DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists

[petercool]

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[SteveFong]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

[jdinasia]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

Perhaps I missed a news article, could you link me to an article which states Ware or Sean have given details to the UK police?

[changnaam]

From what I understand chris ware was a lifelong friend of David. I would like to think that after returning to uk and being safe would have reported who he did and did not see that evening.

[Islandlife]

Head man of the village?? Maby few years ago that was.u all are so clever and shure about everything . Why dont ya all sort peace to world also,while at it.

Seem like bunch of experts. If you all could be replace police.

All this would be sorted allready.

Getting boring now.

[boomerangutang]

Head man of the village?? Maby few years ago that was.u all are so clever and shure about everything . Why dont ya all sort peace to world also,while at it.

Seem like bunch of experts. If you all could be replace police.

All this would be sorted allready.

Getting boring now.

You're right. If some of us could have had tangible roles in the investigation, it would have been a whole lot more meticulous. We would have thought of things to investigate (leading to incriminating evidence) which Thai officials literally don't have a notion to look for. Most of all, we wouldn't have been intimidated nor bribed by anyone on the island (nor Bangkok heavyweights), no matter how powerful and rich they are.

In sum: we would have left no stone un-turned in finding evidence to prove who committed those crimes. Any questions?

[Islandlife]

No questions, u summed it up pretty nicely. Wonder how people like u aint in charge of the world. World would be saved.

No rocks would not be unturn.

Thanks,ill go sleep with smile on my face. There is is still good people in world. Nice one!!

[englishoak]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

Perhaps I missed a news article, could you link me to an article which states Ware or Sean have given details to the UK police?

Why are you doubting the obvious and standard police operating procedure. ?

Standard operating procedure of the UKP, theres not only an official FO coroner inquest into the deaths but also an investigation of how and also a team investigating in Thailand. None of this can be done without full investigation and questioning of all who may have useful information, of course its been done.

Regarding Chris and indeed all the victims travelling companions/friends, they have all spoken to UKP at length and given detailed statements on their return home, Seans family have been in touch with the FO since the beginning of Seans incident ( stated on family FB page and request to stop asking questions by the home office in order it may put Sean in danger) Sean will also have been interviewed by the British authorities if they feel it relevant and are certainly in contact with Seans family and him further if needed.

It dosnt need a newpaper report to say how the basics of investigations are handled by UKP, this is just professional standard operating procedure of any decent police force.

Why do you bother making out this is not likely the case ?

Edited November 7, 2014 by englishoak

[SteveFong]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

Perhaps I missed a news article, could you link me to an article which states Ware or Sean have given details to the UK police?

do your own homework

find your own sources

[jdinasia]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

Perhaps I missed a news article, could you link me to an article which states Ware or Sean have given details to the UK police?

do your own homework

find your own sources

Nothing in any legitimate news source. I'll skip on social media claims though

[SteveFong]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

Perhaps I missed a news article, could you link me to an article which states Ware or Sean have given details to the UK police?

do your own homework

find your own sources

Nothing in any legitimate news source. I'll skip on social media claims though

no one has to prove facts to you

your attempts to deligitimize facts are pathetic and uninteresting

[englishoak]

You dont need newspaper reports or even social media to prove standard British Police operating procedure...

Edited November 7, 2014 by englishoak

[kcirtapyelrah]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

Perhaps I missed a news article, could you link me to an article which states Ware or Sean have given details to the UK police?

Why are you doubting the obvious and standard police operating procedure. ?

Standard operating procedure of the UKP, theres not only an official FO coroner inquest into the deaths but also an investigation of how and also a team investigating in Thailand. None of this can be done without full investigation and questioning of all who may have useful information, of course its been done.

Regarding Chris and indeed all the victims travelling companions/friends, they have all spoken to UKP at length and given detailed statements on their return home, Seans family have been in touch with the FO since the beginning of Seans incident ( stated on family FB page and request to stop asking questions by the home office in order it may put Sean in danger) Sean will also have been interviewed by the British authorities if they feel it relevant and are certainly in contact with Seans family and him further if needed.

It dosnt need a newpaper report to say how the basics of investigations are handled by UKP, this is just professional standard operating procedure of any decent police force.

Why do you bother making out this is not likely the case ?

That's all one hundred percent certain, the police did all their home work before they left the country, there's no doubt.

[greenchair]

the reality is

no poster here is uncovering anything

Chris Ware has given detailed statements along with photos, of who was in the bar that night

Sean McAnna has also given, in depth statements to authorities

Sean McAnna has implicated the AC Bar owner,

Sean McAnna received a warning cut on his arm,

Sean McAnna posted pictures of two men who wanted to kill him,

NomSod can not verfiy his whereabout, in a real court of law,

NomSod's girlfreind posted all over her Instagram, ,for all the world to see, that NomSod was MIA for two days

HELLO!

ps/ U police have their own DNA from the girl,

and, they have DNA from David; apparently, they were not wearing gloves

here is your case

Perhaps I missed a news article, could you link me to an article which states Ware or Sean have given details to the UK police?

He did not say to uk police. He said to authorities.

It's common knowledge that both sean and chris gave statements to police.

And just to spice things up.

Nomsod father said he did not know where his son was.

Nomsod cousin lied.

Rtp said, David was not killed by hoe.

Rtp said 3 or more culprits.

The b2 said they were asleep between 4 and 6. And friend confirmed.

(Plausible) nomsod said he was asleep 1 pm to 9 the next morning. Hmmm.

Mon said he was fast asleep and someone woke him up. He leaped out of bed,ran to the beach and ran back again because he forgot something. He said that is why he is caught on camera. Hmmm

[boomerangutang]

No questions, u summed it up pretty nicely. Wonder how people like u aint in charge of the world. World would be saved.

No rocks would not be unturn. Thanks,ill go sleep with smile on my face. There is is still good people in world. Nice one!!

Islandlife is responding to my post claiming I and some others on this thread would have done a better investigation than Thai cops. It's not a stretch, buddy. If a paint crew comes to a house to paint it, and splatters paint all over the foliage, the car, the floor, and doesn't wash their brushes except to wipe them on the pelts of your pets, ....then you'd be correct to claim you could do a better paint job.

There are soooooo many investigative items which the Thai cops either didn't think of, or messed up, (from incompetence) or contrived or obfuscated (because of the frame-up and/or shielding the headman's family) that it could fill a thick book. I'm a writer of sorts and I may put pen to paper in this regard. One drawback in doing something like that, is friends/family of headman might hunt me down and threaten bodily harm, or simply knock me off. Such things happen in Thailand, several times/year on average.

[boomerangutang]

Methinks Islandlife is an account used by two people. Some of the posts are in poor English/spelling, others are articulate as you'd expect from a native English speaker. Am I off base on that?

[simonuk]

No questions, u summed it up pretty nicely. Wonder how people like u aint in charge of the world. World would be saved.

No rocks would not be unturn. Thanks,ill go sleep with smile on my face. There is is still good people in world. Nice one!!

Islandlife is responding to my post claiming I and some others on this thread would have done a better investigation than Thai cops. It's not a stretch, buddy. If a paint crew comes to a house to paint it, and splatters paint all over the foliage, the car, the floor, and doesn't wash their brushes except to wipe them on the pelts of your pets, ....then you'd be correct to claim you could do a better paint job.

There are soooooo many investigative items which the Thai cops either didn't think of, or messed up, (from incompetence) or contrived or obfuscated (because of the frame-up and/or shielding the headman's family) that it could fill a thick book. I'm a writer of sorts and I may put pen to paper in this regard. One drawback in doing something like that, is friends/family of headman might hunt me down and threaten bodily harm, or simply knock me off. Such things happen in Thailand, several times/year on average.

Someone is going to write about this shambles and the all pervasive Web of corruption that extends to every corner of Thailand. You should get in quick.

Thanks for a new word by the way "obfuscation" . Love it

[simonuk]

Methinks Islandlife is an account used by two people. Some of the posts are in poor English/spelling, others are articulate as you'd expect from a native English speaker. Am I off base on that?

Yeah , you're right. It certainly looks like that.

[Soutpeel]

Methinks Islandlife is an account used by two people. Some of the posts are in poor English/spelling, others are articulate as you'd expect from a native English speaker. Am I off base on that?

Yeah , you're right. It certainly looks like that.

Native English speaking KT "diver master" on one shift, None native English speaking "Diver master" on the other, Scandinavian or similar me thinks

[Bleacher Bum East]

Methinks Islandlife is an account used by two people. Some of the posts are in poor English/spelling, others are articulate as you'd expect from a native English speaker. Am I off base on that?

Yeah , you're right. It certainly looks like that.

Native English speaking KT "diver master" on one shift, None native English speaking "Diver master" on the other, Scandinavian or similar me thinks

I don't think it was a coincidence that a certain frequent poster disappeared for the most part at the same time that Islandlife showed up . . . so yes it's a good bet the new poster is an "imposter".

I believe that even jdinasia made a subtle comment calling him out on it a while back . . . saying that Islandlife's use of the phrase "pot kettle black" (or something like that) gave him away.

Now this truly is a conspiracy theory . . . but of course not all conspiracy theories turn out to be false, eh?

[timewilltell]

Koh Tao has a huge drug trade. The proceeds are distributed between the corrupt systems in Thailand which run right to the top. Political, police and military are overlapping cogs but the drug trade is controlled by whom on Koh Tao? Does anyone think the various cogs would jeapodise the income needed to keep them turning?

I do not know who did the terrible crime, nor the other young kid who was murdered in similar circumstances a few months back but I am sure IF one of the influential families controlling the vibrant drug trade were involved then ranks would close to protect their own.

Now that protection runs to the very top of Thai 'societal system', above even the prime minister maybe, since even he has people he needs to keep happy. So the local police for all their apparent incompetence, will not be free to arrest anyone who is involved in the drug trade as it would harm the honey pot. I don't think the local Thai police are as incompetent as it seems, I think they are under pressure from many interested parties and not free to do their job. If you look at the things various police have said over the weeks you can see the changing dynamics as the various elements who are the power brokers became involved.

I am sure the two Burmese are not Angels and were around in the vicinity that night. I am equally sure there is pressure to keep the investigation away from the families who operate the huge drug trade on Koh Tao and that there CANNOT be complete Justice. The drug trade is far far more important than a couple of foreigners who got in the way of a sex crazed psychopath connected to the drug business who will be protected at all costs, IF that is how it was. The murder of the other young guy who was murdered in similar circumstances a while back is hugely relevant. There is a VERY good chance the people involved are still around and will murder again for they know they can get away with ANYTHING.

[Bleacher Bum East]

Methinks Islandlife is an account used by two people. Some of the posts are in poor English/spelling, others are articulate as you'd expect from a native English speaker. Am I off base on that?

Yeah , you're right. It certainly looks like that.

Native English speaking KT "diver master" on one shift, None native English speaking "Diver master" on the other, Scandinavian or similar me thinks

I don't think it was a coincidence that a certain frequent poster disappeared for the most part at the same time that Islandlife showed up . . . so yes it's a good bet the new poster is an "imposter".

I believe that even jdinasia made a subtle comment calling him out on it a while back . . . saying that Islandlife's use of the phrase "pot kettle black" (or something like that) gave him away.

Now this truly is a conspiracy theory . . . but of course not all conspiracy theories turn out to be false, eh?

[BoristheBlade]

Claude, is it getting any busier these days?

[boomerangutang]

Methinks Islandlife is an account used by two people. Some of the posts are in poor English/spelling, others are articulate as you'd expect from a native English speaker. Am I off base on that?

Yeah , you're right. It certainly looks like that.

Native English speaking KT "diver master" on one shift, None native English speaking "Diver master" on the other, Scandinavian or similar me thinks

I don't think it was a coincidence that a certain frequent poster disappeared for the most part at the same time that Islandlife showed up . . . so yes it's a good bet the new poster is an "imposter".

I believe that even jdinasia made a subtle comment calling him out on it a while back . . . saying that Islandlife's use of the phrase "pot kettle black" (or something like that) gave him away.

Where has JohnThailandJohn gone? He was posting often, until a couple days ago. All his posts were along the lines; "The RTP is right. Everyone who counters the RTP are conspiracy theorists." More recently, he challenged me to find any posts of his which called the Burmese 'rapists and murderers.' I did find such posts. He's been quiet since. Chagrined, perchance? I kinda miss his posts. It's challenging to have someone contrary to bounce off of, instead of just JD. It stirs things up. Indeed, it's almost comical how they continue to toe the official line, when so much evidence (and officials' avoidance/ignorance of basic investigative principles) points toward the headman's family.

Edited November 8, 2014 by boomerangutang

[BoristheBlade]

Just think, someone on this forum, is located on the same island that the murders took place.

Is well informed, has close links with important people, knows the real story.

Is happy to continue to lie and cover up a serious crime, maybe out of financial necessity or force.

I hope that person sleeps well

[Bleacher Bum East]

I don't think it was a coincidence that a certain frequent poster disappeared for the most part at the same time that Islandlife showed up . . . so yes it's a good bet the new poster is an "imposter".

I believe that even jdinasia made a subtle comment calling him out on it a while back . . . saying that Islandlife's use of the phrase "pot kettle black" (or something like that) gave him away.

Where has JohnThailandJohn gone? He was posting often, until a couple days ago. All his posts were along the lines; "The RTP is right. Everyone who counters the RTP are conspiracy theorists." More recently, he challenged me to find any posts of his which called the Burmese 'rapists and murderers.' I did find such posts. He's been quiet since. Chagrined, perchance? I kinda miss his posts. It's challenging to have someone contrary to bounce off of, instead of just JD. It stirs things up. Indeed, it's almost comical how they continue to toe the official line, when so much evidence (and officials' avoidance/ignorance of basic investigative principles) points toward the headman's family.

That's who I was referring to . . . I'm wildly speculating that JTJ has morphed into Islandlife . . . maybe even he was getting bored of his old persona?

[BoristheBlade]

Maybe JTJ has found his conscience.

[AGareth2]

I don't think it was a coincidence that a certain frequent poster disappeared for the most part at the same time that Islandlife showed up . . . so yes it's a good bet the new poster is an "imposter".

I believe that even jdinasia made a subtle comment calling him out on it a while back . . . saying that Islandlife's use of the phrase "pot kettle black" (or something like that) gave him away.

Where has JohnThailandJohn gone? He was posting often, until a couple days ago. All his posts were along the lines; "The RTP is right. Everyone who counters the RTP are conspiracy theorists." More recently, he challenged me to find any posts of his which called the Burmese 'rapists and murderers.' I did find such posts. He's been quiet since. Chagrined, perchance? I kinda miss his posts. It's challenging to have someone contrary to bounce off of, instead of just JD. It stirs things up. Indeed, it's almost comical how they continue to toe the official line, when so much evidence (and officials' avoidance/ignorance of basic investigative principles) points toward the headman's family.

That's who I was referring to . . . I'm wildly speculating that JTJ has morphed into Islandlife . . . maybe even he was getting bored of his old persona?

he has contacts on the island

maybe he heard something

or

he needed to rest

[DJVillain]

Head man of the village?? Maby few years ago that was.u all are so clever and shure about everything . Why dont ya all sort peace to world also,while at it.

Seem like bunch of experts. If you all could be replace police.

All this would be sorted allready.

Getting boring now.

Yeah, but this is Thailand....

Farangs aren't allowed to do a job that a Thai can SHOULD BE ABLE to do...

Just a shame that the Thais dont seem to realise that they are lousy at the whole police thing... As far as keeping law abiding people safe at least...

The whole taking fines, backhanders and protecting people who can fill their wallets they are really good at though...

P.S. I really hope you didn't move to Thailand to be a language teacher...

[AGareth2]

Methinks Islandlife is an account used by two people. Some of the posts are in poor English/spelling, others are articulate as you'd expect from a native English speaker. Am I off base on that?

mmm

yes

looking at last post quoted