ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hello all, For the past few months I have been working at a Thai public school. I found out yesterday that they are not going forward with getting me a work permit because they do not want to extend me a contract to come back next year. I have thought about collecting my last paycheck and then bailing. Is this a good idea? I had been on the Non-B visa working and they had paid me faithfully so far. Advice? I'm a newbie when it comes to working in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 You may let them know that the work permit can be made for 3 or 6 months also. But seeing their general attitude you may start as well looking for another job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 You are working illegally if you don't have a work permit. If you are on a non-b visa you can resign and stay until your 90 day entry runs out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 So bail? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnotherOneAmerican Posted January 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2015 Bail, you are working illegally, can be arrested, jailed and deported at any time with a ten year ban on returning. Just not worth the risk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Can you link me to a page where that is in print? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Okay... It's a fine of 2000 to 100000 baht and / or five years imprisonment. http://www.thaiworkpermit.com/working-illegally-in-thailand.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Working in Thailand without a work permit is illegal under thai immigration law. Teachers will be especially scrutinized by authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Okay, I was wondering about the ban. I have some time to mull this over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Okay, I was wondering about the ban. I have some time to mull this over. The comment about the blacklisting (ban) was a bit overboard. There would be a fine and deportation but normally there is no blacklisting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm leaning on not continuing due to the draconian climate regarding foreigners these days. However, two months isn't a lot of time.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 There's only about another month and a half left in the term, correct? Guessing with so little time , if they do not plan on inviting you back for next semester..... They probably don't want to be bothered... Definately not the write thing, as likely should have gotten it for you much earlier.. Although at this point, if they did go forward, you would likely receive your WP just a short time before leaving ... (At best) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB87 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> You are working illegally if you don't have a work permit. If you are on a non-b visa you can resign and stay until your 90 day entry runs out. I thought we are supposed to leave by midnight when we finish work? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> You are working illegally if you don't have a work permit. If you are on a non-b visa you can resign and stay until your 90 day entry runs out. I thought we are supposed to leave by midnight when we finish work? If your on a visa no... On extension of stay for employment - yes One suspects the op is on a visa can stay till his 90 days runs out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Previously I left 2 schools for the same reason, they were not willing, or did not know how to do the paperwork. One actually got rid of me because I demanded they do the paperwork. None of the teachers at that particular school have W.P.'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB87 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> You are working illegally if you don't have a work permit. If you are on a non-b visa you can resign and stay until your 90 day entry runs out. I thought we had to leave by midnight? Okay, I was wondering about the ban. I have some time to mull this over. The comment about the blacklisting (ban) was a bit overboard. There would be a fine and deportation but normally there is no blacklisting. Is it common for foreigners to get caught working illegally? I never hear of it. I am interested cos i am working illegally too. The school keeps telling me i'm not illegal cos we are "in the process", but i know that's nonsense. Just waiting for the waiver, then work permit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canarysun Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 There are hundred's of Farangs living and working in schools in Thailand with " No Work Permit " some get away with it and some get caught,fined and even " banged up " so its at your own risk! I was offered a teaching job a few weeks ago with " No Work Permit " and No Teaching qualifications.( after careful consideration i " declined " the offer ) It's all very well " paying brown envelopes " to Immigration but it doesn't take much to get caught! ( also with my personality being " wild & wacky " and being completely " Nuts " ( " Very Micheal Barrymore " ) in the classroom i wouldn't of lasted long with the Thai reserved attitude style of teaching...) Kind respect to all our viewers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 I am on my Non B visa and it is up soon this month. If it is true there is a 90 day work permit or similar and they are not getting it who is to say they will pay me while I am working illegally? The head teacher was telling me that "This is Thailand" and all that stuff. However with the current craziness of the military government maybe it's best not to take chances. Thank you all for responding, I really do find your input helpful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canarysun Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I am on my Non B visa and it is up soon this month. If it is true there is a 90 day work permit or similar and they are not getting it who is to say they will pay me while I am working illegally? The head teacher was telling me that "This is Thailand" and all that stuff. However with the current craziness of the military government maybe it's best not to take chances. Thank you all for responding, I really do find your input helpful. Always remember that if you get caught then your life will become " complicated " but for the school its just another normal day at Waterloo Road ....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I am on my Non B visa and it is up soon this month. If it is true there is a 90 day work permit or similar and they are not getting it who is to say they will pay me while I am working illegally? The head teacher was telling me that "This is Thailand" and all that stuff. However with the current craziness of the military government maybe it's best not to take chances. Thank you all for responding, I really do find your input helpful. A work permit can be had for 14 days or less, 3 months, 6 months, 12 months or 24 months, the 12 month one being the most common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 I am on my Non B visa and it is up soon this month. If it is true there is a 90 day work permit or similar and they are not getting it who is to say they will pay me while I am working illegally? The head teacher was telling me that "This is Thailand" and all that stuff. However with the current craziness of the military government maybe it's best not to take chances. Thank you all for responding, I really do find your input helpful. A work permit can be had for 14 days or less, 3 months, 6 months, 12 months or 24 months, the 12 month one being the most common Well, I guess that settles it. In future job interviews I suppose I can tell them I left because they wouldn't get the proper permit? Hopefully that sounds okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 In a bizarre way they may have done you a favour as you didn't waste a teaching license waiver (they are for 2 years and belong to the school, not you) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 In a bizarre way they may have done you a favour as you didn't waste a teaching license waiver (they are for 2 years and belong to the school, not you) I don't understand. Can you please elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 In order to teach legally as a foreigner in Thailand, you require 1. a teaching licence or waiver. (Ministry of Education) 2. a work permit (Ministry of Labour) 3 permission to be in the country (Immigration Department) You only have 1 of 3, that is number 3 in the list above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 In order to teach legally as a foreigner in Thailand, you require 1. a teaching licence or waiver. (Ministry of Education) 2. a work permit (Ministry of Labour) 3 permission to be in the country (Immigration Department) You only have 1 of 3, that is number 3 in the list above. How does someone get #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Welcome to Thailand Unless you have a teaching qualification, they just don't give work permit in most schools here, just because they know they don't need to. Everyday a charter full of desperately trying to escape unemployment in the home country candidates all with the same hope to make it at the TEFL game, lands at Swampy. Meanwhile immigration is doing everything to get a good chunk of their already low salary and making their life more complicated everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have an online TEFL. Is that what is meant? Or do you pass some proficiency test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 There are hundred's of Farangs living and working in schools in Thailand with " No Work Permit " some get away with it and some get caught,fined and even " banged up " so its at your own risk! I was offered a teaching job a few weeks ago with " No Work Permit " and No Teaching qualifications.( after careful consideration i " declined " the offer ) It's all very well " paying brown envelopes " to Immigration but it doesn't take much to get caught! ( also with my personality being " wild & wacky " and being completely " Nuts " ( " Very Micheal Barrymore " ) in the classroom i wouldn't of lasted long with the Thai reserved attitude style of teaching...) Kind respect to all our viewers.... Yes, what your saying is true. last month when I went to Savannakhet for visa based on marriage, I got talking to two guys, an Australian and a Russian. Both were working as English teachers and ad mitted to me they had no work permit, obviously, they would not have been there if they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev1lchris Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Do the majority of schools hire without giving with permits or just the shitty ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) I have an online TEFL. Is that what is meant? Or do you pass some proficiency test? You have 3 types of teachers here: 1/ Teachers that are professional teachers in their home country, they have work permit, proper salary. 2/ Teachers that have a Bed (Bachelor in Education); They all have work permit too,but lower pay 3/ Teachers with just a degree or/and a TEFL, or no qualification at all, most of them have no work permit and low pay. Edited January 21, 2015 by Kitsune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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