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12 dead in attack on Paris newspaper; France goes on alert

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Every publication in the world should publish the cartoon that lead to that horrible attack

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why to further incite hatred?

I see what you did there

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  • When you invite the wolf onto your farm don't start complaining when it slaughters your chickens. Religion is the root of so much evil on this planet.

  • Lone wolf attack. Absolutely nothing to do with Islam. Just nutters. No, I don't believe that either. It's just that I'd thought I'd get in first before the apologists. Just watched a video on Faceb

  • It has EVERYTHING to do with religion.It drives their actions and gives their sad lives some meaning. It's their life. They live and breathe it. How much more evidence do we need to stop the Islami

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Anyone else find it odd that the attackers made one mistake : Leaving an ID card behind?

who goes on a terrorist mission with an ID card?

One with the ID card of someone else, of course.

The "forgotten ID" is the running gag among security forces, it just means a secret service had an eye on them already.

Every publication in the world should publish the cartoon that lead to that horrible attack

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why to further incite hatred?

I see what you did there

where is the "dislike" button?

No one is forcing anyone to read anything. But someone demanding that they be respected by the barrel of a gun. That is the very essence of a bully and bullies should be stood up and one should not cower.

That is the very essence of the human spirit.

Engage them all u like, but I have no obligation to respect their views. As a human they are accorded the right to think what they like as am I. They have no right to force me to do or think anything.

I very much understand where you are coming from. I merely offer it as a strategy. One of many potential strategies. With more engagement, you probably get better at distinguishing between dialectic and personal opinion. You can test the limits of your antagonist's true thinking. Your responses to different types of intolerance can vary. I am not a trained negotiator. I have witnessed negotiators in action. Calmness and objectivity seem to be key. That is why I continue to object to the barrage of noise on these types of threads. It interferes with deliberate thought.

I don't like to repeat this story often, but since you mentioned your experience in Egypt post 9/11, I will tell you of my experience in a Muslim village during 9/11. Widely considered one of the most moderate of all Muslim places in Thailand, a quiet former fishing village in Phuket, and my home was above the village on the sea.

Like others, I watched in shock and horror the live events that from my home on CNN/BBC, when my wife returned from the village and said that the locals were at the Mosque loudly celebrating and hooting and hollering with glee. We were both disgusted by that, and I never forgot that there are elements in every one of their communities that somehow manage to maybe bully the others into acquiescence during these tragic events.

Every publication in the world should publish the cartoon that lead to that horrible attack

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why to further incite hatred?

I see what you did there

Wow

You are as clueless as a terrorist.

This cartoon portrait Mohamet being appalled at the interpretation of Islam made by idiots. Yes it is a blaspheme and people are welcome to contradict with WORDS

NOT GUNS

Because we want to live in a society with freedom of speech

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Someone draws a cartoon of a pedophile lived 1300 years ago. Killed today. Very tragic

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These murderers are not Islamic 'extremists' as most of the media claim. There is no such thing as moderate Islam for these jihadists to be extreme in comparison. There are moderate Muslims but there just is no moderate Islam. These jihadist were just being true followers of the prophet and the Koran. The millions of moderate Muslims hiding at home, quietly feeling rather pleased about the prophet being avenged, but not quite having the guts to don the combat jackets themselves, are totally irrelevant to what is going on in the world.

In the next few days we will be seing the usual crocodile tears spewed out from Islamic organizations with their taquiya calls for peace and bleatings about 'this is not Islamic', but nothing could be more Islamic than what happened in Paris. Moderates and their unelected mouthpieces need to voice their opposition to the verses in the Koran which permit and encourage these jihadist attacks, anything less is meaningless and worthless.

Islam is a supremacist, violent and uncompromising religious ideology which cannot live in peace in any western country, and few of their own. No amount of excuses, constant giving in to them or mealy mouthed word twisting can make the Koran and Islam any more compatible with western values. Islam is directly opposed to liberty, equality, fraternity as these jhadists have shown us once again.

The west waited 300 years to start opposing Islamic violence in the past, the time has come again to fight back against it, but their Trojan immigration horse is going to make it very difficult this time round.

Every publication in the world should publish the cartoon that lead to that horrible attack

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why to further incite hatred?

I see what you did there

where is the "dislike" button?

This is what CHARB CABU WOLINSKI and TIGNOUS fully aware of the risk, died for.

They wanted to say this and they accepted to die "standing for their believe, not on their knees"

and this is what "JE SUIS CHARLIE" means

Every publication in the world should publish the cartoon that lead to that horrible attack

original.jpg

why to further incite hatred?

I see what you did there

Wow

You are as clueless as a terrorist.

This cartoon portrait Mohamet being appalled at the interpretation of Islam made by idiots. Yes it is a blaspheme and people are welcome to contradict with WORDS

NOT GUNS

Because we want to live in a society with freedom of speech

I'm clueless? but its you that doesn't understand why Muslims are offend by cartoons depicting their Prophet.

well played fella.

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I'm clueless? but its you that doesn't understand why Muslims are offend by cartoons depicting their Prophet.

well played fella.

You just confirmed that you are the clueless one here.

Because we all understand why Muslims are offended.

But in Western democracies, being offended does not justify violence.

Every publication in the world should publish the cartoon that lead to that horrible attack

original.jpg

why to further incite hatred?

I see what you did there

Wow

You are as clueless as a terrorist.

This cartoon portrait Mohamet being appalled at the interpretation of Islam made by idiots. Yes it is a blaspheme and people are welcome to contradict with WORDS

NOT GUNS

Because we want to live in a society with freedom of speech

I'm clueless? but its you that doesn't understand why Muslims are offend by cartoons depicting their Prophet.

well played fella.

You still don't get it?

Charb had been the target of terrorist attack previously.

He knew he was at risk

But he believed in freedom of speech and carried on the provocation.

That's why he was killed

It was a conscious CHOICE

In this interview he said : "I prefer die standing than live on my knees"

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« C'est peut-être un peu pompeux ce que je vais dire, mais je préfère mourir debout que vivre à genoux. »
En savoir plus sur http://www.lemonde.fr/actualite-medias/article/2015/01/07/charb-je-prefere-mourir-debout-que-vivre-a-genoux_4550759_3236.html#c7dqkjE2wXfMphKi.99

I'm clueless? but its you that doesn't understand why Muslims are offend by cartoons depicting their Prophet.

well played fella.

You just confirmed that you are the clueless one here.

Because we all understand why Muslims are offended.

But in Western democracies, being offended does not justify violence.

Opps I missed the bit where I wrote being offended justifies violence.

can you show me where I said that..

I just fail to see the point in playing a stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims" It won't work - it wont solve anything - other that create more hatred - then the evil people have won..

Try to learn instead burn..

You still don't get it?

Charb had been the target of terrorist attack previously.

He knew he was at risk

But he believed in freedom of speech and carried on the provocation.

That's why he was killed

It was a conscious CHOICE

What do you mean I don't get it?

I know exactly what Charb said. It was his choice. I support him. I am as outraged by the meaningless murder as anyone else should be

As I said I don't see the point in getting involved in your stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims"

its full of fail!

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I'm clueless? but its you that doesn't understand why Muslims are offend by cartoons depicting their Prophet.

well played fella.

So they're offended. We understand perfectly. To be honest, our hard won freedoms trump their feelings of being offended. If it wasn't cartoons, it'd be something else. Gays, lack of Halal food, immodest dress etc. It'd never end.

This is the west, not some goat shagging shit hole in Pakistan. I'm offended by Islam but I don't grab an AK and visit a local mosque, do I?

The west isn't going to surrender their freedoms to the barrel of a gun not matter how many 'refugees' in the west celebrate the attack.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/01/07/hundreds-of-muslims-in-sweden-celebrate-terrorist-attack-on-charlie-hebdo-in-france-shouting-islam-will-take-over-the-world/

Britain steps up border controls at airports and ports, in response to these attacks.

I'm clueless? but its you that doesn't understand why Muslims are offend by cartoons depicting their Prophet.

well played fella.

So they're offended. We understand perfectly. To be honest, our hard won freedoms trump their feelings of being offended. If it wasn't cartoons, it'd be something else. Gays, lack of Halal food, immodest dress etc. It'd never end.

This is the west, not some goat shagging shit hole in Pakistan. I'm offended by Islam but I don't grab an AK and visit a local mosque, do I?

The west isn't going to surrender their freedoms to the barrel of a gun not matter how many 'refugees' in the west celebrate the attack.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/01/07/hundreds-of-muslims-in-sweden-celebrate-terrorist-attack-on-charlie-hebdo-in-france-shouting-islam-will-take-over-the-world/

I'm glad you are not taking to arms. I won't be either ..

I just do not see the point of playing a stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims."

Opps I missed the bit where I wrote being offended justifies violence.

can you show me where I said that..

I just fail to see the point in playing a stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims" It won't work - it wont solve anything - other that create more hatred - then the evil people have won..

Try to learn instead burn..

It's not about winding up the muslims, they wind up all religions anyway...

it's about keeping our freedom of speech and not letting any religion telling us what to say or not to say.

These people died so we could have a society with more freedom.

That's why we should thank them and especially the press by publishing what has been destroyed, to show the terrorists they have not won, like Charlie did

You still don't get it?

Charb had been the target of terrorist attack previously.

He knew he was at risk

But he believed in freedom of speech and carried on the provocation.

That's why he was killed

It was a conscious CHOICE

What do you mean I don't get it?

I know exactly what Charb said. It was his choice. I support him. I am as outraged by the meaningless murder as anyone else should be

As I said I don't see the point in getting involved in your stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims"

its full of fail!

We should not have to tip toe around their thin skin.

When Muslims say they are offended by the depiction of the Prophet as it is harem and not allowed, that's another one of their lies.

The depiction of the old devil was widespread at one time:

http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_full/

Exactly

As Chard said when asked what he would say if he could speak to a terrorist, he answered :" I would give him the Coran to read because most of them are clueless and have not even read it"

I'm clueless? but its you that doesn't understand why Muslims are offend by cartoons depicting their Prophet.

well played fella.

So they're offended. We understand perfectly. To be honest, our hard won freedoms trump their feelings of being offended. If it wasn't cartoons, it'd be something else. Gays, lack of Halal food, immodest dress etc. It'd never end.

This is the west, not some goat shagging shit hole in Pakistan. I'm offended by Islam but I don't grab an AK and visit a local mosque, do I?

The west isn't going to surrender their freedoms to the barrel of a gun not matter how many 'refugees' in the west celebrate the attack.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/01/07/hundreds-of-muslims-in-sweden-celebrate-terrorist-attack-on-charlie-hebdo-in-france-shouting-islam-will-take-over-the-world/

I'm glad you are not taking to arms. I won't be either ..

I just do not see the point of playing a stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims."

And, frankly just because well known islamophobe BONNI INTALL publishes stuff on its website doesn't make it true..

Britain steps up border controls at airports and ports, in response to these attacks.

Only about 25 years too late, they would do better paroling Luton

You still don't get it?

Charb had been the target of terrorist attack previously.

He knew he was at risk

But he believed in freedom of speech and carried on the provocation.

That's why he was killed

It was a conscious CHOICE

What do you mean I don't get it?

I know exactly what Charb said. It was his choice. I support him. I am as outraged by the meaningless murder as anyone else should be

As I said I don't see the point in getting involved in your stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims"

its full of fail!

We should not have to tip toe around their thin skin.

I totally agree Mosha, but revenge isn't going to happen on the cover-page of some rag!

Don't you see that this just drags us in their bullsheet?

We should not have to tip toe around their thin skin.

Exactly we, in Europe have fought very hard to be in a country that allows us to say what we like, and we should CHERISH this dearly.

This is what they died for, and this is what we should fight for.

You still don't get it?

Charb had been the target of terrorist attack previously.

He knew he was at risk

But he believed in freedom of speech and carried on the provocation.

That's why he was killed

It was a conscious CHOICE

What do you mean I don't get it?

I know exactly what Charb said. It was his choice. I support him. I am as outraged by the meaningless murder as anyone else should be

As I said I don't see the point in getting involved in your stupid game of "lets wind up the muslims"

its full of fail!

We should not have to tip toe around their thin skin.

I totally agree Mosha, but revenge isn't going to happen on the cover-page of some rag!

Don't you see that this just drags us in their bullsheet?

Revenge is for weak

We want peace

Radical Islam has already won, everyone is running scared, from newspapers to governments. At some point unless we actually stand up for what we believe in, Europe WILL become an islamic state in 30 years time, and that will just be the beginning.

This reminds me of a discussion I had with a very moderate Muslim in Penang 25yrs ago. He said quite bluntly " you Europeans are far to soft on Islam, in approximately 30 yrs time you will allow Muslims fanatics to take over your countries" OK his time frame is a bit out, but he was right.

Speculation they may have turned back to Paris.

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