thaibeachlovers Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 If you are concerened about this crap, you are far too involved in the country. Its not your country, its the Thais country and you need to get on with your life, be it here or not be here. If you choose to stay here then get used to the shitty way things happen here.After many many years I am certainly aware of the way things work here. However, the point is that many of us that know were criticizing the new walkway because it destroyed the existing, not very good but better than the new walkway, removed all the shade and removed most of the seating, only to be attacked by certain posters that said how wonderful it was going to be.However, I haven't heard any of them coming on to contradict my last few threads about how it is rubbish now. OK, you are right and it's rubbish now.Feel any better? No. I'd rather have a walkway with seats and some shade to sit and watch the world go by, but that option has now gone, along with most of the old trees. I just hope the message gets to city hall and they do something about seating and shade, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Nixon Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It appears that detailed Engineering drawings prior to releasing a job are not a part of Thai life. Part two of the problem is there is not sufficient supervision of the project by municipal authorities. Part 3 of the problem is it unlikely that there are any standards of something as simple as a sidewalk. Even in the largest cities in North America after all there of these are covered there are still considerable problems for something as simple as the construction of a sidewalk but at the end the sidewalks are constructed with high standards and are very easy to negotiate. Of course you seldom find businesses on the sidewalk without a permit for that specific location. That license is given out after due consideration of space and convenience of the walking public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooloomooloo Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 The promenade looks much like it was when we were there in June with the addition of conveniently situated sandbags for seating. We'll be down there later this week. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have just been informed how to add more photos, so these are from beside the Thai Air office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 The Bus Stop signs have been up for months on Beach Road. What bus service will there be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 The Bus Stop signs have been up for months on Beach Road. What bus service will there be? There have been attempts over many many years to provide a "bus" service in Pattaya. Of course they never succeed due to the influence of other methods of transport that would be impacted. This is obviously just the latest attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 If you are concerened about this crap, you are far too involved in the country. Its not your country, its the Thais country and you need to get on with your life, be it here or not be here. If you choose to stay here then get used to the shitty way things happen here. After many many years I am certainly aware of the way things work here. However, the point is that many of us that know were criticizing the new walkway because it destroyed the existing, not very good but better than the new walkway, removed all the shade and removed most of the seating, only to be attacked by certain posters that said how wonderful it was going to be. However, I haven't heard any of them coming on to contradict my last few threads about how it is rubbish now. Thaibeachlover is absolutely 100% spot on here....I would say he summed up the beach situation quite nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 No explanations required. It's a disaster. Disregard the rubbish in the first few photos. It was after some sort of mass function, and they were cleaning up the garbage as I was taking the photos. However, the holes weren't made in a night and the sandbags appear to be permanent. Wow! It's a pity no one can hack those photo's onto the TAT website???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 To be honest it almost sickens me when I think of them chopping down Pattays one and only green space in the entire city that's accessible...And no a bunch of dumb ass palm trees dont count as replacements... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 1 solution, clean up this beach and do not allow thai ,nor chinese ,korean...people to come close of the clean beach . Give them another beach ,where they can create a dump for themselves and enjoy it. Just a racist comment. There is that knee-jerk response, much like calling someone anti-Semitic... Please up your game... You have obviously never seen the way some asian cultures dispose of trash, which is to simply drop it where they stand... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 No explanations required. It's a disaster. Disregard the rubbish in the first few photos. It was after some sort of mass function, and they were cleaning up the garbage as I was taking the photos. However, the holes weren't made in a night and the sandbags appear to be permanent. Pretty hard to disregard the trash as trash bins for use by the public are scarce. I can understand the delays on repairing the storm damage but the trash is inexcusable. I hope the Mayor could see these pics. Pattaya has a mayor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If you are concerned about this crap, you are far too involved in the country. Its not your country, its the Thais country and you need to get on with your life, be it here or not be here. If you choose to stay here then get used to the shitty way things happen here. And THAT is the same attitude many of the Thais have, which in turn is murdering tourism. Response #27 above gave this very interesting link to "Thai Tourism: Arrivals by Nationality". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand#Top_20_arrivals_by_nationality There you can see that there has been a phenomenal increase in "Cheap Charlie" tourists from China, India, Russia and such places. Perhaps tourists from those sources are great contributors to "murdering tourism"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterphil Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 If you are concerned about this crap, you are far too involved in the country. Its not your country, its the Thais country and you need to get on with your life, be it here or not be here. If you choose to stay here then get used to the shitty way things happen here. And THAT is the same attitude many of the Thais have, which in turn is murdering tourism. Good. Im not a tourist, so the less tourists here the better for me. I'll be able to get from my house to the town a lot quicker if there's less tourists on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Troll post and replies to it removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry001 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thai workmanship in full view. The footpath along Thrappaya road still has not been completed after 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thai workmanship in full view. The footpath along Thrappaya road still has not been completed after 5 years. Footpaths are not important to those that run the place. I doubt they ever walk anywhere. Besides, the budget for the pavement has probably long vanished, for the usual reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 A big thanks to the op for the pictures. I havnt been to Beach Rd for a number of years, Im not missing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampdonkey Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 No explanations required. It's a disaster. Disregard the rubbish in the first few photos. It was after some sort of mass function, and they were cleaning up the garbage as I was taking the photos. However, the holes weren't made in a night and the sandbags appear to be permanent. Wow! It's a pity no one can hack those photo's onto the TAT website???? Send them to their Twitter or Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slygeeza Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 at lot of the foot path at the walking st end has collapsed now. not a surprize as it was collapsed before they rebuilt it and they did nothing to prevent it happening again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) at lot of the foot path at the walking st end has collapsed now. not a surprize as it was collapsed before they rebuilt it and they did nothing to prevent it happening again And in that area at North end just South of the giant sandbags mess the water is up to the seawall. Now that the North to South (wind driven ) longshore current is in effect look for walkway/seawall collapse in that area, part two. Edited November 25, 2014 by morrobay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Thai workmanship in full view. The footpath along Thrappaya road still has not been completed after 5 years. Footpaths are not important to those that run the place. I doubt they ever walk anywhere. Besides, the budget for the pavement has probably long vanished, for the usual reason. And footpaths are not important to the hundreds of thousands of Asians and Indians in their cattle walk to speedboats.Not important to the Russians at beach. The locals could care less and supply most of the garbage on walkway. The foreigners at the beach for the girls are not going to lose any sleep about it. The only groups that see a nice environment as important are the expats and " high quality tourists " City Hall could care less about the first group. And as much as they talk the talk about attracting the quality tourists I would be surprised if any of them return for a second visit..The shambles the city has made of what could have been a nice environment is beyond the tipping point. Im expecting all these so called quality hotels built along the beach ending up as wholesale sleeping quarters for the touring masses. Edited November 25, 2014 by morrobay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 at lot of the foot path at the walking st end has collapsed now. not a surprize as it was collapsed before they rebuilt it and they did nothing to prevent it happening again Some photos would be helpful, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hello Pattaya City Councilmen and mayor !!!! You ever heard of budgeted maintenance? (I know you have heard of pocketing baht maintenance.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The 2 ways into Walking Street from the North are ridiculously terrible. Narrow(just try to get by the Chinese tours) and smelly (walking over the sewage plant's grates are an experience)! And they don't care about that. The beach path is wonderful compared to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slygeeza Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The 2 ways into Walking Street from the North are ridiculously terrible. Narrow(just try to get by the Chinese tours) and smelly (walking over the sewage plant's grates are an experience)! And they don't care about that. The beach path is wonderful compared to that! yes, the gap, known as "the gap", which is a 2 foot wide gap between a power pole and a hot kabab cooker that thousands of tourists have to squeeze thru every night a few meters up from the entrance of walking st in pattaya tai is a cultural icon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 The 2 ways into Walking Street from the North are ridiculously terrible. Narrow(just try to get by the Chinese tours) and smelly (walking over the sewage plant's grates are an experience)! And they don't care about that. The beach path is wonderful compared to that! yes, the gap, known as "the gap", which is a 2 foot wide gap between a power pole and a hot kabab cooker that thousands of tourists have to squeeze thru every night a few meters up from the entrance of walking st in pattaya tai is a cultural icon a hot kabab cooker It's safer that the red hot braziers that they have hanging off food stalls in local markets. Health and safety is a foreign concept in LOS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The 2 ways into Walking Street from the North are ridiculously terrible. Narrow(just try to get by the Chinese tours) and smelly (walking over the sewage plant's grates are an experience)! And they don't care about that. The beach path is wonderful compared to that! yes, the gap, known as "the gap", which is a 2 foot wide gap between a power pole and a hot kabab cooker that thousands of tourists have to squeeze thru every night a few meters up from the entrance of walking st in pattaya tai is a cultural icon Don't forget the electrical wires hanging down! Only the deserving make it. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 The 2 ways into Walking Street from the North are ridiculously terrible. Narrow(just try to get by the Chinese tours) and smelly (walking over the sewage plant's grates are an experience)! And they don't care about that. The beach path is wonderful compared to that! yes, the gap, known as "the gap", which is a 2 foot wide gap between a power pole and a hot kabab cooker that thousands of tourists have to squeeze thru every night a few meters up from the entrance of walking st in pattaya tai is a cultural icon Yes, it's a cultural icon in the same way as the toilet in Bugis Street was a Singapore cultural icon back in the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozza Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 If you are concerened about this crap, you are far too involved in the country. Its not your country, its the Thais country and you need to get on with your life, be it here or not be here. If you choose to stay here then get used to the shitty way things happen here. Do you live in Pattaya? if not mind your business. People like yourself are the first to complain if they fell down a hole, broken leg-arm, the Thai's themselves are embarrassed, "kannot fix neung time now fix song not good" you actually call it "shitty things" how dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillLangdon Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Slum Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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