Possible Ebola patient disappears in Bangkok

[Thai at Heart]

I guess this was a matter of when, not if.

Inevitably. Sadly....

[chainarong]

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Now if the character was a suspected Ebola victim he should have been put into an isolation ward situation until such time as any infection would show if it was a positive matter.

Yet we see a total indifference to the reality of the situation situation and now we have the possible chance of an Ebola victim roaming around Thailand and possibly infecting others.

Ah well the Thai's state they have a cure for Ebola so one must suppose there is no need for concern is there?]

Perhaps if the Thai's could ''discover '' a cure for ineptness we all might feel a little happier.

I am not sure that this person had Ebola and was discharged on observation, Thai medical authorities have first hand experience with contagion viruses like bird flu ,so they are well a-where of these viruses, they are not dumb dumbs

[MobileContent]

From the looks of Mode Sathorn hotel's website, I sort of doubt that immigration selected what appears to be a rather high-end hotel for him.

Once this story gets around, I wonder how Mode Sathorn's bookings will be looking.

I guess a No Show, as often West African's don't prepay the hotels.

They will send an email to hundreds of hotels and receive 10% back as confirmed. They use this email confirmation to apply a tourist visa with a copy of their ticket.

We run several hotel reservation websites and get daily those emails from Mr. Marshal, Abucha etc that need 5-10 rooms.

[Chicog]

He did not plan on police escorting him there, so of course did not check in, but instead left for his actual accommodation.

Well given that the hotel should have the details on his landing card, it shouldn't take long to find him, the police as you know are very efficient in Thailand.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Another good example of why countries like Thailand and the U.S. ought to be DENYING visas and visa-exempt entries to people from the ebola hot zone countries until/unless they've passed quarantine.

As has been said here before, authorities simply cannot rely on suspected Ebola carriers from those countries to comply with voluntary regulation.

[webfact]

Thai authorities tracing Sierra Leonean believed carrying Ebola
By Digital Content



BANGKOK, Nov 24 -- Police in Sa Kaeo province are searching for Sesay Samuel, a 31 year old Sierra Leonean who escaped from health authorities in Bangkok as he is suspected of having contracted the Ebola virus disease.

Mr. Samuel's photo was distributed to immigration police at the Aranyaprathet border checkpoint in Sa Kaew province so that the authorities can identify him.

Paramilitary Rangers of the 1206th Paramilitary Company and police at Khlong Luek Station in Sa Kaeo are patrolling border areas in Aranyaprathet to block Mr Samuel from leaving the country there.

Local authorities have not, however, found any clue of his presence in the border district. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-11-24

[Bluespunk]

Another good example of why countries like Thailand and the U.S. ought to be DENYING visas and visa-exempt entries to people from the ebola hot zone countries until/unless they've passed quarantine.

As has been said here before, authorities simply cannot rely on suspected Ebola carriers from those countries to comply with voluntary regulation.

Why was he released from quarantine if he had symptoms?

This just makes no sense at all.

[monkeycountry]

Thai authorities tracing Sierra Leonean believed carrying Ebola

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Nov 24 -- Police in Sa Kaeo province are searching for Sesay Samuel, a 31 year old Sierra Leonean who escaped from health authorities in Bangkok as he is suspected of having contracted the Ebola virus disease.

Mr. Samuel's photo was distributed to immigration police at the Aranyaprathet border checkpoint in Sa Kaew province so that the authorities can identify him.

Paramilitary Rangers of the 1206th Paramilitary Company and police at Khlong Luek Station in Sa Kaeo are patrolling border areas in Aranyaprathet to block Mr Samuel from leaving the country there.

Local authorities have not, however, found any clue of his presence in the border district. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-11-24

Try lower sukhumvit tonight (on the uneven number side).

Is that official comparing the photo with the asian woman in the line?

[monkeycountry]

Another good example of why countries like Thailand and the U.S. ought to be DENYING visas and visa-exempt entries to people from the ebola hot zone countries until/unless they've passed quarantine.

As has been said here before, authorities simply cannot rely on suspected Ebola carriers from those countries to comply with voluntary regulation.

Why was he released from quarantine if he had symptoms?

This just makes no sense at all.

Did you not just answer you own question?

[kannot]

anyone see the Panorama documentary on the BBC, they followed an English doctor for a month when he went to help at one of the clinics treating ebola patients - it was absolutely horrifying and extremely emotional

as for the OP - you just have to wonder what on earth is going on, I'll put it down to bad reporting for the moment, supposing his temp was up and sweating a little - there are many reasons why - he could even have been carrying drugs internally that ruptured - who knows

If you want to help medicine san frontier are in the thick of it, you can donate online

http://www.msf.org.uk/ebola?gclid=CPD8p_71ksICFVgljgoddC0Adg

[mok199]

hahaah...he's telling all the ladies ''im a famous foorballer/ rapper.....spreddin the love.......he should be shot when he is caught..the selfish A hole

[mok199]

he's cruisin the bars telling all the ladies he is a famous footballer/rapper.spreading the love...<deleted> loser....

Edited November 24, 2014 by metisdead
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[RustBucket]

He's got Ebola and he hasnt reported?

He's probably dead guys.

D'oh!!

Or

he never had it in the first place,

knows he has no symptoms

suspects the reason for the concern around him is his nationality............... and the hue of his skin.

Really?

Why was he singled out when he was travelling with 10 friends?

Probably because he was running a high temperature which is what they do to monitor it initially at the airports (including the US).

So chances are your attempt at the race card falls flat on its arse.

What colour people do you expect to travel from Sierra Leone?

If he had the symptoms don't you think he would have been kept in quarantine?

Just taking him to a hotel and saying stay there.

Nah.

Not buying it at all.

You think the bizarre way Thais do things is unusual? I would say if Thais did anything that wasn't classed as unusual it would be bizarre.

Anyway.... It is not US who are saying he was 'suspected' of having ebola..... It is the 'authorities' themselves....... So?

Is it at all surprising that people are raising the question 'Why wasn't he detained until tests were proven negative'?

Edited November 24, 2014 by RustBucket

[MockingJay]

Well done! Heads rolling? Bet no!

[Travelman868]

Did his 10 friends stay there as well or did they just put that hotel on the immigration form? A group arrival from Sierra Leone, possibly suspicious in and of itself. i guess they might have some legitimate purpose for a visit but ....?

The hotel is next door to Surasak BTS, so he could be anywhere, quickly.

The world is supplying Medical Aid to help Sierra Leone with this crisis yet this group are more interested in getting their jollies in Thailand and if

any of them are infected they don't care.

Having said that the airport authorities are not very bright.

[CantSpell]

Thailand, hub of the daily "&lt;deleted&gt; is going on" moments

[ratcatcher]

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Hey Norman &lt;deleted&gt; was that all about? 3 posts as well?

[phantomfiddler]

Luckily Bangkok is renowned for the lack of exchange of bodily fluids, so we should all be OK but if this proves to be untrue, we are all ***ked

[Sheryl]

This is more than likely a case of inaccurate reporting, I would bet he was identified at the airport as someone who has come from an ebola area, therefore the health services would keep in contact with him for 21 days to see if he actually developed symptoms. He has most likely failed to keep contact

Agree,

It seems to day he was detained for 2 days somewhere under the jurisdiction of the MoPH Communicable Disease div which then released him with instructions to check in daily. That strongly suggests he at that time had no symptoms and tested negative for the virus, they would have hospitalized him otherwise.

it is standard precaution to follow up people who show no signs of the disease but were possibly exposed to it under observation for 21 days, the maximum possible incubation period.

So what we likely have is just one of those and he has failed to check in with them. Hardly a "suspected Ebola case"...juts someone they would have liked to keepo tabs on as a precaution.

Bear in mind people infected with Ebola are not infectious until symoptomatic.

[maidee]

should we hope he has ebola and go visit many many massage palaces ?

Edited November 24, 2014 by maidee

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Bear in mind people infected with Ebola are not infectious until symoptomatic.

Sheryl, this is more your territory than mine. But from what I've read, I'm not sure what you're saying is entirely correct.

And specifically, I'm thinking back to a recent report in the JAMA journal by some WHO researchers who did a breakdown on symptomology of those who ended up being confirmed Ebola cases in Africa.

Fever seems to be the most commonly accepted early symptom indicator for Ebola. And yet according to that report in JAMA, something like 12 or 13% of the confirmed Ebola cases in their study showed no fever symptoms at all.

The implication of that would seem to be that a person could be infected with Ebola and contagious but not have any fever symptoms that often are used as the tell-tale first indicator. As best as I recall, though, you couldn't quite tell from that study whether those Ebola patients who had no fever symptoms were showing other initial symptoms instead, and if so, what they were.

Edited November 24, 2014 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Beng]

....never checked in ! Great news.

[uptheos]

should we hope he has ebola and go visit many many massage palaces ?

What a ridiculous post, does your mum know you're up?

[surangw]

soon all black persons in thailand will be suspected carriers .

[Jonmarleesco]

Is it any wonder quarantine is seen as the only viable answer?

[Jonmarleesco]

This is more than likely a case of inaccurate reporting, I would bet he was identified at the airport as someone who has come from an ebola area, therefore the health services would keep in contact with him for 21 days to see if he actually developed symptoms. He has most likely failed to keep contact

Agree,

It seems to day he was detained for 2 days somewhere under the jurisdiction of the MoPH Communicable Disease div which then released him with instructions to check in daily. That strongly suggests he at that time had no symptoms and tested negative for the virus, they would have hospitalized him otherwise.

it is standard precaution to follow up people who show no signs of the disease but were possibly exposed to it under observation for 21 days, the maximum possible incubation period.

So what we likely have is just one of those and he has failed to check in with them. Hardly a "suspected Ebola case"...juts someone they would have liked to keepo tabs on as a precaution.

Bear in mind people infected with Ebola are not infectious until symoptomatic.

'Bear in mind people infected with Ebola are not infectious until symoptomatic.' That is something I for one would not be prepared to take for granted, particularly given most diseases are past the infectious stage by the time symptoms do show.

[RTH10260]

Are the Thai officials that escorted the person in quarantine yet ?

Sharing a taxi with a possible Ebola infected person would be inviting death IMHO

One cough in an enclosed space ..

With this sort of shambolic response, it's only a matter of time before we have a full-on epidemic in Thailand.

And how are they going to respond ?

By some more amulets of course !

Only concerned with the official escort? How about the poor taxi driver?

ps. Ebola is not contagious until the symptoms like fever are showing. Even then the first days are not yet hazardous until a full onset with all nasty effects.

[Thai at Heart]

Bear in mind people infected with Ebola are not infectious until symoptomatic.

Sheryl, this is more your territory than mine. But from what I've read, I'm not sure what you're saying is entirely correct.

And specifically, I'm thinking back to a recent report in the JAMA journal by some WHO researchers who did a breakdown on symptomology of those who ended up being confirmed Ebola cases in Africa.

Fever seems to be the most commonly accepted early symptom indicator for Ebola. And yet according to that report in JAMA, something like 12 or 13% of the confirmed Ebola cases in their study showed no fever symptoms at all.

The implication of that would seem to be that a person could be infected with Ebola and contagious but not have any fever symptoms that often are used as the tell-tale first indicator. As best as I recall, though, you couldn't quite tell from that study whether those Ebola patients who had no fever symptoms were showing other initial symptoms instead, and if so, what they were.

From what I've read over here, even if someone has a fever it is still pretty hard to spread it around unless in close proximity or really coughing and spluttering.

In which case u would probably take to your bed with apparent flu and probably never get up again. This all said, hope he has just gone on his merry way and is fine.

Because if he is holed up somwhere slowly bleeding to death, this will turn into a massive problem

[retsdon]

If this bloke was exhibiting no symptoms, tested negative, and was only being asked to report as a precaution. - why on earth would the authorities authorize a nationwide manhunt for a 'possible ebola patient' via the national media? What - it never occurred to them that there would be just a smidgen of alarm at the notion of someone with Ebola gadding about Bangkok? Any black man who so much as coughs is likely to find that he's cleared the street within twenty yards of himself...