Sydney siege: Gunman takes hostages in Lindt cafe

[transam]

Here's a rather large coincidence. The head of Sydney's Halal certification board and his wife were seen leaving the Lindt cafe just an hour before the gunman stormed in. The Cafe has refused to pay Halal certification Jizya and what happens? The parallels between the modus opperendi of the Mafia and political Islam are indeed remarkable.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/halal-certification-boss-widely-reported-as-having-left-sydney-cafe-just-before-jihad-siege-began-now-denies-having-been-there

The gunman didn't "storm in", an ex lawyer of his has been reported as noticing the guy having a coffee when he went into the cafe, briefly conversed with him and peacefully departed.

The facts are currently unknown as to what really triggered the armed takeover of the cafe. However, it has been widely reported his final appeal against a harrassement conviction about which he was obsessed, was finally rejected by the High Court on the Friday, the hostage event was on the following Monday.

When I go for a coffee, I always take a shotgun too...............

[H1w4yR1da]

And lone wolf my arse!

" The bearded man was with two others who were similarly dressed."

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/the-man-who-bumped-into-a-gunman-behind-lindt-cafe-siege-and-was-threatened-with-being-shot/story-fnl2dlu7-1227156623104?nk=b6f1f07e1031361db56c6147d5db93e3

[sustento]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-siege-muslim-funeral-directors-tell-authorities-to-dump-man-haron-monis-body-in-the-shouse-9935176.html

[Kooweerup]

Man Haron Monis lawyers and judges receive death threats and other abuse.

New South Wales lawyers and judges who were part of court hearings involving Man Haron Monis have faced death threats and other abuse.

In a statement on Friday the president of the NSW Bar Association, Jane Needham SC, said she was concerned members of the judiciary were being targeted owing to their part in proceedings that involved Monis, who was shot dead after a 16-hour siege in Martin Place.

She also warned against further amendments to bail laws and said calls for them were premature after a review and changes that are due to come into force in January.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/dec/19/man-haron-monis-lawyers-and-judges-receive-death-threats-and-other-abuse

[Kooweerup]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-siege-muslim-funeral-directors-tell-authorities-to-dump-man-haron-monis-body-in-the-shouse-9935176.html

It appears nobody has claimed the body and it is already to late for him to receive a proper Islamic funeral as time has slipped by. The tax payer will have to foot the bill to dispose of the body. Turn it into pig food would be a fitting farewell to such a man.

[Schmackos]

There must have been someone in Australia that could have been tortured to find out about the intentions of this lunatic and so head off this tragedy.

Huh ???

[Schmackos]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-siege-muslim-funeral-directors-tell-authorities-to-dump-man-haron-monis-body-in-the-shouse-9935176.html

It appears nobody has claimed the body and it is already to late for him to receive a proper Islamic funeral as time has slipped by. The tax payer will have to foot the bill to dispose of the body. Turn it into pig food would be a fitting farewell to such a man.

Is it true that the gunman's girlfriend is in Jail for the Murder of the gunman's wife?

Edited December 19, 2014 by Schmackos

[simple1]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/sydney-siege-muslim-funeral-directors-tell-authorities-to-dump-man-haron-monis-body-in-the-shouse-9935176.html

It appears nobody has claimed the body and it is already to late for him to receive a proper Islamic funeral as time has slipped by. The tax payer will have to foot the bill to dispose of the body. Turn it into pig food would be a fitting farewell to such a man.

Is it true that the gunman's girlfriend is in Jail for the Murder of the gunman's wife?

No, she's been on bail for approx one year awaiting Court. GF was also involved in his anti Western activities as well other matters.

[H1w4yR1da]

Due to a possible non-compliance to Halal certification issue regarding this event, a boycott of Halal certified goods would be proper I reckon.

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html

[H1w4yR1da]

"Only a fool would persist with the notion that this was a “lone wolf” attack. There are too many open links to Islamic support from Sydney’s west and the links extend to the heart of Green/Left operatives embedded in the Public Service."

http://pickeringpost.com/story/inquiry-will-show-wide-islamic-support-for-terrorist/4283

[simple1]

"Only a fool would persist with the notion that this was a “lone wolf” attack. There are too many open links to Islamic support from Sydney’s west and the links extend to the heart of Green/Left operatives embedded in the Public Service."

http://pickeringpost.com/story/inquiry-will-show-wide-islamic-support-for-terrorist/4283

Try a different source to Pickering. He is not respected as a commentator in Oz. Amongst other issues he has been accused of being "an inveterate liar, a bankrupt conman with a seedy history of fleecing the gullible of millions of dollars while not paying his own bills".

http://www.smh.com.au/business/larry-pickering--the-conman-stalking-gillard-20120820-24hxi.html

[H1w4yR1da]

Doesn't necessarily make the info in my link false.

Forever the apologist, eh?

[simple1]

Doesn't necessarily make the info in my link false.

Forever the apologist, eh?

No I am not an apologist, but really interested in the background, facts surrounding this incident and any related activity by Oz government to increase the future security of Australia.

Your link contains some outright misinformation e.g. Legal Aid is available for a High Court appeal, whereas the blog claims this is not so. If he gets such basic info incorrect how can you trust anything else he has to say.

http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/about/Policies-and-procedures/Grants-handbook/What-do-we-fund/Criminal-law/Criminal-law-appeals/Pages/High-Court-of-Australia.aspx

Rather than seeking out uninformed statements that you obviously have not bothered to check out, why not wait until the report is released in the coming months. Although legisalation has recently been tightened up (e.g. NSW Bail Act) I'm fairly sure the report will prove an embarrasement to a number of government agencies.

Edited December 20, 2014 by simple1

[Steely Dan]

Due to a possible non-compliance to Halal certification issue regarding this event, a boycott of Halal certified goods would be proper I reckon.

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html

Lindt not only refused Halal certification, but were quite forthright in doing so, which apparently persuaded some other companies to follow suit, costing the Halal protection racket to lose money. No prizes for guessing where some of the money went.

http://www.qsociety.org.au/halalcertification.htm

Edited December 20, 2014 by Steely Dan

[H1w4yR1da]

Your link contains some outright misinformation e.g. Legal Aid is available for a High Court appeal, whereas the blog claims this is not so. If he gets such basic info incorrect how can you trust anything else he has to say.

More trustworthy than say someone who goes to any length to defend Islam.

It's irrelevant anyway as apparently the terrorist hired a law firm.

"A subpoena on the bank records of Chris Murphy’s law firm will show who financed the terrorist’s appeal to the High Court."

I wonder where he got the 50k from?

[Steely Dan]

"Only a fool would persist with the notion that this was a “lone wolf” attack. There are too many open links to Islamic support from Sydney’s west and the links extend to the heart of Green/Left operatives embedded in the Public Service."

http://pickeringpost.com/story/inquiry-will-show-wide-islamic-support-for-terrorist/4283

Try a different source to Pickering. He is not respected as a commentator in Oz. Amongst other issues he has been accused of being "an inveterate liar, a bankrupt conman with a seedy history of fleecing the gullible of millions of dollars while not paying his own bills".

http://www.smh.com.au/business/larry-pickering--the-conman-stalking-gillard-20120820-24hxi.html

The lone wolf had 14,000 likes on Facebook, the tiny minority meme is as discredited as the lone wolf meme. #Beingtakenforaride.

[Bwanatickey]

The autopsy results of the three deceased should reveal what bullets where found in each one.

What weapon fired the round.

[Kooweerup]

Your link contains some outright misinformation e.g. Legal Aid is available for a High Court appeal, whereas the blog claims this is not so. If he gets such basic info incorrect how can you trust anything else he has to say.

More trustworthy than say someone who goes to any length to defend Islam.

It's irrelevant anyway as apparently the terrorist hired a law firm.

"A subpoena on the bank records of Chris Murphy’s law firm will show who financed the terrorist’s appeal to the High Court."

I wonder where he got the 50k from?

The Australian tax payer funded his legal bills just as they funded his lifestyle since he arrived as a refugee.

Sydney siege gunman Man Haron Monis cost taxpayers $120,000 in Legal Aid court appeals

THE Sydney siege killer cost taxpayers an estimated $120,000 to run his failed appeals against convictions for sending hateful letters to bereaved families of fallen Australian soldiers.

Deranged self-appointed cleric Man Haron Monis twice took his case to the High Court, seeking to overturn his conviction, which ordered he undertake 300 hours of community service for posting taunting letters and DVDs to grieving families of seven Diggers killed in Afghanistan and an Australian diplomat killed in a Jakarta terrorist bombing.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/sydney-siege-gunman-man-haron-monis-cost-taxpayers-120000-in-legal-aid-court-appeals/story-fni0fiyv-1227159890060

[NeverSure]

Frankly i agree with you to an extent. The west should just let the muslim world get on with wiping each other out. All western intervention, aid, business, diplomatic missons etc should be withdrawn and just let them get on with it. Give them 50 years on their own and they will be back where they were 1500 years ago.

Unfortunately a lot of other people get in the way.

Unfortunately they keep coming to where we are. They commit acts of terrorism on our soil. Then once here they outbreed us. Some countries have outrageous immigration policies that let them just waltz in and begin to disrupt the native society.

I have no sympathy for them at all.

9/11. Never forget.

[simple1]

Your link contains some outright misinformation e.g. Legal Aid is available for a High Court appeal, whereas the blog claims this is not so. If he gets such basic info incorrect how can you trust anything else he has to say.

More trustworthy than say someone who goes to any length to defend Islam.

It's irrelevant anyway as apparently the terrorist hired a law firm.

"A subpoena on the bank records of Chris Murphy’s law firm will show who financed the terrorist’s appeal to the High Court."

I wonder where he got the 50k from?

As already stated the killer had access to Legal Aid to fund his appeal. I'm sure you are interested in the truth of matters, so rather than repeating unsubstantiated allegations do some fact checking.

Chris Murphy is a well know Sydney based lawyer who takes on controversial briefs; often related to criminal matters. However, in reference to the killer, Murphy only briefly represented him back in 2009 for a variation of bail conditions for the mail harassment charges.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/gunman-man-haron-monis-barristers-caught-up-in-the-tragedy/story-fnl2dlu7-1227159985016

EDIT: Should anyone be interested a good insight into the killers background, activities after arriving in Australia, Court cases etc is at:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/sydney-siege-inside-the-mind-of-cbd-terrorist-man-haron-monis/story-e6frg6z6-1227162502613

Edited December 20, 2014 by simple1

[chuckd]

Your link contains some outright misinformation e.g. Legal Aid is available for a High Court appeal, whereas the blog claims this is not so. If he gets such basic info incorrect how can you trust anything else he has to say.

More trustworthy than say someone who goes to any length to defend Islam.

It's irrelevant anyway as apparently the terrorist hired a law firm.

"A subpoena on the bank records of Chris Murphy’s law firm will show who financed the terrorist’s appeal to the High Court."

I wonder where he got the 50k from?

As already stated the killer had access to Legal Aid to fund his appeal. I'm sure you are interested in the truth of matters, so rather than repeating unsubstantiated allegations do some fact checking.

Chris Murphy is a well know Sydney based lawyer who takes on controversial briefs; often related to criminal matters. However, in reference to the killer, Murphy only briefly represented him back in 2009 for a variation of bail conditions for the mail harassment charges.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/gunman-man-haron-monis-barristers-caught-up-in-the-tragedy/story-fnl2dlu7-1227159985016

EDIT: Should anyone be interested a good insight into the killers background, activities after arriving in Australia, Court cases etc is at:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/sydney-siege-inside-the-mind-of-cbd-terrorist-man-haron-monis/story-e6frg6z6-1227162502613

Sadly, when I click your link to the Australian article, I get this message:

"YOU'VE REACHED A SUBSCRIBER-ONLY ARTICLE."

[simple1]

As already stated the killer had access to Legal Aid to fund his appeal. I'm sure you are interested in the truth of matters, so rather than repeating unsubstantiated allegations do some fact checking.

Chris Murphy is a well know Sydney based lawyer who takes on controversial briefs; often related to criminal matters. However, in reference to the killer, Murphy only briefly represented him back in 2009 for a variation of bail conditions for the mail harassment charges.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/gunman-man-haron-monis-barristers-caught-up-in-the-tragedy/story-fnl2dlu7-1227159985016

EDIT: Should anyone be interested a good insight into the killers background, activities after arriving in Australia, Court cases etc is at:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/sydney-siege-inside-the-mind-of-cbd-terrorist-man-haron-monis/story-e6frg6z6-1227162502613

Sadly, when I click your link to the Australian article, I get this message:

"YOU'VE REACHED A SUBSCRIBER-ONLY ARTICLE."

Posts removed to enable reply.

Sorry, link was open access this AM. Try Google search "Sydney siege: inside the mind of CBD terrorist Man Haron Monis"

[chuckd]

As already stated the killer had access to Legal Aid to fund his appeal. I'm sure you are interested in the truth of matters, so rather than repeating unsubstantiated allegations do some fact checking.

Chris Murphy is a well know Sydney based lawyer who takes on controversial briefs; often related to criminal matters. However, in reference to the killer, Murphy only briefly represented him back in 2009 for a variation of bail conditions for the mail harassment charges.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/gunman-man-haron-monis-barristers-caught-up-in-the-tragedy/story-fnl2dlu7-1227159985016

EDIT: Should anyone be interested a good insight into the killers background, activities after arriving in Australia, Court cases etc is at:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/sydney-siege-inside-the-mind-of-cbd-terrorist-man-haron-monis/story-e6frg6z6-1227162502613

Sadly, when I click your link to the Australian article, I get this message:

"YOU'VE REACHED A SUBSCRIBER-ONLY ARTICLE."

Posts removed to enable reply.

Sorry, link was open access this AM. Try Google search "Sydney siege: inside the mind of CBD terrorist Man Haron Monis"

Nope. Everything I checked out leads back to the paid site of the Australian.

Nice try.

[bendejo]

Just saw an interview with a fellow going on about how wrong it was that the press jumped to the conclusion that this incident had something to do with Islam. Yeah, wonder how they got that idea. Let's see, um, oh yeah, that black flag with the creed in the window.

[canman]

Due to a possible non-compliance to Halal certification issue regarding this event, a boycott of Halal certified goods would be proper I reckon.

http://www.halalchoices.com.au/product_lists.html

And Here

www.facebook.com/BH.Australia

[simple1]

As already stated the killer had access to Legal Aid to fund his appeal. I'm sure you are interested in the truth of matters, so rather than repeating unsubstantiated allegations do some fact checking.

Chris Murphy is a well know Sydney based lawyer who takes on controversial briefs; often related to criminal matters. However, in reference to the killer, Murphy only briefly represented him back in 2009 for a variation of bail conditions for the mail harassment charges.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/gunman-man-haron-monis-barristers-caught-up-in-the-tragedy/story-fnl2dlu7-1227159985016

EDIT: Should anyone be interested a good insight into the killers background, activities after arriving in Australia, Court cases etc is at:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/sydney-siege-inside-the-mind-of-cbd-terrorist-man-haron-monis/story-e6frg6z6-1227162502613

Sadly, when I click your link to the Australian article, I get this message:

"YOU'VE REACHED A SUBSCRIBER-ONLY ARTICLE."

Posts removed to enable reply.

Sorry, link was open access this AM. Try Google search "Sydney siege: inside the mind of CBD terrorist Man Haron Monis"

Nope. Everything I checked out leads back to the paid site of the Australian.

Nice try.

Unless you've already done your own research try the URL below. Gives a fair amount of info, but not as well written as 'The Australian' article.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/dec/16/sydney-siege-gunman-man-haron-monis-the-unlikely-violent-extremist

BTW his GF is now having her bail reviewed.

[H1w4yR1da]

Looks like we got another "Aloha Snack Bar" attack.

http://news.yahoo.com/man-shouting-allahu-akbar-drives-crowd-france-injuring-211915875.html

Can't see this on TV yet.

[Jdiddy]

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2014/12/22/report-autopsy-of-sydney-siege-gunman-finds-cause/

"Autopsy of Sydney siege gunman finds cause of death was 5 police bullets to the head"

Yeah that would do it

[jacky54]

Looks like we got another "Aloha Snack Bar" attack.

http://news.yahoo.com/man-shouting-allahu-akbar-drives-crowd-france-injuring-211915875.html

Can't see this on TV yet.

Cue the usual excuses, lone nutter, not a real Muslim, Christians have done the same, most Muslims are moderates, persecution of Muslims by the west, etc etc. In fact any excuse to distance yet another Muslim killing at random from the actual truth- he was inspired by the KORAN and ISLAMIC beliefs, his yells made that clear enough.

[NeverSure]

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2014/12/22/report-autopsy-of-sydney-siege-gunman-finds-cause/

"Autopsy of Sydney siege gunman finds cause of death was 5 police bullets to the head"

Yeah that would do it

The official cause of death was lead poisoning. Probably 9mm or 5.56 NATO lead.

Edited December 22, 2014 by NeverSure