Latest Charlie Hebdo cover continues to roil Muslim world

[Lite Beer]

Latest Charlie Hebdo cover continues to roil Muslim world
ASHRAF KHALIL, Associated Press

CAIRO (AP) — The famed French weekly Charlie Hebdo has continued to draw a somewhat contradictory reaction across the Muslim world. Many Muslims have expressed disgust at the deadly assault on the magazine's Paris office by Islamic extremists who killed 12 people.

However many also remain deeply offended by the magazine's record of publishing cartoons lampooning the Prophet Muhammad. Those passions were further inflamed this week when the magazine's first issue following the attack carried a cover cartoon depicting Muhammad holding a "Je Suis Charlie" sign.

According to mainstream Islamic tradition, any physical depiction of the Prophet Muhammad — even a respectful one — is considered blasphemous.

In the West African nation of Niger, President Mahamadou Issoufou said at least 10 people have been killed after violent protests broke out against the latest cartoon depicting Muhammad in the French publication.

Issoufou said that five deaths were reported after demonstrations in the capital of Niamey on Saturday. The victims were inside churches and bars that were set ablaze, he said. On Friday, at least five people were killed in the town of Zinder after prayer services there.

Iranian judicial authorities on Saturday banned a daily newspaper for publishing a front-page headline that allegedly indicated support for Charlie Hebdo. Mohammad Ghoochani, chief editor of the daily Mardom-e-Emrooz, or Today's People, told the semi-official Tasnim news agency that his paper had been ordered closed. The paper's Tuesday edition featured a front-page article with a headline that quoted filmmaker and activist George Clooney as saying "I am Charlie Hebdo." However the accompanying article did not actually express support for Clooney's statement, nor for the magazine itself.

The Iranian government has publicly condemned both the attack on Charlie Hebdo and the magazine itself, calling the continued publishing of Muhammad caricatures "provocative" and an insult to Islam.

Elsewhere in the Muslim world on Saturday, Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani condemned Charlie Hebdo, calling the newest cover image of Prophet Muhammad a blasphemous and irresponsible act.

"Freedom of expression should be used in a way to boost understanding between the religions," he said in a statement issued by the presidential palace. "Afghanistan has suffered many years of war and violence, more than any other country, and it is necessary to understand and promote peaceful coexistence among all the people of the world."

Iraq's Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi also issued a statement of condemnation, warning that, "offensive words might lead to further bloodshed."

Al-Abadi called on all parties to "desist such practices that create an atmosphere of division and rejection." He also reiterated his condemnation of the attacks on innocent victims in Paris, saying that terrorism, "has nothing to do with Islam in any way."

Protesters also demonstrated in front of the French Embassy in the Yemeni capital of Sanaa, as well as in the Pakistani city of Karachi. In Egypt, the Islamist Noor Party denounced the latest Charlie Hebdo cover on its French-language Facebook page. "Just as the Noor Party rejects the assault on civilians and the negative effects it has for all Muslims of Europe, it also rejects this barbaric, irresponsible act under the name of freedom of expression," the statement declared.

In Gaza City, the capital of the Gaza Strip, unknown vandals scrawled graffiti on the walls of the French Cultural Center. In addition to statements praising the Prophet Muhammad and declaring him off-limits for ridicule or satire, the vandals also wrote: "To hell, to a miserable destiny, French journalists."

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Associated Press writers Ali Akbar Dareini in Tehran, Iran, Lynne O'Donnell in Kabul, Afghanistan and Vivian Salama in Baghdad contributed to this report.

-- (c) Associated Press 2015-01-18

[cornishcarlos]

It's a sad state of affairs really...

I wonder how it will all end ?

[Pimay1]

Al-Abadi called on all parties to "desist such practices that create an atmosphere of division and rejection." He also reiterated his condemnation of the attacks on innocent victims in Paris, saying that terrorism, "has nothing to do with Islam in any way."

Marco Polo, a Venetian merchant whose travels are recorded in the Book of Marvels of the World, was the first to leave a detailed chronicle of his travel experience through Central Asia and China. His insight into Islam from eight centuries ago remains relevant today.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Pimay1

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

[Baerboxer]

I have no problem with Moslems or any religion or political ideology - until they want to use violence, murder, and intimidation to stop free speech, force others to accept their way of life and laws and treat people of different views with contempt. Usually those that do are the biggest violators of what they preach others should do.

[technologybytes]

People being people there will always be good and bad in any group.

Given the number of muslims in the world, it's inevitable that there will be a few bad ones but it needs to be remembered that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and are as disgusted by these acts of terrorism as anyone else.

Having said that, it's irresponsible to make cartoons for the sole purpose of offending others.

[giddyup]

People being people there will always be good and bad in any group.

Given the number of muslims in the world, it's inevitable that there will be a few bad ones but it needs to be remembered that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and are as disgusted by these acts of terrorism as anyone else.

Having said that, it's irresponsible to make cartoons for the sole purpose of offending others.

What doesn't offend Muslims? The west has been bending over backwards for years to cater to their demands and sensitivity, even when they are guests in the host country. The bottom line is nothing pleases them and their demands are never satisfied.

[ezzra]

This is the case of too little too late, radical Islam is well entrenched all over Europe by now

and sleeper cells are poised to strike and reek havoc...

the only actions that might put a damp on it will be a united Muslim world of 1.6 billion Muslims

take a firm stand against those who uses Islam and a guise to advance their murderers agenda

to control and install fear all around the world...

[klauskunkel]

Dear roiled Muslims,

if you are offended by 'stuff', do not listen, read, watch or consume it, instead boycott it. This will make you less offended. It is a practice which evolved in civilized societies. To evolve in this particular manner you need to start by thinking critically, not regurgitating what some seemingly holy man tells you in a mosque, basically you need to think for yourself. To do that you need self esteem and self respect and self confidence. Try therapy.

Now, maybe you want to be offended, perpetually. In that case you are beyond help.

[EyesWideOpen]

Al-Abadi called on all parties to "desist such practices that create an atmosphere of division and rejection." He also reiterated his condemnation of the attacks on innocent victims in Paris, saying that terrorism, "has nothing to do with Islam in any way."

Marco Polo, a Venetian merchant whose travels are recorded in the Book of Marvels of the World, was the first to leave a detailed chronicle of his travel experience through Central Asia and China. His insight into Islam from eight centuries ago remains relevant today.

Marco Polo.jpg

Well, Marco Polo actually said this. Pretty much means that Muslims can do whatever they

want to infidels who do not believe in their god......

"The law which their prophet Mohamed has given to muslims is that any harm done to any one who does not accept their law and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all".

I actually like Winston Churchill's outlook on Muslims. As one of the great thinkers of our

times, he is hard to ignore.

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity."

Or how about the great French thinker, Alexis de Tocqueville...... These guys must be rolling over in their graves right now if they could see their countries being taken over by Muslim lunatics..

"I studied the Quran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction that by and large there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. As far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion more to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself."

Actually, since Muhammad was a bandit, slaver, and a pedophile, you would think at this point

Muslims should be used to taking a bit of flack from normal people....

Edited January 18, 2015 by EyesWideOpen

[Tchooptip]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

[giddyup]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

Here's a tip. Don't buy it or access it in any form. Problem solved.

[EyesWideOpen]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

Funny stuff, thanks !! At this point, I am pretty sure they have woken the sleeping

dragon, so the easily offended Muslim radicals can look forward to a whole lot

more cartoons from Charlie Hebdo lampooning their " leader"... :-)

[Suffinator]

Islam is NOT a religion it's a cult and the Muslim world has an agenda ... here's the truth about Islam and Islamic states

http://meebal.com/muslim-agenda/

[Scott]

An off-topic post has been removed. If you wish to make comparisons, please do so in the context of this thread and this situation.

[DiamondKing]

People being people there will always be good and bad in any group.

Given the number of muslims in the world, it's inevitable that there will be a few bad ones but it needs to be remembered that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and are as disgusted by these acts of terrorism as anyone else.

Having said that, it's irresponsible to make cartoons for the sole purpose of offending others.

RUBBISH based on Polls in Muslim countries and around the world almost HALF of the 1.6 Billion Musilim population can be called radicals based on theri support for Sharia law which includes death and lashing for Homosexuals Death for Aposthy Cutting of of limbs for theft Death for anyone insulting Islam or Mohammed, Beating of you wife and I can go on and on

I find it remarkable that the left while supporting Islam and Muslims are so stupid and ignornant that while supporting the muslims they are actually supporting killing of homosexuals and treating women like 2nd class citizens

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[/media] Edited January 18, 2015 by DiamondKing

[KOZMO]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

Since I seee he has attacked other religions, what is the BIG DEAL???? This is his showing through caricatures, joking about rligious and political figures in the world. Not just one person or religion. If you don't like it don't buy it!!!

[Credo]

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I find it remarkable that the left while supporting Islam and Muslims are so stupid and ignornant that while supporting the muslims they are actually supporting killing of homosexuals and treating women like 2nd class citizens

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg[/media]

Rubbish. People who support or do not support Islam are not divided on your left/right axis. I am fairly left leaning, but I don't support Islam. I don't condemn it either. I expect anyone living in any country to respect the laws, culture and ethos of the country. Those who don't will have to face the punishment.

[HeijoshinCool]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

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I grew up reading Mad Magazine. It was irreverent and also funny. They were never hateful.

These guys are irreverent and baiting. They are hateful.

I don't agree with government limiting free speech, because while now they'll only take an inch, later it will be a mile. But if people don't have the common decency and selflessness to limit themselves, then governments are going to step in, and we are all going to have our rights taken away, methodically, piece by piece.

[giddyup]

<snipped>

I find it remarkable that the left while supporting Islam and Muslims are so stupid and ignornant that while supporting the muslims they are actually supporting killing of homosexuals and treating women like 2nd class citizens

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg[/media]

Rubbish. People who support or do not support Islam are not divided on your left/right axis. I am fairly left leaning, but I don't support Islam. I don't condemn it either. I expect anyone living in any country to respect the laws, culture and ethos of the country. Those who don't will have to face the punishment.

If you don't condemn it then you condone the atrocities committed in it's name.

[giddyup]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

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I grew up reading Mad Magazine. It was irreverent and also funny. They were never hateful.

These guys are irreverent and baiting. They are hateful.

I don't agree with government limiting free speech, because while now they'll only take an inch, later it will be a mile. But if people don't have the common decency and selflessness to limit themselves, then governments are going to step in, and we are all going to have our rights taken away, methodically, piece by piece.

I take it the limiting of free speech should only apply to to Muslim sensitivity? Jokes are made about Christianity by comedians, and artists have also depicted Christ in a less than flattering light. Don't recall any artists or comedians being killed in Christ's name, not since the Inquisition anyway.

[Jingthing]

People being people there will always be good and bad in any group.

Given the number of muslims in the world, it's inevitable that there will be a few bad ones but it needs to be remembered that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and are as disgusted by these acts of terrorism as anyone else.

Having said that, it's irresponsible to make cartoons for the sole purpose of offending others.

RUBBISH based on Polls in Muslim countries and around the world almost HALF of the 1.6 Billion Musilim population can be called radicals based on theri support for Sharia law which includes death and lashing for Homosexuals Death for Aposthy Cutting of of limbs for theft Death for anyone insulting Islam or Mohammed, Beating of you wife and I can go on and on

I find it remarkable that the left while supporting Islam and Muslims are so stupid and ignornant that while supporting the muslims they are actually supporting killing of homosexuals and treating women like 2nd class citizens

[media]

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Spot on. Believe me, not all of the left is fooled. I think the European left IS mostly caving to fear of being labeled Islamophobic. I think they are making a bargain that won't work -- we'll humor you with tolerance even when your actions are radically against our western values, we'll join you in irrationally demonizing Israel (we never liked Jews anyway), etc. because you're here in great numbers and we feel there is no other choice but appeasement.

But in the U.S. Bill Maher's views about modern Islam are very popular among the left spectrum of Americans.

Being overly "tolerant" of the behavior of modern Muslims is INDEED implicitly supporting:

Murdering gay people

Oppressing women

Murdering people who leave Islam

Thinking people who are murdered for a cartoon about the Prophet HAD IT COMING

Honor killings of girls and women

etc.

In other words, the exact opposite of leftist/liberal modern values.

The west needs to wake up. The problem is both Jihadist Islamic soldiers for Allah and ALSO the large percentage of Muslims who support barbaric values from the dark ages (as above). These values are really quite widespread among modern Muslims and are NOT compatible with modern civilization.

In my view, being intolerant of intolerance (see the list above) is not intolerance -- it is COMMON SENSE.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Jingthing

[Credo]

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I find it remarkable that the left while supporting Islam and Muslims are so stupid and ignornant that while supporting the muslims they are actually supporting killing of homosexuals and treating women like 2nd class citizens

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg[/media]

Rubbish. People who support or do not support Islam are not divided on your left/right axis. I am fairly left leaning, but I don't support Islam. I don't condemn it either. I expect anyone living in any country to respect the laws, culture and ethos of the country. Those who don't will have to face the punishment.

If you don't condemn it then you condone the atrocities committed in it's name.

Wow, is that straight from the George Bush book of quotes!

I don't condone any atrocities. I don't any attempt to create any legal system other than the one operating in a country. I don't support gov't interfering in religious activities among willing participants, nor do I condone religious people interfering in the laws of a country.

[Tchooptip]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

Here's a tip. Don't buy it or access it in any form. Problem solved.

Where do you see a problem, for me there is none at all!

I never bought it, I ignored it, in fact almost forgot its existence till a few days ago, so I had not the smalest problem with it.

But since the whole world is talking about it I gave my opinion too!

But may I still say this extreme left paper was never my cup of tea, nowadays not sure anymore

[Jimbo2014]

Loved the quote from the Afghan president about freedom of expression LOL - the cat calling the kettle indeed - what an intolerant and silly but deeply worrying religion

"The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan does not recognize any Afghan citizens as being Christians, nor are Afghan citizens legally permitted to convert to Christianity. Although there are no explicit laws that forbid proselytizing, many authorities and most of society view the practice as contrary to the beliefs of Islam.^[1] There is only one legally recognized church in Afghanistan and it is located within the diplomatic enclave, and not open to local nationals.^[1] There are also Christian religious facilities at the foreign military bases, such as an Eastern Orthodox church at the Romanian base in Kandahar.^[2][3][4]"

[giddyup]

Credo

Wow, is that straight from the George Bush book of quotes!

I don't condone any atrocities. I don't any attempt to create any legal system other than the one operating in a country. I don't support gov't interfering in religious activities among willing participants, nor do I condone religious people interfering in the laws of a country.

If I'm quoting from GB then you are talking straight from the book of Gobbledegook.

[Tchooptip]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

.

I grew up reading Mad Magazine. It was irreverent and also funny. They were never hateful.

These guys are irreverent and baiting. They are hateful.

I don't agree with government limiting free speech, because while now they'll only take an inch, later it will be a mile. But if people don't have the common decency and selflessness to limit themselves, then governments are going to step in, and we are all going to have our rights taken away, methodically, piece by piece.

Absolutely HeijoshinCool, me too I Liked mad Magazine you expressed it well irreverent but never hatefull, this Charlie Hebdo on the contrary almost vomit on anything IMHO at least its not even funny, by the way they were on the verge of bankruptcy.

[Jimbo2014]

You obviously havnt bothered to read the Quran have you. Have a read and get back to us with your wholesome ideas once you have seen what real intolerance is.

People being people there will always be good and bad in any group.

Given the number of muslims in the world, it's inevitable that there will be a few bad ones but it needs to be remembered that the vast majority of muslims are peaceful and are as disgusted by these acts of terrorism as anyone else.

Having said that, it's irresponsible to make cartoons for the sole purpose of offending others.

[HeijoshinCool]

I hate this paper, sorry MY opinion, since the first day I said I am not Charlie, why? Here is the link for many of they carricatures, what do YOU think about it?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=charlie+hebdo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=oz67VKQ3i7NR3oSEwAs&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=976&bih=542

.

I grew up reading Mad Magazine. It was irreverent and also funny. They were never hateful.

These guys are irreverent and baiting. They are hateful.

I don't agree with government limiting free speech, because while now they'll only take an inch, later it will be a mile. But if people don't have the common decency and selflessness to limit themselves, then governments are going to step in, and we are all going to have our rights taken away, methodically, piece by piece.

I take it the limiting of free speech should only apply to to Muslim sensitivity? Jokes are made about Christianity by comedians, and artists have also depicted Christ in a less than flattering light. Don't recall any artists or comedians being killed in Christ's name, not since the Inquisition anyway.

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You take it that way because you are speaking for me, words I never uttered.

And you do that, because you totally missed the point.

[reptile91602]

I don't understand a word of French but after viewing the cartoon page they look pretty funny. One day muslims will have to get over their religions worst emphasis on cartoons and drawings.