Lite Beer Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Aussie jogger fights off would-be Phuket rapist The quiet road where the jogger was attacked. PHUKET: An Australian teacher this morning heroically fought off a would-be rapist who grabbed her while she was jogging near Bangtao Beach, and injured him in the process. Cherng Talay Police were alerted to the assault by a security guard at The Residence Resort and Spa Retreat on the Cherng Talay-Bangtao road at 9am. The guard reported that the woman had asked him for protection from a man who was trying to rape her.“When we arrived we met the woman, who declined to give her name but said she was a teacher at an international school,” said Sub Lt Sathaporn Tongthep of Cherng Talay Police.Speaking through an interpreter she explained that she left home at 8:40 to go jogging. “As she ran, a man wearing a black T-shirt and grey shorts came up alongside on his motorbike and began to touch and grab at her. He then dragged her into a nearby wood,” he explained.The jogger fought him off and ran to the security guard, stationed about 150 metres away.“The attacker was described as being about 25 to 30 years old, with brown teeth. She said he also had an injury to his left leg which she inflicted while fighting him off,” S/Lt Sathaporn said.He said the woman declined to file an official complaint and police escorted her home. Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/heroic-jogger-fights-off-would-be-phuket-rapist-49454.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter -- Phuket News 2014-11-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post konying Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 Excellent description. 25-30 years old with brown teeth. Was he asian looking with black hair? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Bob Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 As you can see one Thai can not handle one western women. Should have done it the old Thai way and have 10 friends join in. But good for the women fighting back at the scum bag. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Good for her. Calm under pressure. Hope she damaged his crown jewels. If a person doesn't have the protection of a family group here in thailand it just seems like they risk such exploitation. My wife says Thai women live in constant risk of sexual assault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ttthailand Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 Good for her. Calm under pressure. Hope she damaged his crown jewels. If a person doesn't have the protection of a family group here in thailand it just seems like they risk such exploitation. My wife says Thai women live in constant risk of sexual assault. My Thai GF says that she too is afraid of being raped and don't trust any Thai guys. Sad when you can't even go for a jog in the morning. Thailand is going down hill so quickly it is hard to imagine. 20 years ago when I first came it seemed so safe, what has happened ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thailand needs to work on foreigner safety...well actually it needs to work on safety but that is such a HUGE job it is near impossible. Make a stand by punishing these attackers hard in the courts and putting these stories through the papers. Make it clear that they want tourism and are willing to protect tourists. It is getting to the point where, with the added attention from the Koh Tao case, they have little choice but to deal with this problem effectively and publicly if they want to get their key markets back. Certainly I now want my wife to only use GrabTaxi as she was "propositioned" outside our house a few months ago. She had our 3 year old girl with her too. She threw the money at the driver, got out (so lucky the door was unlocked!) and shouted my name (even though I wasn't in). How differently that could have ended! I was so very angry but there was little I could do. She has GrabTaxi and she shares her journey (i.e. plate) with me. If I can't get hold of her after she takes a taxi then at least we know where to start! This is very different to how it was 6 years ago. My wife dresses very conservatively (learned that from our travels all over the world) and doesn't travel alone at night. Even so she was still "propositioned" whilst carrying a 3 year old. That little f*** is lucky I wasn't in.....so am I! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post konying Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thailand needs to work on foreigner safety...well actually it needs to work on safety but that is such a HUGE job it is near impossible. Make a stand by punishing these attackers hard in the courts and putting these stories through the papers. Make it clear that they want tourism and are willing to protect tourists. It is getting to the point where, with the added attention from the Koh Tao case, they have little choice but to deal with this problem effectively and publicly if they want to get their key markets back. Certainly I now want my wife to only use GrabTaxi as she was "propositioned" outside our house a few months ago. She had our 3 year old girl with her too. She threw the money at the driver, got out (so lucky the door was unlocked!) and shouted my name (even though I wasn't in). How differently that could have ended! I was so very angry but there was little I could do. She has GrabTaxi and she shares her journey (i.e. plate) with me. If I can't get hold of her after she takes a taxi then at least we know where to start! This is very different to how it was 6 years ago. My wife dresses very conservatively (learned that from our travels all over the world) and doesn't travel alone at night. Even so she was still "propositioned" whilst carrying a 3 year old. That little f*** is lucky I wasn't in.....so am I! What thailand needs is to stop handing down light sentences just because someone confessed. What thailand needs is either huge signs on every corner or non stop TV shows telling brain dead people of punishment for each crime. Some dumb asses kill someone in daylight with witnesses all over the place , because little peanut brain does not understand the consequences. What Thailand needs is educated and trained police force who follow up on most crimes, not only the ones reported in the media. What Thailand needs is anonymous help lines to report rapes, especially in the villages where young girls get raped daily by uncles or brothers friends . What Thailand needs is simple etiquette lessons so the victim does not get paraded in front of the cams . There are too many things to list , so do not expect any changes in the near future. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NamKangMan Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thailand needs to work on foreigner safety...well actually it needs to work on safety but that is such a HUGE job it is near impossible. Make a stand by punishing these attackers hard in the courts and putting these stories through the papers. Make it clear that they want tourism and are willing to protect tourists. It is getting to the point where, with the added attention from the Koh Tao case, they have little choice but to deal with this problem effectively and publicly if they want to get their key markets back. Certainly I now want my wife to only use GrabTaxi as she was "propositioned" outside our house a few months ago. She had our 3 year old girl with her too. She threw the money at the driver, got out (so lucky the door was unlocked!) and shouted my name (even though I wasn't in). How differently that could have ended! I was so very angry but there was little I could do. She has GrabTaxi and she shares her journey (i.e. plate) with me. If I can't get hold of her after she takes a taxi then at least we know where to start! This is very different to how it was 6 years ago. My wife dresses very conservatively (learned that from our travels all over the world) and doesn't travel alone at night. Even so she was still "propositioned" whilst carrying a 3 year old. That little f*** is lucky I wasn't in.....so am I! What thailand needs is to stop handing down light sentences just because someone confessed. What thailand needs is either huge signs on every corner or non stop TV shows telling brain dead people of punishment for each crime. Some dumb asses kill someone in daylight with witnesses all over the place , because little peanut brain does not understand the consequences. What Thailand needs is educated and trained police force who follow up on most crimes, not only the ones reported in the media. What Thailand needs is anonymous help lines to report rapes, especially in the villages where young girls get raped daily by uncles or brothers friends . What Thailand needs is simple etiquette lessons so the victim does not get paraded in front of the cams . There are too many things to list , so do not expect any changes in the near future. I really don't. This is mostly venting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RustBucket Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post konying Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. Perhaps she did not want to be paraded in front of all the camera's, then spend few days filling out reports and then be responsible for an innocent person going to jail. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post draftvader Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. A large proportion of people who suffer sexual violence start by blaming themselves. They have a tremendous amount of guilt, denial and self-loathing because of it. This woman may also feel that making a statement to the police could end with her being further embarrassed (or worse) for no gain, particularly with everything else that is going on right now in relation to a particular sexual crime. Recently a dead girl was accused of dressing provocatively and that caused her brutal rape and murder. That accusation came from the top. Do you now understand why this woman declined to give her name? This woman really isn't part of the problem and your lack of respect for her decision feels disrespectful considering what has happened. If you wish to continue this discussion from your position please do a little more research into victims of sexual violence and then come back. Edited November 2, 2014 by draftvader 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. It has been suggested to me when I use sarcasm that I should indicate such at the bottom of the post or sure as <delete> someone is going to take it literally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyberholz Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. She would be paraded by the police in front of the media. That's why she refused. Thai media don't respect victims, they nearly celebrate the acts of violence and humiliation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Excellent description. 25-30 years old with brown teeth. Was he asian looking with black hair? Yes, a pity she forgot to ask him for a copy of his ID card. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post konying Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 Excellent description. 25-30 years old with brown teeth. Was he asian looking with black hair? Yes, a pity she forgot to ask him for a copy of his ID card. I doubt he would have a copy, so the original would have been just fine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. She would be paraded by the police in front of the media. That's why she refused. Thai media don't respect victims, they nearly celebrate the acts of violence and humiliation. No, that is easily avoided. But she probably did not want to draw attention to herself for another reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Thailand needs to work on foreigner safety...well actually it needs to work on safety but that is such a HUGE job it is near impossible. Make a stand by punishing these attackers hard in the courts and putting these stories through the papers. Make it clear that they want tourism and are willing to protect tourists. It is getting to the point where, with the added attention from the Koh Tao case, they have little choice but to deal with this problem effectively and publicly if they want to get their key markets back. Certainly I now want my wife to only use GrabTaxi as she was "propositioned" outside our house a few months ago. She had our 3 year old girl with her too. She threw the money at the driver, got out (so lucky the door was unlocked!) and shouted my name (even though I wasn't in). How differently that could have ended! I was so very angry but there was little I could do. She has GrabTaxi and she shares her journey (i.e. plate) with me. If I can't get hold of her after she takes a taxi then at least we know where to start! This is very different to how it was 6 years ago. My wife dresses very conservatively (learned that from our travels all over the world) and doesn't travel alone at night. Even so she was still "propositioned" whilst carrying a 3 year old. That little f*** is lucky I wasn't in.....so am I! IMO Thailand need to reform the education system from A-Z and to teach parents that raising a child is a bit different than have a pet for fun. Edited November 2, 2014 by Felt 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) No woman on her own is safe in Thailand. Thai girls understand that. Foreign girls don't. Maybe the foreign girls shouldn't be jogging alone in secluded areas. Edited November 2, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 To be accurate, this was a sexual assault and an "attempted" rape. Since there were no witnesses and no semen or identifiable evidence that would have been present with an actual rape, how would Thai Law treat this incident? It would be the alleged attackers word against the victim. It could very well be a situation where the victim would spend alot of energy to convict this guy and have it result in a minimal outcome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Dont <deleted> with Aussies is all I can say Edited November 2, 2014 by metisdead Profanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simondan Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. 'Rustbucket'. Lol! That says it all mate. To say this woman is part of the problem of rape is about as unbelievably stupid as it gets. You reckon she mightnt have had a good think about it? And made the decision for her own good reasons. Reasons you should respect if you had any idea this is a multi dimensional issue and not a sudoku puzzle you really want to solve. Really, what an insanely crass comment to make! If TV had a prize for Neanderthal of the Year you'd take it away for 2014 for sure! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. May be she read about the man who was robbed in Phuket a few months ago and then the police wanted 500 B for filing charges. When he than wanted to cancel they put him to prison. So what could she do when she not even could trust the police. By the way - how long would the atacker have been away from the streets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) To say this woman is part of the problem of rape is about as unbelievably stupid as it gets. I'm thinking if she hadn't been jogging along a secluded road in a scanty jogging outfit, there wouldn't have been a problem. What do you think? Would she have been doing the same thing in India, Saudi or Nigeria? How do you think that would have gone? Edited November 2, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wonder why she refused to give her name, and declined to make a complaint. I was thinking that myself. I can understand not giving her name because of possible reprisals. But to not press charges?? Does she even realise that had this piece of trash managed to overpower her, he would certainly not have left her alive to tell the story. Her refusal to press charges against this scum, keeps him on the streets to do it again and again till he is finally caught. This woman is part of the problem. It should not be up to her to make the decision whether or not this crime is investigated.... Well it won't be investigated now, thanks to her. May be she read about the man who was robbed in Phuket a few months ago and then the police wanted 500 B for filing charges. When he than wanted to cancel they put him to prison. So what could she do when she not even could trust the police. By the way - how long would the atacker have been away from the streets? Wherer did you get that story from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simondan Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 To say this woman is part of the problem of rape is about as unbelievably stupid as it gets. I'm thinking if she hadn't been jogging along a secluded road in a scanty jogging outfit, there wouldn't have been a problem. What do you think? Would she have been doing the same thing in India, Saudi or Nigeria? How do you think that would have gone? So you get in the mood for a good rapin' when you see a woman jogging in shorts (are running shorts 'scanty' - Ive seen plenty of Thai women running and playing sport in shorts - seems pretty normal here)? Im guessing not. So why is this guy somehow partly understandable because he does? Surely Phuket isnt some backswards arsed location in India etc where rape is considered the womans fault and all part of a good day out for the boys? And where white women are a rare sight? Women both Thai and farang regularly wear shorts in Phuket - its a common sight. The guy is a gutless rapist - the only motivation to his behaviour is in his own head, not in her apparell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 To say this woman is part of the problem of rape is about as unbelievably stupid as it gets. I'm thinking if she hadn't been jogging along a secluded road in a scanty jogging outfit, there wouldn't have been a problem. What do you think? Would she have been doing the same thing in India, Saudi or Nigeria? How do you think that would have gone? So you get in the mood for a good rapin' when you see a woman jogging in shorts (are running shorts 'scanty' - Ive seen plenty of Thai women running and playing sport in shorts - seems pretty normal here)? Not in a secluded place on their own, you haven't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttthailand Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I say , Catch the guy and cut off his nuts and his prick as he can't handle himself. The woman did a great job getting the scum away from her. Well done !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simondan Posted November 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok I agree that everyone in a foreign country needs to be careful about what they do where. Especially women. I have seen Western women wearing little ripped denim shorts in back country Malaysia where local women are wearing full Muslim dress. Thats just stupid and insensitive. So I can see your point. But there was a hotel 150 m away. Is that secluded or remote? The road is described as quiet in the report. I dont know. This can happen anywhere in the world I guess. I just get repelled when a bunch of guys get together after an attempted rape and start passing judgement - 'yeah, she was wearing shorts for #@$!* sake', and 'what was she doing wearing those shorts on THAT road?'. It all leads to that age old chestnut 'well then, she was asking for it'. And thats just rubbish. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok I agree that everyone in a foreign country needs to be careful about what they do where. Especially women. I have seen Western women wearing little ripped denim shorts in back country Malaysia where local women are wearing full Muslim dress. Thats just stupid and insensitive. So I can see your point. But there was a hotel 150 m away. Is that secluded or remote? The road is described as quiet in the report. I dont know. This can happen anywhere in the world I guess. I just get repelled when a bunch of guys get together after an attempted rape and start passing judgement - 'yeah, she was wearing shorts for #@$!* sake', and 'what was she doing wearing those shorts on THAT road?'. It all leads to that age old chestnut 'well then, she was asking for it'. And thats just rubbish. If I am walking around with a wad of cash hanging out of my pockets then my actions play a role in the event I am robbed. Did I deserve to get robbed? No. However, my actions were contributory to my becoming a victim. I would say your post could be interpreted as sexist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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