Decision to indict Yingluck questioned

[webfact]

Indictment decision questioned
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra's lawyers will today file a petition with the Office of the Attorney-General questioning the decision of the joint panel of public prosecutors and anti-graft officials to indict her over the rice-pledging scheme.

Norawit Lalang said National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) representative Wicha Mahakun answered the National Legislative Assembly's queries last Friday, revealing that the joint panel had decided to indict Yingluck.

However, the prosecutors led by Wuthipong Wiboonwong told the media on Wednesday that the panel had yet to make a decision as two more witnesses still had to be questioned to find out when and how corruption had been committed.

He said the case had three loopholes that required further investigation as there was no clear evidence of corruption, other than a report from the Thailand Development Research Institute (TDRI).

NACC secretary-general Sansern Polajiak, meanwhile, said the panel - comprising 10 NACC representatives and three prosecutors - had met on Monday and made a decision on the issue.

Meanwhile, Norawit said he would ask the Office of the Attorney-General whether the three prosecutors present at the meeting could be regarded as representatives of the Office, and if the panel's decision was lawful or not as witness examination had yet to be completed. He added that Wuthipong had no knowledge of the panel's decision.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Indictment-decision-questioned-30252517.html

-- The Nation 2015-01-23

[chotthee]

Just ask the junta.

They have all the answers pre-written.

[binjalin]

How can an unelected 'panel' impeach a former PM? I mean it is ludicrous! if she's guilty of corruption arrest her and take her to court, they don't and won't, this is all about politics and negating opposition

[Diplomatico]

From Bloomberg business:

"Things haven't gone as hoped. Eight months later, capital is fleeing the country ($1.58 billion out of equities alone in the last 12 months). The economy is flirting with deflation and a possible recession; both consumer prices and the economy are growing at a meager 0.6 percent pace. Unless the government gets moving on long-postponed structural reforms, the economy could well slip into its own lost decade.

Today’s impeachment proceedings against former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra underscore just how misplaced the junta’s priorities are. Yingluck, Thaksin’s sister and the leader Prayuth ousted, is ostensibly being scrutinized for her program of buying rice from farmers at above-market rates. She’s already out of office, though; impeachment might ban her from politics for another five years. The proceedings are meant more to appease the royalist, Bangkok-dominated “Yellow Shirt” faction that supported the coup and has long sought to strip Thaksin and his lieutenants of any shred of political power.

Rather than going after personalities, the junta would do better to eliminate Thaksin’s more wasteful, inefficient policies. Instead, in order to placate the masses who once formed the backbone of Thaksin’s support, Prayuth has issued fiscal handouts to rural areas, tossed loans to farmers and asked consumer-product makers to freeze prices."

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-22/thailand-coup-leaders-need-to-revamp-economy-faster?cmpid=yhoo

[rubl]

How can an unelected 'panel' impeach a former PM? I mean it is ludicrous! if she's guilty of corruption arrest her and take her to court, they don't and won't, this is all about politics and negating opposition

She charged with 'negligence', not corruption. The NLA is the representative of parliament and Senate, so they can start impeachment procedures.

Ms. Yingluck failed in her duty as PM, so try to impeach. Next is the trial you so anxiously await in the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders.

[binjalin]

How can an unelected 'panel' impeach a former PM? I mean it is ludicrous! if she's guilty of corruption arrest her and take her to court, they don't and won't, this is all about politics and negating opposition

She charged with 'negligence', not corruption. The NLA is the representative of parliament and Senate, so they can start impeachment procedures.

Ms. Yingluck failed in her duty as PM, so try to impeach. Next is the trial you so anxiously await in the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders.

dear Uncle Rubl - good morning to you - how can one be "impeached" if one is not in office? you might profit from reading the post proceeding yours from Bloomberg

[rubl]

How can an unelected 'panel' impeach a former PM? I mean it is ludicrous! if she's guilty of corruption arrest her and take her to court, they don't and won't, this is all about politics and negating opposition

She charged with 'negligence', not corruption. The NLA is the representative of parliament and Senate, so they can start impeachment procedures.

Ms. Yingluck failed in her duty as PM, so try to impeach. Next is the trial you so anxiously await in the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders.

dear Uncle Rubl - good morning to you - how can one be "impeached" if one is not in office? you might profit from reading the post proceeding yours from Bloomberg

How can one? Just pay attention today.

As for the Bloomberg article, it seems a bit uninformed. Mind you they don't seem to disagree with going after Ms. Yingluck, only with the timing.

[seajae]

"The proceedings are meant more to appease the royalist", wow, so the ptp and tarit didnt chase down the dems and set up bullsh*t charges against them?, they didnt ignore all the other cases they were supposed to be investigating, the ptp didnt ignore the "please explain" for the issuing of thaksins passport that was hand delivered to a wanted criminal, etc etc. Seems that we only get to see this sort of report when things go against thaksin, the ptp and reds otherwise they say nothing, why is that. Why is it that bloomberg were silent on all the other things that were instigated by thaksins ptp stooges but are now trying to make headlines when the shoe is on the other foot, could it be some sort of influence from afar......

[PepperMe]

The panel will be awaiting the rulings today before they decide on the next course of action.

These lawyers can challenge all they want, after all... They are probably charging the brain dead bimbo 200K for each and every day they work for her.

They must love this.

[rubl]

The BP in their online article on 'axe poised to fall' also has an interesting titbit on the non-involvement of that golf caddy advisor.

It would seem that 10 former Pheu Thai party MPs went to Dubai, for some golf advise I guess.

[Diplomatico]

could it be some sort of influence from afar......

Oh, that's right, you're the guy that thinks Thaksin controls the entire rest of the world's media, lol.

Paranoid, much?

[PREM-R]

How can an unelected 'panel' impeach a former PM? I mean it is ludicrous! if she's guilty of corruption arrest her and take her to court, they don't and won't, this is all about politics and negating opposition

She charged with 'negligence', not corruption. The NLA is the representative of parliament and Senate, so they can start impeachment procedures.

Ms. Yingluck failed in her duty as PM, so try to impeach. Next is the trial you so anxiously await in the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders.

dear Uncle Rubl - good morning to you - how can one be "impeached" if one is not in office? you might profit from reading the post proceeding yours from Bloomberg

How can one? Just pay attention today.

As for the Bloomberg article, it seems a bit uninformed. Mind you they don't seem to disagree with going after Ms. Yingluck, only with the timing.

"As for the Bloomberg article, it seems a bit uninformed"

Well of course Bloomberg do not have access to the insight regarding Thai politics that you have.555

[Wombat6]

Just ask the junta.

They have all the answers pre-written.

Just like Yingluk ?????

[Gunna]

The BP in their online article on 'axe poised to fall' also has an interesting titbit on the non-involvement of that golf caddy advisor.

It would seem that 10 former Pheu Thai party MPs went to Dubai, for some golf advise I guess.

Now I know how the $1.58 billion out of equities left the country.

ie get the money out before the charges begin and the investigators follow the money trails

[Baerboxer]

How can an unelected 'panel' impeach a former PM? I mean it is ludicrous! if she's guilty of corruption arrest her and take her to court, they don't and won't, this is all about politics and negating opposition

Your usual try at deflection. All about politics........ <deleted>.

It's about a corrupt government - how can a government openly managed and controlled by a non elected criminal fugitive be anything but corrupt?

This thread is about the former pretend PM's indictment not the ongoing impeachment.

Let's see, for once the OAG might grow some balls and not try and sit on the fence as they normally do, These questions will be a timely reminder to the OAG that they are dealing with a Shin and should think carefully about actually doing their job. The usual Shin intimidation tactics,

Anyone who really believes Yingluck was actually ever a PM or DM or rice committee chair is living the red fantasy.

[Baerboxer]

"The proceedings are meant more to appease the royalist", wow, so the ptp and tarit didnt chase down the dems and set up bullsh*t charges against them?, they didnt ignore all the other cases they were supposed to be investigating, the ptp didnt ignore the "please explain" for the issuing of thaksins passport that was hand delivered to a wanted criminal, etc etc. Seems that we only get to see this sort of report when things go against thaksin, the ptp and reds otherwise they say nothing, why is that. Why is it that bloomberg were silent on all the other things that were instigated by thaksins ptp stooges but are now trying to make headlines when the shoe is on the other foot, could it be some sort of influence from afar......

That's the benefit of hiring the right lobbyists - expensive, but worth every baht when you're spending someone else's money.

Connections with the influential Bankers and Wall street big boys helps too - you can get visas easily then, even if a convicted fugitive on the run.

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

[Diplomatico]

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

Wow, awesome. What movie was this?

[Baerboxer]

could it be some sort of influence from afar......

Oh, that's right, you're the guy that thinks Thaksin controls the entire rest of the world's media, lol.

Paranoid, much?

The Economist had a very pro Shin article, full of inaccuracies. Now Bloomberg. AFP and BBC's Head are famous for their bias towards the Shins whilst ignoring some less savory aspects and distorting the facts to suit.

A Rothschild letter of support for Yinngy in the BP. Why do you think that was? Were they moved by the perceived unjust treatment of someone they see as a brilliant reforming PM and DM, bringing a just and social reform in a democratic way to Thailand. A truly world class stateswoman? Or maybe, they have a more selfish reason?

Thaksin isn't as powerful as he'd like to think on the world stage, but he is useful to those that are; and has built up his connections to them. Thaksin, would on past record, have no concerns about selling Thailand out as long as his family gained. That's a useful trait to some.

[hgma]

I want to return to happiness, as the Boss told us...now it would make me a lot happier if the man in charge could somehow raise the value of the euro against the Thai bath?

Anything else is their business (as usual!!)

Not mine.

[Baerboxer]

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

Wow, awesome. What movie was this?

Why don't you try thinking before writing? It can be enjoyable.

Research the links between Thaksin and clan and Mr. Amsterdam and other lobbyists and PR professionals. Then research how these organizations work.

You might learn something. I'm sure someone will show you how to research if you ask nicely.

[seajae]

could it be some sort of influence from afar......

Oh, that's right, you're the guy that thinks Thaksin controls the entire rest of the world's media, lol.

Paranoid, much?

you obviously cant understand the little bit at the bottom of the press releases that states, who releases it, the ones that always defend thaksin are released by them, strange isnt it but then a gain as a thaksin appologist/lackie you probably are incapable of admitting the truth and avoid answering any questions where you cannot use innuendo and be honest with your replies/facts but we all know this already.

Edited January 23, 2015 by seajae

[seajae]

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

Wow, awesome. What movie was this?

the truth hurts obviously, again trying to spread innuendo and typical bullsh*t we all know and associate with the thaksin apologists. Dont worry, you can always join you heroes when they are convicted if you want, wouldnt be a great loss for anyone

[Diplomatico]

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

Wow, awesome. What movie was this?

the truth hurts obviously, again trying to spread innuendo and typical bullsh*t we all know and associate with the thaksin apologists. Dont worry, you can always join you heroes when they are convicted if you want, wouldnt be a great loss for anyone

Project much, lol? The innuendo and bullsh!t on this thread are from the paranoiacs who imply that Thaksin somehow controls the entire world's media. I haven't seen you or the other paranoid obsessive provide any "facts" that support that claim. See, that's what "innuendo" is.

Don't worry though....there's much less stigma surrounding mental illnesses than in days of yore.

[mikemac]

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

Wow, awesome. What movie was this?

the truth hurts obviously, again trying to spread innuendo and typical bullsh*t we all know and associate with the thaksin apologists. Dont worry, you can always join you heroes when they are convicted if you want, wouldnt be a great loss for anyone

Project much, lol? The innuendo and bullsh!t on this thread are from the paranoiacs who imply that Thaksin somehow controls the entire world's media. I haven't seen you or the other paranoid obsessive provide any "facts" that support that claim. See, that's what "innuendo" is.

Don't worry though....there's much less stigma surrounding mental illnesses than in days of yore.

You have all the qualities of a perfect Thaksin groupie ! My condolences............................................

[elgordo38]

How can an unelected 'panel' impeach a former PM? I mean it is ludicrous! if she's guilty of corruption arrest her and take her to court, they don't and won't, this is all about politics and negating opposition

She charged with 'negligence', not corruption. The NLA is the representative of parliament and Senate, so they can start impeachment procedures.

Ms. Yingluck failed in her duty as PM, so try to impeach. Next is the trial you so anxiously await in the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders.

dear Uncle Rubl - good morning to you - how can one be "impeached" if one is not in office? you might profit from reading the post proceeding yours from Bloomberg

Da thank you I was beginning to think I was the only one asking this question. The floggers await

[seajae]

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

Wow, awesome. What movie was this?

the truth hurts obviously, again trying to spread innuendo and typical bullsh*t we all know and associate with the thaksin apologists. Dont worry, you can always join you heroes when they are convicted if you want, wouldnt be a great loss for anyone

Project much, lol? The innuendo and bullsh!t on this thread are from the paranoiacs who imply that Thaksin somehow controls the entire world's media. I haven't seen you or the other paranoid obsessive provide any "facts" that support that claim. See, that's what "innuendo" is.

Don't worry though....there's much less stigma surrounding mental illnesses than in days of yore.

obviously you cant read very well then again maby these simple letters confuse you, read the bottom of all the positive thaksin crap, it is from the AFP. All the abc's thai news is from the AFP, obviously you are unable to correlate these facts so you need to try to deny it happens. Thats ok though as we all know that the only ones that support thaksin are the uneducated and ignorant, seems you have found your niche in life. Maybe you should look up innuendo, but then you probably already kmow it as its what you do, I simply point to the direction where you can see the facts for yourself if you werent so blinded by your hero worship of the criminal himself, trying to get on the payroll hey.

[rubl]

dear Uncle Rubl - good morning to you - how can one be "impeached" if one is not in office? you might profit from reading the post proceeding yours from Bloomberg

How can one? Just pay attention today.

As for the Bloomberg article, it seems a bit uninformed. Mind you they don't seem to disagree with going after Ms. Yingluck, only with the timing.

"As for the Bloomberg article, it seems a bit uninformed"

Well of course Bloomberg do not have access to the insight regarding Thai politics that you have.555

Well thank you for your kind words. Maybe those 20 years I've lived and worked in Thailand have indeed given me a wee bit of insight.

[candide]

Very little written in the BBC, AFP, that ever makes negative comments about Thaksin and the Shin clan. Now we see similar articles appearing in The Economist and Bloomberg.

Ever wondered why these reporters never write about why Thaksin was removed or his real status at the time, and now claim YL was removed by a military coup too; and ignore all the criminal convictions and charges against Thaksin and his clan? Someone is persuading and influencing them.

Wow, awesome. What movie was this?

the truth hurts obviously, again trying to spread innuendo and typical bullsh*t we all know and associate with the thaksin apologists. Dont worry, you can always join you heroes when they are convicted if you want, wouldnt be a great loss for anyone

You could probably also add several other media to your list..... One question: according to you, which media or news agency is not influenced by the occult power of Mr T?

[mikemac]

dear Uncle Rubl - good morning to you - how can one be "impeached" if one is not in office? you might profit from reading the post proceeding yours from Bloomberg

How can one? Just pay attention today.

As for the Bloomberg article, it seems a bit uninformed. Mind you they don't seem to disagree with going after Ms. Yingluck, only with the timing.

"As for the Bloomberg article, it seems a bit uninformed"

Well of course Bloomberg do not have access to the insight regarding Thai politics that you have.555

Well thank you for your kind words. Maybe those 20 years I've lived and worked in Thailand have indeed given me a wee bit of insight.

As far as getting the facts straight I would say rubl probably has far more insight regarding Thai politics than the author of that one-sided Bloomberg article, one William Pesek.

A journo based in Tokyo who probably knows a lot more about sushi than the sins of the Shins.

His story gave me the impression that he liked to "walk on the red side", or that he is just not aware of the whole sorry saga of the Shin Dynasty.

Maybe I will contact him and ask him.

[Diplomatico]

As far as getting the facts straight I would say rubl probably has far more insight regarding Thai politics than the author of that one-sided Bloomberg article, one William Pesek.

A journo based in Tokyo who probably knows a lot more about sushi than the sins of the Shins.

His story gave me the impression that he liked to "walk on the red side", or that he is just not aware of the whole sorry saga of the Shin Dynasty.

Maybe I will contact him and ask him.

That would actually be pretty funny if you did. Be interesting to hear what his response would be.