cup-O-coffee Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 " UNFAIR " says Brown family, ( with probably 450 blood relatives on welfare ), because we don't gets no money and my chilrens hungry ! I'm just getting over Michael Jackson's death and now this. I don't know if I should laugh or cry ? Any suggestions ? We needed a post that truly exemplifies why African Americans feel discriminated against. Probably 450 blood relatives on welfare? Getting over MJ's death? "We don't gets no money"? Chilren? I'd report this post as offensive, but it serves better as an example. I hope it is not deleted. This is an unfair assumption, in my view, as this poster has expressed truths in an uneducated fashion, but the truths should not be thrown out with the bath water. Not everyone can express their frustrations about these truths (stated above, and to name only a very few of many) regarding the behavior and attitude of the inner-city blacks in the USA, and do so in a fashion that loses all of its emotion and sincerity without being labeled as a racist or some other ill-placed word. The fact is, this post is done in a normal and natural fashion, and the raw emotion of it should be taken seriously and not as a joke. I understand completely what this poster meant, and I did not let the sarcasm taint the truth. Many many educated people of all stations in life have expressed their disgust and frustration of the attitudes and behaviors of the blacks in the USA and still nothing changes, so what you are implying as an alternative to sounding "reportable" in expressing truths and truthful, raw emotion, does not seem to have any effect whether or not it is expressed either way. I have no problem excusing the tone of this post, as the poster is not just coming from a riot, holding a flat screen TV and wiping the ashes off his sleeves from the police car he set aflame, and the blood off his shoes from kicking in the head of a white man, who simply wanted to get in to the pancake house and have breakfast. He's simply fed up and venting a bit, but the regrettable thing for the blacks is that his sarcasm is a parody of the truth. Sincere respect to you Seastallion This is only my take on this, but I also understand your view, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lokie Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) 18 year old man commits crime Police Officer attempts to detain suspected perp, Perp does not follow officers instructions Perp assualts officer Officer draws weapon Officer gives warning to comply Perp ignores warning and continues to assualt Officer shoots Perp runs Officer gives warning again Perp turns back towards officer, reaches towards waistband and starts to charge towards officer Officer shoots again Perp still advances in threatening manner Officer shoots again Perp is dead Outcome: Robber killed by Police officer while resisting arrest - case closed, next! As for the underlying race issues in the US thats another matter, but sure some people need to take responsibility for themselves first. And the people who gave false witness statements about the actual shooting and how it went down should be arrested and tried for perverting justice. (Im from UK by the way and the London riots a few years back just the same excuse to cause some chaos and commit arson and robbery of decent peoples property with the race card excuse. Edited November 27, 2014 by Lokie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loongdavid Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Yet another great reason why some police departments are issuing individual shoulder mounted video cameras to each patrol officer. These cameras are set to record continuously with sound for 90mins and then record over the top again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 18 year old man commits crime Police Officer attempts to detain suspected perp, Perp does not follow officers instructions Perp assualts officer Officer draws weapon Officer gives warning to comply Perp ignores warning and continues to assualt Officer shoots Perp runs Officer gives warning again Perp turns back towards officer, reaches towards waistband and starts to charge towards officer Officer shoots again Perp still advances in threatening manner Officer shoots again Perp is dead Outcome: Robber killed by Police officer while resisting arrest - case closed, next! As for the underlying race issues in the US thats another matter, but sure some people need to take responsibility for themselves first. And the people who gave false witness statements about the actual shooting and how it went down should be arrested and tried for perverting justice. (Im from UK by the way and the London riots a few years back just the same excuse to cause some chaos and commit arson and robbery of decent peoples property with the race card excuse. There are witnesses who also claim they didn't hear the police officer shout any verbal warnings after the first shots. That's why a proper open trial was more desirable giving lawyers the opportunity to cross-examine witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokie Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 18 year old man commits crime Police Officer attempts to detain suspected perp, Perp does not follow officers instructions Perp assualts officer Officer draws weapon Officer gives warning to comply Perp ignores warning and continues to assualt Officer shoots Perp runs Officer gives warning again Perp turns back towards officer, reaches towards waistband and starts to charge towards officer Officer shoots again Perp still advances in threatening manner Officer shoots again Perp is dead Outcome: Robber killed by Police officer while resisting arrest - case closed, next! As for the underlying race issues in the US thats another matter, but sure some people need to take responsibility for themselves first. And the people who gave false witness statements about the actual shooting and how it went down should be arrested and tried for perverting justice. (Im from UK by the way and the London riots a few years back just the same excuse to cause some chaos and commit arson and robbery of decent peoples property with the race card excuse. There are witnesses who also claim they didn't hear the police officer shout any verbal warnings after the first shots. That's why a proper open trial was more desirable giving lawyers the opportunity to cross-examine witnesses. Yep, they also said the officer shot him in the back (err no he did not) his arms was in the air in surrender (err no they was not) covered them above as in arrest them for giving false evidence statements, have I missed anything else? When you commit a crime and refuse to comply with an armed police officer's instructions - You may get shot!! Is a pretty easy thing to work out no? All the other stuff around this is B S. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hawker9000 Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 Orchestrated race baiting leads to well rehearsed and choreographed rioting. Not to mention a chance to loot the latest electronic gadgets that looters can't be bothered to work for. This is where half a century of "equal opportunity", "affirmative action", "diversity", quotas, preferences, bottomless welfare, and black exceptionalism have gotten us. Blacks must be allowed to commit crimes, police not allowed to enforce the law & assaulted if they try, and subjected to mob justice if they manage to defend themselves. 'Not getting their way, they burn down the town. Thank-you, Al Sharpton. Thank-you, Eric Holder. Thank-you, Barack. It gets worse before it gets better, folks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 A jury will make mistakes some times. Remember the O J Simson trial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup-O-coffee Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 18 year old man commits crime Police Officer attempts to detain suspected perp, Perp does not follow officers instructions Perp assualts officer Officer draws weapon Officer gives warning to comply Perp ignores warning and continues to assualt Officer shoots Perp runs Officer gives warning again Perp turns back towards officer, reaches towards waistband and starts to charge towards officer Officer shoots again Perp still advances in threatening manner Officer shoots again Perp is dead Outcome: Robber killed by Police officer while resisting arrest - case closed, next! As for the underlying race issues in the US thats another matter, but sure some people need to take responsibility for themselves first. And the people who gave false witness statements about the actual shooting and how it went down should be arrested and tried for perverting justice. (Im from UK by the way and the London riots a few years back just the same excuse to cause some chaos and commit arson and robbery of decent peoples property with the race card excuse. There are witnesses who also claim they didn't hear the police officer shout any verbal warnings after the first shots. That's why a proper open trial was more desirable giving lawyers the opportunity to cross-examine witnesses. Yep, they also said the officer shot him in the back (err no he did not) his arms was in the air in surrender (err no they was not) covered them above as in arrest them for giving false evidence statements, have I missed anything else? When you commit a crime and refuse to comply with an armed police officer's instructions - You may get shot!! Is a pretty easy thing to work out no? All the other stuff around this is B S. Moreover... regarding complying with the law, I believe the Commander in Chief, the Black President elected by the Black people, and for the Black people, told these Black people to not resort to Black on White violence... yet they went right out and committed acts of Black on White violence, as well as further violence against their local law enforcement anyway. This does not address the uncountable hate-speech crimes the Black people have said to the world since that time either. If black people cannot honor the request of their Black President, and whereby this request was specifically aimed at Black people, then what makes anyone, who is not Black, think that Black people will listen to particularly a white officer the next time the white officer responds to a 911 call in an area soley occupied by Blacks; ...much less the Black person in the act of, or running from the scene of the response? Regrettably, the more the Black people talk the talk and supercharge the situation with threats and taunts, and back down and do not carry out with their threats, the more foolish they will look to each other. Hence the only solution is to add elements of incitement to get them to carry out the threats and retain their sense of importance and "manhood". Point being: The more the black people take a soluble situation, and ignorantly and stubbornly turn it into an unsoluble situation, the more mess will be on their hands. Having the media on your side matters when acting like a child and acting out hatred towards others, but when the child begins attacking their government (mommy and daddy), I believe the definition of that is revolution. Apparently the blacks are getting away with burning government and private property for now, but if they keep this up, they may end up burning a few bridges along with it, and really put themselves in a place where there is no returning to the things they had. I truly hope this does not happen, but the next officer to go down in a black community will be the beginning of the end for a lot of things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hawker9000 Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 A jury will make mistakes some times. Remember the O J Simson trial! This was a grand jury. It only had to meet a minimal standard of "reasonable belief" (that a crime has been committed). After SIXTY witnesses, it couldn't bring in even an indictment of manslaughter to that standard. The "mistake" was made NOT by this jury, and NOT by the police officer, but by this brute thief teenager who should've been raised better - and perhaps by a few racially motivated lying witnesses who tried to subvert justice but were thankfully thwarted by more numerous witnesses who came forward (despite racial animus no doubt) to tell the truth. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 "Lawyers for Mr Brown's family have denounced the grand jury's decision as "unfair". Life is a series of "unfair", get over it. When it happens to your next of kin I am sure it will be very easy to "get over it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loongdavid Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) "Lawyers for Mr Brown's family have denounced the grand jury's decision as "unfair". Life is a series of "unfair", get over it. When it happens to your next of kin I am sure it will be very easy to "get over it" Not a snowballs chance in hell! I can guarantee that my next of kin (or any family member for that matter) had / have far more intelligence than to go out on a public street carrying a weapon. Go out with a gun and ignore instructions from a police officer and you can expect to get shot, simple as that. P.S. Note the word 'intelligence'. Edited November 27, 2014 by loongdavid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 A jury will make mistakes some times. Remember the O J Simson trial! And do you recall the tens of thousands of white people who went rioting in the streets to avenge the deaths of those two white people? Naw --- I don't either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 It was "unfair" for Michael Brown to violently rob a shopkeeper and attack a policeman, but he has paid the price. Yet why didn't the cop use his flashlight or night stick? Because police officers are not trained martial artists and could easily be hurt or killed by a bigger, stronger, faster of more trained opponent. A gun is the best weapon for self defense or bringing criminals to justice ad that is what Officer Wilson was trained to use in a situation like this. And it is also what the Missouri statute says that a police office can do in defense of his life... should any AG or president care to read the law... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 "Lawyers for Mr Brown's family have denounced the grand jury's decision as "unfair". Life is a series of "unfair", get over it. When it happens to your next of kin I am sure it will be very easy to "get over it" Not a snowballs chance in hell! I can guarantee that my next of kin (or any family member for that matter) had / have far more intelligence than to go out on a public street carrying a weapon. Go out with a gun and ignore instructions from a police officer and you can expect to get shot, simple as that. P.S. Note the word 'intelligence'. Well noted the word intelligence, as per your request. Remember, accidents have happened to many intelligent and confident people too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulysses G. Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 Attacking an armed police officer is not an accident. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon022 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 All psychopaths have a clean conscious, because according to research, they are unable to feel guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Attacking an armed police officer is not an accident. More like an act of stupidity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 All psychopaths have a clean conscious, because according to research, they are unable to feel guilt. Innocence can also result in a clean conscience, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 " UNFAIR " says Brown family, ( with probably 450 blood relatives on welfare ), because we don't gets no money and my chilrens hungry ! I'm just getting over Michael Jackson's death and now this. I don't know if I should laugh or cry ? Any suggestions ? We needed a post that truly exemplifies why African Americans feel discriminated against. Probably 450 blood relatives on welfare? Getting over MJ's death? "We don't gets no money"? Chilren? I'd report this post as offensive, but it serves better as an example. I hope it is not deleted. Why is it offensive, is it not a right of saying what you believe, nobody was hurt by what he said I'd expect that sort of incomprehension from white, product of incest, uneducated, obese, Fox News and wrestling viewer, beer guzzling trailer trash. But nobody here is like that, thankfully. Can you see the deliberate irony there? Cant you see that the riot was motivated more by colour and not the crime, open your eyes, and read many of the other posts, who have their eyes open 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted November 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2014 Some perspective, watch he video! http://conservativetribune.com/police-black-crime/ or here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncRGoqNUb1w 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Some perspective, watch he video! http://conservativetribune.com/police-black-crime/ or here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncRGoqNUb1w GJ: Thanks for making this post. It needs to be on this page also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cup-O-coffee Posted November 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2014 GJ: Thanks for making this post. It needs to be on this page also. The President needs to see this video, and use the man's words as the blueprint for his next speech. The look on those two black ladies in the background couldn't even maintain their righteousness when the man got upset. They had to look away. Sick people. Just damn sick. Drive by shooting of a five year old toddler. I never thought of it... the very reverend Sharpton and Mr. Obama can remember the last three people shot by police, but they cannot remember the last three black homicide victims: shot by black people. I really feel for that police officer, and that is rare. When an officer of the law reacts that way, it is a good pulse on the severity of the situation within the law enforcement community. It tells me that they must be feeling sickened from listening to all the politicians and idiots out there who ignore the very fact of what this man said: “I was on my phone, that’s true,” Flynn began. “I was following developments with a 5-year-old little girl, sitting on her dad’s lap who just got shot in the head by a drive by shooting.” Then his demeanor changed, and Flynn appeared visibly upset by the words he had just spoken. “If some of the people here gave a good ******* about the victimization of people in this community by crime, I’d take some of their invective more seriously.” Then Flynn turned his righteous anger toward the race baiters, who were trying to use every event a to call white officers racist. “The greatest racial disparity in the city of Milwaukee is getting shot and killed, hello! 80 percent of my homicide victims every year are African American. 80 percent of our aggravated assault victims are African American.” He tore into the the people trying to use a police-involved shooting to push an agenda, instead of facing the real crime that is happening all around them. “Now, they know all about the last three people that have been killed by the Milwaukee police department over the course of the last several years,” the upset Flynn stated. “There’s not one of them, can name one of the last three homicide victims we’ve had in this city.” He continued: “This city is at risk all right — but it’s not because men and women in blue risk their lives protecting it.” The veteran officer then tried to calm himself before finishing up with one final point. “We’re going up there, and there’s a bunch of cops processing the scene of a dead kid. And they’re the ones that are gonna be out there patrolling and stopping suspects that might have guns under the front seat. They’re the ones that are gonna take the risk to their lives, to try to clean this thing up.” The video is a moving reminder that it is easy to criticize the police — but the reality is, they are the ones who face crime and violence on a daily basis, so that others don’t have to. I wonder... is Sharpton getting a phone call about the little toddler shot by Black gangstas? How about Obama? Is Obama getting a phone call about the little toddler shot by Black gangstas? Nah! I didn't think so. RIP to that little girl and sympathy to the family. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The Ferguson protests have also spread to our good friends from the north, Toronto, Canada. They issued protest instructions that must have been drawn straight from the Hamas playbook. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PROTEST RULES: White Michael Brown Protesters Told To Serve As Human Shields For Black Protesters 6:02 PM 11/27/2014 PATRICK HOWLEY “WHITE/NON BLACK ALLIES” were addressed in information disseminated by “Black Lives Matter” Toronto protest organizers in advance of demonstrations that began in the city Tuesday night after the Ferguson, Mo., grand jury exonerated police officer Darren Wilson. <<from the article>> “Refrain from speaking to the media. Black voices are crucial to this.” “Stand behind black folks or between us and the police.” “If you see a cop harassing a black person, come in and engage. (chances are they are least likely to arrest you),” the rules stated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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