Satellite Vs Cable Vs Internet TV

[JohnnyJazz]

I'm currently rewiring my house ( http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/791155-wiring-ones-home-for-computer-network/ ) and thanks to a couple of members I realized I completely forgot about the TV. In my defence I don't watch TV, I record through the internet the programs that I like, store them in a NAS and watch them later when I've time. But one shouldn't be selfish and it's still time to amend my plans.

Now the big question is what should I plan for ? Satellite Vs cable ? And what do they offer that you can find on the internet. Thanks to Joncl I can now watch Thai TV with XBMC (now KODI) and I'm sure there will be more solution like that in the future so do I really need cable or satellite TV ?

Wiring suggestion would be also very much welcomed

I understand it's a big question here, thanks a lot in advance for all your answers.

JJ

Edited January 15, 2015 by JohnnyJazz

[IMHO]

First off, there's simply no question that Truevisions has better picture quality than IPTV, but conversely, there's also no question that some IPTV solutions have much better channel selections than Truevisions, and most IPTV vendors also support video-on-demand, where True is purely live streaming.

In the context of wiring a house, I'd say wire for both. i.e. to each TV location, run both high-speed coax and ethernet.

If you think you might want to also have remote HDMI - e.g. you might want the HDMI out of your CCTV's network video recorder in your basement to display on a TV on each floor, or you might want to mirror the living room TV to your bedroom - run another *pair* of cat6 cables in lieu of an extra long HDMI cable.

With that, you can then use UTP-to-HDMI converters to have stable, long, HDMI runs. On this, even though many of the UTP-HDMI converters only need a single cat5 or 6 cable to operate, run 2 cables nevertheless. The new HDMI 2.0 standard requires 18gbps of data, so will absolutely need 2 cables to achieve the required bandwidth if/when the time comes to move to 4K60p TV's.

[JohnnyJazz]

First off, there's simply no question that Truevisions has better picture quality than IPTV, but conversely, there's also no question that some IPTV solutions have much better channel selections than Truevisions, and most IPTV vendors also support video-on-demand, where True is purely live streaming.

In the context of wiring a house, I'd say wire for both. i.e. to each TV location, run both high-speed coax and ethernet.

If you think you might want to also have remote HDMI - e.g. you might want the HDMI out of your CCTV's network video recorder in your basement to display on a TV on each floor => Absolutely. Any information about this subject is most welcomed. We may even start a new thread if enough people interested

, or you might want to mirror the living room TV to your bedroom - run another *pair* of cat6 cables in lieu of an extra long HDMI cable.

With that, you can then use UTP-to-HDMI converters to have stable, long, HDMI runs. On this, even though many of the UTP-HDMI converters only need a single cat5 or 6 cable to operate, run 2 cables nevertheless. The new HDMI 2.0 standard requires 18gbps of data, so will absolutely need 2 cables to achieve the required bandwidth if/when the time comes to move to 4K60p TV's.

What you mean is running two cat 6 cable side by side terminating in side by side socket like picture below ?

Edited January 15, 2015 by JohnnyJazz

[JohnnyJazz]

Additional question : what about DVB-T in Thailand ?

[IMHO]

First off, there's simply no question that Truevisions has better picture quality than IPTV, but conversely, there's also no question that some IPTV solutions have much better channel selections than Truevisions, and most IPTV vendors also support video-on-demand, where True is purely live streaming.

In the context of wiring a house, I'd say wire for both. i.e. to each TV location, run both high-speed coax and ethernet.

If you think you might want to also have remote HDMI - e.g. you might want the HDMI out of your CCTV's network video recorder in your basement to display on a TV on each floor => Absolutely. Any information about this subject is most welcomed. We may even start a new thread if enough people interested

, or you might want to mirror the living room TV to your bedroom - run another *pair* of cat6 cables in lieu of an extra long HDMI cable.

With that, you can then use UTP-to-HDMI converters to have stable, long, HDMI runs. On this, even though many of the UTP-HDMI converters only need a single cat5 or 6 cable to operate, run 2 cables nevertheless. The new HDMI 2.0 standard requires 18gbps of data, so will absolutely need 2 cables to achieve the required bandwidth if/when the time comes to move to 4K60p TV's.

What you mean is running two cat 6 cable side by side terminating in side by side socket like picture below ?

You may or may not actually need RJ45 wall jacks like you've pictured - if you just buy a simple hdmi-utp-hdmi transmitter & receiver combo, yes you will install RJ45 sockets, as both ends are just dongles:

For something like CCTV where you know you want one source to multiple HDMI endpoints, you might consider going for a kit like this, which includes the wall boxes:

As for CCTV, my house is built resort style, and is actually 3 separate buildings. Each building has 4-8 IP cameras, plus a simple/cheap Onvif NVR box with it's own HDMI output for monitoring, like this

Between each building I have at least 2x cat6 runs (subterranean - one for ethernet the other for HDMI) and the NVR's are setup so that the one in building A records the cameras in building B, the NVR in B records cameras in C, and the NVR in C records the cameras in A - with some doubling up of recording and backup jobs, that I won't get into I can monitor the HDMI output from each NVR in 2/3 buildings (no monitoring in the guest wing).

It's a very cheap, yet quite powerful setup, and I'm happy with it. You can also go down the route of recording directly to your NAS, but in my situation, that would have created a single point of failure, and would mean that stealing the NAS could mean losing all recent footage that hand't yet made it up into the cloud.

[JohnnyJazz]

^ Very interesting. Thank you.

[IMHO]

Additional question : what about DVB-T in Thailand ?

1) Buy TV's with DVB-T tuners

2) Buy Set-top-boxes

No point in going to the expense of running them over UTP, given how cheap STB's are

If you mean from the POV of antennas, you'll need to find out just what's needed to get a good signal in your particular area - you might need something external/roof mounted, or you might not...

Edited January 15, 2015 by IMHO

[astral]

I have to admit that I rarely watch live TV

The two exceptions are the news and F! racing

For the rest I record off the internet and play back

with an Android box and Kodi, what and when I want to watch

[RichCor]

DVB-T2 tuners. (DVB-T was version 1 and won't work with the current T2 broadcasts)

Yes, I know people are using DVB-T to mean DVB-T2 but there are TV Receivers with the old DVB-T tuners still being sold that won't be compatible.

[IMHO]

I have to admit that I rarely watch live TV

The two exceptions are the news and F! racing

For the rest I record off the internet and play back

with an Android box and Kodi, what and when I want to watch

F1 is really the only reason I still hang onto Truevisions

Yes, I can watch on IPTV, but it's delayed >30s, so the companion apps get way too far in front, and the lack of PQ @ 720P and with IPTV compression is something I will actually pay 3,000 Baht/Month to improve

Very disappointed that the FP and qualifying sessions were only broadcast on SD Fox3 last season - I actually turned to MaigeTV for those so I got them at least in 720P

One more step wrong like that, and True loses my 36K Baht/season.