streets? Yes, I get bloody annoyed when I'm included in a 'family group' photo. However, if they come and ask permission I've no problem with that. What you do in the street, is in public domain, and therefore fair game for photographers of any sort. I really don't see what your problem is? Unless you are some sort of criminal on the run. As for the OP, his post seemed to be about photos taken of him in (naughty?) bars. Which was the target for my original reply. Edited October 30, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousehound Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Some of the greatest images of all time have been street photography. I have absolutely no problem with it, and in fact prefer someone doing a good job than all these happy snappy Facebook stuff. The world would be a poorer place if you can't take a picture of a public place. A good photographer would never be "in someone's face". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 OP, yes you are a silly old critta, as you put it. 3 guys are filming with a pro level video cam , almost certainly for a news/doco about the redlight district of BKk (again) and instead of just turning away you give them some nice clear footage of your face ! Hopefully for you nobody will watch the resulting footage, where you will be labelled as an indignant sex tourist, because people have seen it all before many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblecat Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So I ask, what is the difference between having ones photos taken out in public and having photos uploaded to facebook and other social networking sites in the public domain? There's a huge difference. If I post a photo on Facebook, you wouldn't be able to see it. Same if I post a photo on Line. Unless if I give you permission in my privacy settings, you don't get to see my content- it's not public. Which is completely different from a stranger taking your photo. There's no choice in that, and no control over who uses the image or where it is posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namdocmai Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I also hate it and sure won't look into their camera. Thai weddings are also terrible, sometimes they rent professional filmcrews and also family members with a big camera see this as a chance to show off. I have counted more then 15 people taking pics or filming on weddings where i was the only farang and guess who they all want to have in their view? Yup me because it looks so good to have pics of the farang on the party. I also don't like it when i see farang with a huge camera around their neck taking pics of everything on a market. They don't buy anything at all and think the whole world turns around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richusa Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 My hobby is photography, I carry my camera everywhere, taking photo's of everything. In a bar, I would not walk in and start snapping away........ Open bars are a different story. If somebody gets upset.....@!$$$@% them. They should stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I also hate it and sure won't look into their camera. Thai weddings are also terrible, sometimes they rent professional filmcrews and also family members with a big camera see this as a chance to show off. I have counted more then 15 people taking pics or filming on weddings where i was the only farang and guess who they all want to have in their view? Yup me because it looks so good to have pics of the farang on the party. I also don't like it when i see farang with a huge camera around their neck taking pics of everything on a market. They don't buy anything at all and think the whole world turns around them. Another happy soul here in the land of smiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richusa Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I also hate it and sure won't look into their camera. Thai weddings are also terrible, sometimes they rent professional filmcrews and also family members with a big camera see this as a chance to show off. I have counted more then 15 people taking pics or filming on weddings where i was the only farang and guess who they all want to have in their view? Yup me because it looks so good to have pics of the farang on the party. I also don't like it when i see farang with a huge camera around their neck taking pics of everything on a market. They don't buy anything at all and think the whole world turns around them. I don't think the camera is around their neck, if it's a huge camera....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If they are blatantly filming you and didn't ask first then fair enough. But if you just didn't like what they were doing the you are the grumpy git who always shows up like a bad penny to complain about anything. Your call !. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 My hobby is photography, I carry my camera everywhere, taking photo's of everything. In a bar, I would not walk in and start snapping away........ Open bars are a different story. If somebody gets upset.....@!$$$@% them. They should stay home. Are you about to have a haircut with the basin on your head nice self photo of your handsom self 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It's the camera that you don't see I am concerned about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimate weapon Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 OP whines and whines. Waaaaaaa they are filming me waaaaaaaa they are filming me. Meanwhile in the west people are getting filmed but nobody posts that on their forum like reddit or the misc least they get ridiculed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 OP, It's funny, the big lense, long and bulky is probably a zoom lense. The guy is probably taking a photo of a particular thing, as opposed to a whole screen. Everyone jumps up and down, ducks and dives to get out of the way but they're not even in the frame. Enter the small short lense on the same camera, all of a sudden everyone pays little or no attention and NOW they're all in the frame, which can be cropped down later to zoom on someone in particular. RAW format. Can zoom and crop it about 6 times and still have a quality shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedghog Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I am a fan of up skirt. I am not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If you are in public - and that is a broad definition -- from bars to malls to the street corner -- If you do not like to be photographed - don't go in public... Oh and the governments around the world are doing it BIG TIME -- but you most times do not realize it. Public Domain ... managements of public places like supermarkets can tell photographers to stop - go out ... but we cannot ... It is the way life is -- and not much you can do about it. If I were taking photos on the beach walk out towards the street or to the beach in Ao Nang - as I often do and get spectacular shots --- and someone made an objection because they might be in the frame of view - then they can go suck eggs ... I can and will take photos in public... This sort of thing has been going on since the camera was invented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asheron Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 General comments (not to richusa below): If you are out in the public you can't possibly expect any kind of privacy. If you see someone taking pictures/video the best thing to do is just turn your back to them and not engage them. Reason is simple... no one watch boring videos of a guys back on Youtube. They (videos) do however go viral when the guy starts to behave like a dumbass because he is filmed. My hobby is photography, I carry my camera everywhere, taking photo's of everything. In a bar, I would not walk in and start snapping away........ Open bars are a different story. If somebody gets upset.....@!$$$@% them. They should stay home. Well, if you are actually standing inside the private property (open bar) you can expect to be told to either stop taking pictures or leave the property. Now, if you are standing on a public road and taking pictures of the open bar... yeah... ¤!"#!! them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 General comments (not to richusa below): If you are out in the public you can't possibly expect any kind of privacy. If you see someone taking pictures/video the best thing to do is just turn your back to them and not engage them. Reason is simple... no one watch boring videos of a guys back on Youtube. They (videos) do however go viral when the guy starts to behave like a dumbass because he is filmed. My hobby is photography, I carry my camera everywhere, taking photo's of everything. In a bar, I would not walk in and start snapping away........ Open bars are a different story. If somebody gets upset.....@!$$$@% them. They should stay home. Well, if you are actually standing inside the private property (open bar) you can expect to be told to either stop taking pictures or leave the property. Now, if you are standing on a public road and taking pictures of the open bar... yeah... ¤!"#!! them. Being told to stop by management -- not by a patron ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asheron Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 General comments (not to richusa below): If you are out in the public you can't possibly expect any kind of privacy. If you see someone taking pictures/video the best thing to do is just turn your back to them and not engage them. Reason is simple... no one watch boring videos of a guys back on Youtube. They (videos) do however go viral when the guy starts to behave like a dumbass because he is filmed. My hobby is photography, I carry my camera everywhere, taking photo's of everything. In a bar, I would not walk in and start snapping away........ Open bars are a different story. If somebody gets upset.....@!$$$@% them. They should stay home. Well, if you are actually standing inside the private property (open bar) you can expect to be told to either stop taking pictures or leave the property. Now, if you are standing on a public road and taking pictures of the open bar... yeah... ¤!"#!! them. Being told to stop by management -- not by a patron ... Oops, missed to add that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtsabai Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Back in the COINTEL days the fumbling bureau of idiots tried and did (I saw lots of them) to take lots of pictures of me. Most were with me shooting them the finger (they weren't very good at cover), some with me taking their picture which they really, really didn't like. I had lots of pictures taken in Pattaya back in my "2 week millionaire" days, didn't care. I live here with my Thai wife and have for many years. You take my picture today and I don't like it I'll stuff that camera up your behind, without the KY, comprende ese'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcp0761 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I assume the camera crew are Thai nationals - so there in itself is your answer. I've done a lot of international travel to Central & South America, Europe, Asia, and Middle East and it is advised to always first ask permission to take an individual's picture as if not you could loose your head. So what should have been done is some common courtesies and if your not interested give you a moment to clear-out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Perhaps a PI getting evidence for an upcoming case against you? I remember a trike following me to a "girlie bar", then he called my wife, who showed up there and sat next to me. In Thailand/Philippines, you have to realize small money can buy an informant (even right inside the bar you frequent). It does not matter whether it is right or wrong, nor should we be asking if it is rude.....sometimes it is just "business". With all the cellphone cameras sitting around, your personal life can easily be documented for future reference. Of course, the bamboo telegraph (all over asia) is still just as effective as a photo. Nobody is going to stop cellphone addicts from taking photos. Size of camera is irrelevant. I would say, the huge one you saw was a harmless tourist. Nobody would walk around with something like that if they were being covert. Had to ask myself why I still wanted to go to the red light areas, even after I was married. Pretty risky, but most of us are guilty. I just bring my wife with me, nowadays, and let her buy the ladies a drink. Much more fun...and less dangerous. Nobody takes pics of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfaroukh Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Don't do anything to be ashamed if these video or film turn on facebook or youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lissos Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I have noticed that people who seem to possess no respect for other people's privacy and space, get the best people photos. I'm stating the obvious here of course. It is exactly why, although my photos often get praised by others, they are almost exclusively of landscape situations where, if anyone appears them, they are usually part of a landscape. I personally don't like people just snapping photos of me unsolicited (depends on context though) and I extend that courtesy to others because, especially in the case of strangers in a foreign country, it seems like doing is just plain brutal and makes makes them into zoo object curios. I clearly remember one tourist in Siwa (Egypt) carrying an enormous camera with enormous lenses, snapping away like a madman at any being that moved (or didn't move) like a kid in a candy shop, not even introducing himself first but just walking up to people of all ages and clicking away. I bet he got some fantastic photos. I envied him, while simultaneously feeling that this guy was an arrogant fool. I have a friend in Indonesia who seems utterly fearless in this regard and continually gets fantastic people photos because he both loves posing for photos himself and the culture he was raised in appears to absolutely adore being in photos, whoever is taking it, therefore there is no fear, no worry of offending or sense that this is objectifying people. In the world we are in now, it seems impossible to escape. We're having static or moving images of being captured every single days in shops, high streets, fuel stations, airports, waiting rooms, parks, and even children are carrying mobile phones that can take sly photos and video of a quality that in my school days was unimaginable. As I say, such people annoy me but I would envy their people photo collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 If I notice some one trying to take my picture I just flip them the bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elfanne Posted October 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2014 In Canada (and I believe the USA as well) it is illegal to take photos in bars. I was a bartender one summer and had to enforce this rule...under no circumstances, even consensual, can a photo be taken in a bar. And many high-end restaurants ban camera use...including photographing the food on your own plate. France has passed a law banning people from photographing strangers sitting at sidewalk cafes without their permission. If someone uses your image for commercial purposes without your permission you can sue, and, at least in the USA, you will win in if you are clearly recognizable. I would never take a photo in a bar, but I do take photos at museums, temples and historical sites. If any strangers are included in the shot I try to get a back view, or a side shot where the face is obscured...or take it at such a distance that faces are not recognizable. If I do photograph an individual I ask for their permission, and explain why I would like to take the photo. I have been to an exhibit of "street photography" here in Bangkok and was shocked that almost all the photos were highly unflattering images of people who must have been photographed without their permission or knowledge of what was happening. I felt angry for all the people in the photos, whom I felt were being violated....if I had found my own image on the wall, I would have gone ballistic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Don't go to places where you wouldn't like your photo taken. How easy is that? So if a person just doesn't like having his photo taken, you expect him to stay home. Normally only hear of such logic from smokers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asheron Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Don't go to places where you wouldn't like your photo taken. How easy is that? So if a person just doesn't like having his photo taken, you expect him to stay home. Normally only hear of such logic from smokers. You have no issues being filmed by CCTV anywhere and everywhere without (especially London) and sometimes with* your consent but still feel "offended" when a person takes a picture of you? *like walking inside a shopping center that clearly says "we have CCTV in this building" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksam Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 CCTV is another topic completely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asheron Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 CCTV is another topic completely. I disagree. People should really be "offended"* a lot more by CCTV than some private person taking pictures/video of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidee Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 people complaining about some bloke taking a pic ? what about all the CCTV everywhere ? just wear a burka and you will be safe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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