Dog Bitten by Snake ?

[ExPratt]

One of our dogs (We have 5) came in last night on 3 legs , whining with his front right paw off the ground. When I had a look he had 2 puncture wounds on his paw pad , both had drawn blood and the puncture marks were about 10mm apart. He was quite agitated panting and breathing heavily

We brought his basket into our room so we could watch him overnight, I’ll be honest I thought we were going to lose him and was thinking about how I’d break it to the kids. Couldn’t sleep properly I was pretty much up all night and checking he was still breathing. Managed to kip about 3 and was woken up an hour or so later by a wet nose in the ear (Not the missus unfortunately) and the dog was no longer limping and appeared fine.

I find a good way to test how poorly dogs are is to try and feed them with some little treat they usually like , if they don’t eat there is usually something wrong. In my dogs case his treat of preference is cheddar cheese believe it or not and he necked the bit I gave him and then started bothering me for more.

Ive never seen a transformation like that in people let alone dogs

We lost a dog about a year ago to a probable snake bite

I’m wondering if anyone on TVF has had a dog bitten by a snake before, I’m wondering what type of snake delivers more of a sting than a lethal dose. Also the fang marks would indicate it was only small

[meatboy]

give him some more cheese and some cuddles. you know the ones like we used to give the wife in them early days what a worry exspecially after my boys encounter with a 2mtr.one last month.but what can we do to keep them safe.

another update please.

LOVE ME,LOVE MY DOG.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

My male duck was bitten by a snake this morning,

He had been dragged back to the hole by his head, and his head was stuck down it.

We managed to drag him back out, bloodied all round his beak, not sure if there was poison.

Think it was a cobra.

[ExPratt]

Is he going to live, i'd say if a cobra bit him he wouldn't last long

meatboy, Noi Naa (Missus named him) appears to be fine, I got the kids in to give him a fuss this morning before they went to school. I think he now believes he lives in our bedroom

[pokoal2000]

We had cobra in the house and my two Alsations,kept there distance, just watching me getting the snake out of the living room and taking it out in the forest

[Bakeman]

Are there no Veterinarians around. Doing nothing means the dog could have died. I love my pets as family and would not have left them over night if I knew they were bitten by a snake????

[ExPratt]

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Are there no Veterinarians around. Doing nothing means the dog could have died. I love my pets as family and would not have left them over night if I knew they were bitten by a snake????

No mate , not at 8-30pm in Sena, Ayutthaya , not a chance , if there was i would have taken him

[Slip]

Golden tree snake? Very common around here (also central), and with a relatively mild venom. They are rear fanged though so would they be able to bite the pad on a dog's paw? I don't know.

EDIT: Glad to hear your boy was OK though. I have spent the last 7 years living in paranoia about snakes and dogs with my 3. One of the Thai mutts is very sensible and barks from a distance, but the pitbull seems to think anything in the garden is fair game- from Jingjoks to snakes to cats (2 dead in the last month) to big-assed water monitors, and the other Thai dog follows everything he does- she once had a couple of really nasty gashes from the claws of a monitor that they killed.

Edited January 9, 2015 by Slip

[ExPratt]

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Golden tree snake? Very common around here (also central), and with a relatively mild venom. They are rear fanged though so would they be able to bite the pad on a dog's paw? I don't know.

I just had a google of "Rear fanged snake". I suppose it could have been , was on the very inside foot pad. It was something that really hurt him at the time but 12 hours later he was fine

[ExPratt]

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Golden tree snake? Very common around here (also central), and with a relatively mild venom. They are rear fanged though so would they be able to bite the pad on a dog's paw? I don't know.

EDIT: Glad to hear your boy was OK though. I have spent the last 7 years living in paranoia about snakes and dogs with my 3. One of the Thai mutts is very sensible and barks from a distance, but the pitbull seems to think anything in the garden is fair game- from Jingjoks to snakes to cats (2 dead in the last month) to big-assed water monitors, and the other Thai dog follows everything he does- she once had a couple of really nasty gashes from the claws of a monitor that they killed.

I'm sure the one we lost last year was a snake bite , he had collapsed in a field , we took him too the vet , they put him on a drip and just said , see what happens basically, he died during the night. We had 7 at one point , we are down to 5 now . They also terrorize anything that moves in or around the house, a couple of the girls are very canny cat hunters, I try and spoil or disturb their stalking though as i like cats too. My missus loves animals, if we go somewhere and they have a dog my missus is buying BBQ chicken for them

[weka]

Dog/ snake story for you EP

in 2010 my two Jack Russells (male and a female) both got bitten by a snake which had come into our open plan house. We live near khlongs and orchards in Nonthaburi. I was at work but the missus did a brilliant job, all the while freaking out.

The dogs went for this snake (as they always do) but they were still abit young and inexperienced. Snake got the boy on the tongue and the girl on her back. Wife then killed the snake with a shovel, (obviously this is the most crucial, difficult and uncommon part of the episode).

The boy immediately began squealing and the tongue swelled to double size in minutes. Wife took the dog on motorbike to our local vet 1km away. Closed. Motorbike taxi guy (known to the family) then took wife and dog to another vet. Closed.

Motorbike taxi guy knew of a bigger one off rattana Tibet Road that is 3 storey shop house open 24 hours, a vet hospital really.

The vets there took the dog and immediately asked "what type of snake?"

Wife reaches into her bag and pulls out the dead snake "this one!". Big smile of relief from the vet.

It was a green pit viper. Nasty buggers for humans let alone 6kg animals

Serum administered and a phone call back home to ask if the girl dog was ok. She was acting strange too so she was taken to the vet too.

I got there after all the first aid and I thought he'd die. He didn't.

The two dogs stayed in the hospital for 3 nights. The girl's bite had less venom as most was used biting the boy. The bite on the tongue was more serious than on outside skin apparently. No doubt the snake went full on with the bite as it was in a life and death fight.

They were fine again after about 2 days at home - chased another snake in that time too! And have been doing so ever since. Watching them "tag team" snakes is a sight to behold. One distracts the head and the other nips the tail, then the snake turns around and they swap roles. Eventually snake tires and one gets a grip and many head shakes ensue, and then a tug of war over the dead body. I don't intervene for fear of distracting the dogs. After I just keep an eye on their behaviour for clues of a bite.

The bill was 18000 baht all up for everything. The vets looked to be about 16 years old (not a slur, they were just young people) and their English was good and my word they were brilliant at what they did. the whole "hospital" was brilliant I reckon. Good care, professional equipment and procedures. A real credit to all of them who were really dedicated and obviously in it for the love of animals.

These situations are really quite scary and everything and every decision has to be done so quickly.

Moral of the story: Catch the snake if you can (I know, WAY easier said than done), and try to know the closest 24 hour vets or your vets phone number or a vet that carries serum (most serums expire I believe so it's costly for a small vet to hold them in stock.

Happy to hear this snake story has a happy ending ExPratt. Happy endings are good here in Thailand!

Edited January 10, 2015 by weka

[chaiyapoon]

A suprising amount of times snakes dry bite .......don't inject venom or inject very small amounts enough to cause symtoms but not death.

[meatboy]

great story weka,not even a moan about the cost.

they making a great tag team.

but BEWARE if you see the wife and a freind coming towards you and the wife has the shovel.

[AyG]

A suprising amount of times snakes dry bite .......don't inject venom or inject very small amounts enough to cause symtoms but not death.

With young venomous snakes they lack experience, so often shoot their entire load of venom in one go. The older ones, as you say, ration it.

I was surprised to discover that non-venomous snakes also bite. I'd thought they just constricted. Anyway, a couple of months ago a large reticulated python (over 3 metres long) got into the moobaan (that's in Bangkok). It attacked a Siberian husky. Fortunately the husky is OK, but has been left with parallel scars approximately 8 cm apart on his muzzle.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

A suprising amount of times snakes dry bite .......don't inject venom or inject very small amounts enough to cause symtoms but not death.

My duck is still walking around.

Not eating yet, but started drinking.

He's happier than yesterday.

[weka]

great story weka,not even a moan about the cost.

they making a great tag team.

but BEWARE if you see the wife and a freind coming towards you and the wife has the shovel.

Yeah Meatboy, the cost was fair I reckon given that they saved 2 dogs and their scale of expertise. They were running a good business, not gouging.

What price for family members that maintain a level of happiness in the house through good and bad times eh?

[meatboy]

great story weka,not even a moan about the cost.

they making a great tag team.

but BEWARE if you see the wife and a freind coming towards you and the wife has the shovel.

Yeah Meatboy, the cost was fair I reckon given that they saved 2 dogs and their scale of expertise. They were running a good business, not gouging.

What price for family members that maintain a level of happiness in the house through good and bad times eh?

what price? happiness PRICELESS

[GarryP]

Dog/ snake story for you EP

in 2010 my two Jack Russells (male and a female) both got bitten by a snake which had come into our open plan house. We live near khlongs and orchards in Nonthaburi. I was at work but the missus did a brilliant job, all the while freaking out.

The dogs went for this snake (as they always do) but they were still abit young and inexperienced. Snake got the boy on the tongue and the girl on her back. Wife then killed the snake with a shovel, (obviously this is the most crucial, difficult and uncommon part of the episode).

The boy immediately began squealing and the tongue swelled to double size in minutes. Wife took the dog on motorbike to our local vet 1km away. Closed. Motorbike taxi guy (known to the family) then took wife and dog to another vet. Closed.

Motorbike taxi guy knew of a bigger one off rattana Tibet Road that is 3 storey shop house open 24 hours, a vet hospital really.

The vets there took the dog and immediately asked "what type of snake?"

Wife reaches into her bag and pulls out the dead snake "this one!". Big smile of relief from the vet.

It was a green pit viper. Nasty buggers for humans let alone 6kg animals

Serum administered and a phone call back home to ask if the girl dog was ok. She was acting strange too so she was taken to the vet too.

I got there after all the first aid and I thought he'd die. He didn't.

The two dogs stayed in the hospital for 3 nights. The girl's bite had less venom as most was used biting the boy. The bite on the tongue was more serious than on outside skin apparently. No doubt the snake went full on with the bite as it was in a life and death fight.

They were fine again after about 2 days at home - chased another snake in that time too! And have been doing so ever since. Watching them "tag team" snakes is a sight to behold. One distracts the head and the other nips the tail, then the snake turns around and they swap roles. Eventually snake tires and one gets a grip and many head shakes ensue, and then a tug of war over the dead body. I don't intervene for fear of distracting the dogs. After I just keep an eye on their behaviour for clues of a bite.

The bill was 18000 baht all up for everything. The vets looked to be about 16 years old (not a slur, they were just young people) and their English was good and my word they were brilliant at what they did. the whole "hospital" was brilliant I reckon. Good care, professional equipment and procedures. A real credit to all of them who were really dedicated and obviously in it for the love of animals.

These situations are really quite scary and everything and every decision has to be done so quickly.

Moral of the story: Catch the snake if you can (I know, WAY easier said than done), and try to know the closest 24 hour vets or your vets phone number or a vet that carries serum (most serums expire I believe so it's costly for a small vet to hold them in stock.

Happy to hear this snake story has a happy ending ExPratt. Happy endings are good here in Thailand!

My dog, Patch, was bitten on the nose by a burned tailed green viper. His snout swelled up something terrible and found it hard to breath. We took him to the vet and he was put on serum/antivenom or whatever, and a saline dip. Spent two nights with the vet and then back home but on anti-biotics. The vet claimed that they were necessary after snake bites as without them the bites may turn cancerous a few years on. No idea whether it is true or not but did as told. The dog died of old age eventually.