Its about remembrance day and it reminds me of mans stupidity thats what remembrance day means to me ........what dont you understand? I do not have to show any respect.

OK Kannot, I am big enough to admit when I have read the situation wrongly.

I now understand the context of you post and offer you my apologies, I am sorry.

Its not my intention to offend in this, no need to apologise but "man" is his own worst enemy , why cant we all just get along...........well many reasons I suppose but stupidity, selfishness , greed , religion etc you name it.

We will surely annihilate ourselves, in a few billion years no one will be here to remember anything.

Just imagine the difference in history without any wars although there are many advancements because of war.

Sorry David if you think I hijacked the thread but thats what remembrance means to me.

War is essential. War will always be. Peace is only for the fallen soldiers.

Its also about reminding me about the sacrifices of members of my own family and the devastation of losing them to war.

Surely One day a year I can do the right thing and that is to think, think seriously about all the "implications" of so many family losses.

I really dont understand how people can make any comment that is not empathetic with the sentiment shown by he OP.

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"Implications"

Kids left Motherless and Fatherless,

Husbands and wives left as widowers and widow.

Mother and fathers witnessing the demise of their children to war

So many casualties who didn't die but lost limbs, minds in the carrying out of their daily duty

The mental breakdowns of those bereaved and the sad people who survived physically but not mentally to their experiences from the conflicts around the world

And lastly for those who are still serving and risking their all

Its not just about the dead or the ones left behind but about the continuing need for the protection of people like us who because of those who served and serve are able to voice our opinions on this forum so "Freely"

It is within my living memory the total devastation caused of losing a family member to war and it is something I do not wish to forget about.

Whether I agree about mans stupidity or not is not the issue in this thread it is whether I remember with great respect and appreciation for those who gave up so much.

4 of my friends were killed in 6 months in Afghanistan. I almost died about 10 times. Very lucky to be alive.

RIP boys.

Lieutenant Nuttal (me beside him)

Sergeant Faught

Private Todd

Private McKay

RIP Bonny Lads

With a sad tear in my eye I look at these pictures of these young men taken away in the prime of their lives and think of my own kids and what such a loss would do to me and my family

My thoughts also go to the families of these men who at the next Remembrance day will be reminded again of the sacrifices of their husbands, boyfriends, brothers and sisters and all the pain and sorrow that comes with remembering.

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Was thinking whisky, or rum

If you want to follow traditions, 'Gunfire' (tea and rum) is served at reveille by some British Army regiments (but not all) on Remembrance Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunfire_%28drink%29

I suppose that in Scottish regiments, whisky would be the tipple of choice.

To be honest, Gunfire is bogging (never liked tea), so the Scottish regiments get the better end of the deal.

'Gunfire' was only ever served at dawn on xmas day or on operations where temperatures fell below freezing for several days (the exact criteria was in QR 75 but i suspect it's long been withdrawn, H&S an' all that!). Officers served it @ xmas.

HTH

In my regiment it was served 4 times a year, X-mas, Regimental Day, Remembrance Day and Minden Day.

It was served to our bedside by the officers (from a Norwegian Container), who were accompanied by the drums platoon banging out a drum roll to wake you up.

As mentioned in my last post about Gunfire, not all regiments have Gunfire on Remembrance Day, each individual regiment carries out its own traditions.

Bought my Poppy and also a small badge.

In Australia that money goes to Legacy.

Are they Legacy organisations in your country?

Booked my room in Kanchanaburi, will ride my bike up there on Sunday with a stopover in Prachuap Kiri Khan.

Really looking fwd to the service at the cemetery there, should be very moving?

As mentioned by someone else in this topic war is amongst (if not the most) stupid action done by humans, and it never ends, most sadly.

I used to work at Luxembourg Airport for 9 years and drove by the nearby American Cemetery twice a day to/from my home in Hesperange. I sometimes just parked my car and walked around the cemetery to shed some tears for all these lost lives. Remembrance Day is every day.

Lest we Forget

Im sorry but it just reminds me of mans STUPIDITY.

and thats a good thing.

Its about remembrance day and it reminds me of mans stupidity thats what remembrance day means to me ........what dont you understand? I do not have to show any respect.

how simplistic!

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been explaining it all to my wife,

she says the thais have something similar on the 3rd feb,

When offering our remembrance to the brave who have fallen to protect our freedom, Russia should also be remembered for their contribution and great sacrifice on the battlefields of the Eastern front during World War 2.

As said by Frank Knox, the then secretary of the Navy, “We and our allies owe and acknowledge an ever-lasting debt of gratitude to the armies and people of the Soviet Union”.

COTB ... thanks for that song ... I've not heard it before ...

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been explaining it all to my wife,

she says the thais have something similar on the 3rd feb,

pj ... MissFarmGirl's Old Man is ex Navy. In his pick-up, in the cabin, next to the good luck Buddha Charm, he also has a Red Poppy, not given by me.

Never have asked how or why ... maybe next time I will.

Took MissFarmGirl to the ANZAC Day remembrance a few years back ... the Dawn Service.

She felt the emotion of the morning ... then, to her credit, came back, googled it (you can get the Thai version) showed a genuine interest. Nice!

But, we digress.

To the many who have served, to the many who are serving, to those who, like my Dad, served and have passed on ... to their Families ... Let us not Forget.

Let us remember them.

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Note to self, next year, if I 'remember' ... start another, counter thread in the Pub forum, to discuss the virtues, or not of, going to War.

The good of the many, outweigh the good of the few, or the one.

To that one Military person, who may, or may not have given the ultimate sacrifice, come the 11th Hour of the 11th Day of the 11th Month, may I take the time to personally remember you ...

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I said a prayer for those brave men and kids ..

David , are you saying you will still be here in a year's time

Nice little piece on the news on rememberence day.

It's was about all the animals that have died during all wars and those serving now.

It covered horses dogs donkeys pigeons etc and it was a great little piece and something I had never really thought of.

One story from WW1 was of a carrier pigeon shot down by a German soldier and despite having a wing half blown off walked 2 miles back to base to deliver the message and then died.

Of nothing compares with the loss of human life but it was great seeing the animals getting a mention!

Lest we forget.

It was a hot but worthwhile trip to Kanchanaburi. Many people had travelled from all over Thailand to attend.

Nice little piece on the news on rememberence day.

It's was about all the animals that have died during all wars and those serving now.

It covered horses dogs donkeys pigeons etc and it was a great little piece and something I had never really thought of.

One story from WW1 was of a carrier pigeon shot down by a German soldier and despite having a wing half blown off walked 2 miles back to base to deliver the message and then died.

Of nothing compares with the loss of human life but it was great seeing the animals getting a mention!

Lest we forget.

me being a pigeon man through and through,

if memory serves me right there was 18 dicken medals won by pigeons,

they did a great service, let to fly home out of spotter planes,bombers and from the front line in the heat of battle, great little featherd friends, i have many here in thailand on the farm, not for racing, just so ive got some round me all different colours,

and some call them flying rats,, not the ones in the war, they were they animal heros,,

god rest all who gave,,

Nice little piece on the news on rememberence day.

It's was about all the animals that have died during all wars and those serving now.

It covered horses dogs donkeys pigeons etc and it was a great little piece and something I had never really thought of.

One story from WW1 was of a carrier pigeon shot down by a German soldier and despite having a wing half blown off walked 2 miles back to base to deliver the message and then died.

Of nothing compares with the loss of human life but it was great seeing the animals getting a mention!

Lest we forget.

me being a pigeon man through and through,

if memory serves me right there was 18 dicken medals won by pigeons,

they did a great service, let to fly home out of spotter planes,bombers and from the front line in the heat of battle, great little featherd friends, i have many here in thailand on the farm, not for racing, just so ive got some round me all different colours,

and some call them flying rats,, not the ones in the war, they were they animal heros,,

god rest all who gave,,

god rest all who gave,,

Indeedy.

One story from WW1 was of a carrier pigeon shot down by a German soldier and despite having a wing half blown off walked 2 miles back to base to deliver the message and then died.

Great story ...

Obviously not a French Pigeon though.

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Locked in combat in the mud of the Battle of Passchendaele in October 1917, British troops needed to get an urgent signal back to their headquarters from the front line.

A messenger was despatched on a journey which should have taken 20 minutes. But shortly after setting off, while near the Menin Road – a notoriously vulnerable ridge – the courier came under fire. A bullet broke a leg and passed out of the body though the back, while the small metal message cylinder was left embedded in the side.

^{The Dickin Medal awarded to the pigeon (BNPS)}

Despite the horrendous injuries, the messenger dutifully continued, until finally completing the mission, delivering the message, after an agonising journey of more than 21 hours – before dying the next day.

But this feat of endurance and perseverance was achieved not by a soldier but by a pigeon, known only as 2709, one of thousands to serve – and die – in the First World War.

The PDSA Dickin Medal - recognised as the animals' Victoria Cross - was named after Maria Dickin, the founder of the PDSA, formerly known as the People's Dispensary for Sick Animals (PDSA). Between 1943 and 1949, 54 animals received the medal, including 32 pigeons, 18 dogs and 3 horses

One story from WW1 was of a carrier pigeon shot down by a German soldier and despite having a wing half blown off walked 2 miles back to base to deliver the message and then died.

Great story ...

Obviously not a French Pigeon though.

why is that obvious?

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