my new neighbors started a cock fighting ring in their garden.

[johnoko]

I live in the old city and just had new neighbors moving in the property next to me. The problem being is that they brought with them 15 fighting cocks which start going of at 5 am and keep on going until 5 pm. The also train the chickens there and hold fights.

I wonder what I'm able to do about it without starting a full scale war with my neighbors.

I hope someone has some advice how I could go about finding a solution

Because I'm not able to get any sleep after 5 am.

My wife already did some only line research and apparently people by law are not allowed to have more than 3 chickens within the city limits.

Is there any place were we will be able to file a complaint anomalously, because my wife is afraid that the those people might have some mafia connection and could give us some problems

Any help is appreciated

[uptheos]

Your wife is wise.

They may not have mafia connections but I guarantee these will not be the nicest and most considerate people you will ever meet.

Even if you do something anonymously, they know a Thai wouldn't do it, so you would need to watch your back afterwards.

Wound a Thai with a black heart and there will be no forgiving or forgetting.

Something will happen and you won't even see it coming.

[kanook]

Sorry, I don't have any advice. Another story that falls under the category of, 'I can't believe my neighbours would do this' but since most of us live here nothing surprises us anymore.

[Pomthai]

If your in rented accommodation, I'd seriously consider moving.

If the property is owned by you or your wife, I really don't know what I'd do. I guess I'd be putting the place on the market looking for alternatives as well.

Its worth ascertaining whether your new neighbors are permanent or not. If they are short term, do nothing and put up with it. Otherwise as above I guess.

Unfortunately you are likely to cause your self more trouble than its worth getting the authorities involved. Definitely follow your wife's intuition on this one and good luck.

Edited January 15, 2015 by Pomthai

[digbat]

They opened a Karaoke 2 doors down from where I was renting in Pattaya some 10 years back, it was a fairly quite residential street. The guy next door (directly next to them) got driven out immediately.

Took us about a year to close it down....pity really, I was just getting to know all the words.

Edited January 15, 2015 by digbat

[Chicog]

If there is gambling involved, it is illegal. Get someone to tip the old bill off, they like the publicity of an easy bust.

[Paagai]

If there is gambling involved, it is illegal. Get someone to tip the old bill off, they like the publicity of an easy bust.

The raison d'etre for cock fighting is illegal gambling. You can already guarantee both mafias are already involved; one mafia can't do that stuff without contributing to their uniformed cousins. Follow your wife's advice, or start breeding foxes.

[Beng]

If you are renting, complain to your landlord. Otherwise, you could see wether other neighbours are affected and try with them to solve the problem.

[stopthegreed]

Seems like your hands are tied here. Move house ??

[mamypoko]

The police! There are new anti-cruelty laws. You might contact the Soi Dog Foundation for proper direction.

These laws were recently used against a man who attacked a cat...he paid a fine and had to apologize

Good luck!

[lostmebike]

We recently managed to get shot of the **nkers next door, it took a year!

A couple of months back, when my wife mentioned complaining to Tesaban, the landlady, woke up pretty quickly. A month later, their were gone.

One poster said to tip off the law, I would definitely think about going to the Tesaban office as well as the law!

Just be careful how pi*sed off you show them you are. You don't wanna be the prime suspect for grassing, might get ugly!

Good luck my friend.

[DaddyWarbucks]

If you are renting, complain to your landlord. Otherwise, you could see wether other neighbours are affected and try with them to solve the problem.

That's the only sensible possibility - group action with Thais fronting for you.

But keep in mind that most Thais have a high tolerance for noise, and it may not bother them as much as it does you.

Good luck.

[uptheos]

We recently managed to get shot of the **nkers next door, it took a year!

A couple of months back, when my wife mentioned complaining to Tesaban, the landlady, woke up pretty quickly. A month later, their were gone.

One poster said to tip off the law, I would definitely think about going to the Tesaban office as well as the law!

Just be careful how pi*sed off you show them you are. You don't wanna be the prime suspect for grassing, might get ugly!

Good luck my friend.

If there are no other foreigners in the immediate vicinity, I guarantee he will be the prime suspect.

[Papayabokbok]

Ahhhhhh..my heart goes out to you..as when i thought i found a quiet room by the mountains, they welcomed me- (roosters)

This is a tough call and it makes me mad too--just like the post about the late night party neighbors....as i struggle

with the rudeness..or what seems to me, the balls out audacity of thais and NO concern for others peace of mind.

I simply cannot wrap my head around it and im sure i will go crazy as the slack-jawed thais just stare at me...

I think this is why the longest i made it here was 2 years as i was working..i simply start to crack..i become jaded,

i see people that may need help but know if i touch them its now MY problem, the everyday hustle....as someone

said to me when i was trying to explain living here...he told me i said...."i can never fully "relax" here"....i got the

habit of checking my pockets for my phone and cash as ive had 2 phones swipied right out of my pocket..cash too.

It feels like bullying to me....well <deleted> you and your nice home--we want to get drunk and gamble and treat animals

badly cos we feel like it...as for anyone else who had lived here and is happy...i could give a r*ts a** about how u feel..

Its like the big stupid kid in school taking your lunch money....ive had my ass kicked her alot as i wont take sh*t from

thais..i realize that may be crazy but as ive said id rather die on my feet than live on my knees..its simply NOT right!

Seems to me from te thai side--they have one advantage--numbers..i suppose the only way is outnumber them,

as sad to say the old payback seems alive and well...but i can be slick too--i can be a real vindictive a**hole(Thainess)

Excuse me while i step down from my soapbox....and NO, i dont need to be told to go home if i dont like it--thanks..

[Papayabokbok]

The police! There are new anti-cruelty laws. You might contact the Soi Dog Foundation for proper direction.

These laws were recently used against a man who attacked a cat...he paid a fine and had to apologize

Good luck!

How much was the fine?

And did THE CAT accept the apology?!

[realenglish1]

Cock Fighting is against the law here in Thailand So go to the local station and file a complaint. See if you can PURSUED the local cops so they keep you out of it

Baring that KFC is looking for a few fryers

[Briggsy]

Fighting cocks usually start their racket before 5am. Think 3am. Soundproof your bedroom. Video and stick on youtube.

[SOTIRIOS]

.....what do you think will happen.....

......I would be very careful if it was me.....

...to expect justice or the law to be upheld is delusional.....

[arrowsdawdle]

The nice way? Have a friend hang out in the neighborhood claiming to be a relative of the people that moved out and explain that the reason they moved is because the house is haunted, that the entire family unexplainably became allergic to cats and one of them almost died and probably would have, had they not moved to safety. A week later, hire somebody to make an alms stop as a monk and have him ask about the ghosts and offer to exorcise the bad spirits from the house. Then pay a veterinarian across town to give you dead cats because your son is a taxidermist and has customers wanting stuffed cats. Have somebody (never you) toss a cat carcass near the gamecocks now and then. Go to the animal shelter and adopt live cats and turn them loose around the roosters.

The not so nice way? Tap into their phone line and make disturbing calls to somebody that warrants a jail term and talk at least 90 seconds each time, or use the same technique, when you are sure the neighbors are away and after you have lifted the baskets to turn the cocks loose, to call animal control to come pick them up.

Have you not taken up falconry? It is a popular and legitimate sport in Thailand.

You could lace apple pieces with cyanide since apple seeds contain it in small quantities, or you could break up and scatter raw beans because they're toxic to birds.

But, seriously, why all the bother? Get some ear plugs and set up your DVD to broadcast at 5 a.m. full volume with the sound of a hawk's screech. That'll have the chickens hunkering down in silence.

[Chicken George]

Move or get used to it.PS I have no chickens.. Every one around me has chickens. You adjust. Some people with regular hangovers do suffer.

[catweazle]

Someone who raises fighting cocks shows (unless he is forced to do it) that he has no empathy for animals, and that he is a cold-hearted person who will do almost anything for cash. I know a guy personally who raises fighting cocks and as nice and smiling he appears if he knows he has to, as short-fused he is when under pressure... Rest assured that those people will do whatever necessary to get "troublemakers" like you out of the way. They also will know where the complaint was coming from as the RTP (with very few exceptions) is nothing but a rotten pile of corrupt bastards who as well do whatever is needed to make some extra cash. They will snitch on you and your wife. My advise to you is to move away if you simply have rented the place. If you own it... poor you might try to sell, but chances are bleak I guess...

Edited January 15, 2015 by catweazle

[Nemesis7]

See if others are in the same situation as you are or not, if they are im sure they will come forward,and if you are renting that place i guess you can look for a better option. but if you are the owner, than i must say you are in hard luck for now.

[bangmai]

Take some photos of the action, especially if there are coyote dancers, then post them for us to see.....A lawyers letter to their landlord might be a decent idea. These kinds of folks are almost always renters.....might be related to the owners, though, and might also be related to some BiB.

[ezzra]

If you can't beat them join them they say... learn the cock fighting rules and get on the action

and maybe make some money, and a chicken dinner of the losing bird...

[jayceenik]

In BKK I suffered years with the next house rooster (only one in a coop) that was voicing like every 20 seconds all day all night except (for some unknown reason) from 8 to 9 PM. I tried to throw cooked rice laced with rat poison over the fence into the coop but that didn't work.

A fancy condo was eventually built on the other side of the street and once completed the moneyed tenants must have been annoyed too and had probably some influence because the coop was gone in a short time thereafter.

In Pattaya I have the same situation. Here it's 3 roosters and assorted chickens that the neighbor is raising in his yard. I did think of poisoned seeds that I could throw at the beasts. I also thought of aiming a very noisy boom box at the rear of that neighbor's house but that would have annoyed other people in the vicinity. Now I just use a Songkran water gun from my rear balcony to shoo them away as far as can be (it's a big garden). I finally have learned to live (and sleep) with the noise by using earplugs.

Live-in TGF has repeatedly told me that she is not bothered because it was like that at home in Isaan.

OK. That's me. In your case I'd consider moving out. Me, I couldn't because my two rented studios are otherwise super nice and convenient for me.

[cooked]

Someone who raises fighting cocks shows (unless he is forced to do it) that he has no empathy for animals, and that he is a cold-hearted person who will do almost anything for cash. I know a guy personally who raises fighting cocks and as nice and smiling he appears if he knows he has to, as short-fused he is when under pressure... Rest assured that those people will do whatever necessary to get "troublemakers" like you out of the way. They also will know where the complaint was coming from as the RTP (with very few exceptions) is nothing but a rotten pile of corrupt bastards who as well do whatever is needed to make some extra cash. They will snitch on you and your wife. My advise to you is to move away if you simply have rented the place. If you own it... poor you might try to sell, but chances are bleak I guess...

I breed fighting cocks as do the neighbours. I assure you that, at least around here, these animals are well looked after and a fight is not won when one is dead but when one Thai withdraws his fighter it is because he is afraid of further damage. These beasts live to fight, I have had one fight his way through chicken wire to get at the neighbours cock. That's what they do, they fight.

As for being woken up at 5am... you are supposed to go to bed when it gets dark, if you decide to stay up later, try to live with the consequences.

[shaggy28303]

Call Animal Control in your area, tell them there are infected birds and other rodents in large numbers. they will come out to inspect, they will move them on, Thais won't do it not even your landlord its a face thing

[Beetlejuice]

If there is gambling involved, it is illegal. Get someone to tip the old bill off, they like the publicity of an easy bust.

I certainly would not take the above advice. Word gets around fast in Thai communities and if there is gambling and money involved you could be leaving yourself and wife vulnerable to those who will bear a grudge.

Where we live there is probably hundreds of feral chickens roaming around the area, we hear them non stop 24/7 including the dogs and cats. Our dogs bark, our neighbors dogs bark, there are the occasional domestic disputes sometimes in the late hours. But this has to be an acceptable part of living within Thai communities and over the years I have become hardly aware of these sounds, none of it bothers me.

As for the cock fights, best to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to it, especially if these events only happen on occasions and are not frequent. Otherwise it`s as one poster has already advised, if you can`t tolerate it than move on somewhere else into an environment more suited to your lifestyle if you prefer absolute peace and quite. Welcome to Thailand and a whole new way of life, for better or for worse.

[Time Traveller]

Cock Fighting is against the law here in Thailand So go to the local station and file a complaint.

You're not in Kansas anymore dorothy. Cockfighting is legal in Thailand. It's no big issue so deal with it.

Edited January 15, 2015 by Time Traveller

[johnoko]

Someone who raises fighting cocks shows (unless he is forced to do it) that he has no empathy for animals, and that he is a cold-hearted person who will do almost anything for cash. I know a guy personally who raises fighting cocks and as nice and smiling he appears if he knows he has to, as short-fused he is when under pressure... Rest assured that those people will do whatever necessary to get "troublemakers" like you out of the way. They also will know where the complaint was coming from as the RTP (with very few exceptions) is nothing but a rotten pile of corrupt bastards who as well do whatever is needed to make some extra cash. They will snitch on you and your wife. My advise to you is to move away if you simply have rented the place. If you own it... poor you might try to sell, but chances are bleak I guess...

I breed fighting cocks as do the neighbours. I assure you that, at least around here, these animals are well looked after and a fight is not won when one is dead but when one Thai withdraws his fighter it is because he is afraid of further damage. These beasts live to fight, I have had one fight his way through chicken wire to get at the neighbours cock. That's what they do, they fight.

As for being woken up at 5am... you are supposed to go to bed when it gets dark, if you decide to stay up later, try to live with the consequences.

It's always nice if people have hobbies that don't take their neighbors in consideration. What if I would come live next to you and start banging my drum set at 1 am and my reaction if you would come and complain would be "sleeping is for the weak". I don't mind if people have one or two roosters walking around but 15 roosters in a residential area is just a selfish act if you wanna start a farm move to the countryside where its normal to have farm animals around on that scale.

But I hope you enjoy your cruel hobby and I feel for your neighbors