Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration rejected 90 days report

[Basho]

They shows the following notification:

SURATTHANI IMMIGRATION (SAMUI)

90 DAYS NOTIFICATIONS:

FROM DECEMBER 29,2014, NOTIFICATION OF RESIDENCE MUST BE REPORTED AT THE IMMIGRATION OFFICE WHERE YOU APPLIED AND RECEIVED A TEMPORARY STAY

I could't find any information regarding this issue on the Thai Immigration Bureau page,

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days

Is it only Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration policy?

In my opinion, residential report normally submitted to the provincial immigration office where the foreigner stays, as it means.

I am totally confused now.

Basho

[ubonjoe]

It has been a rule for some time that you have to do your 90 day reports at the office where you applied for your extension of stay (problem with the way wrote it on the notice).

Before if you were traveling around Thailand you could make a report to any immigration office if you had a local to put on address on the TM47 form. Apparently they have now come out with a new rule with no public notice of it that you can no longer do this.

If you move to a new residence you have to notify the local office of this so that you can make reports to them.

[Mario2008]

Other persons also reported this. Not having seen the official rule, my best guess is:

It means that you do the 90 day reproting to the office where you received your current extension of stay. In the past persons could also report to another office if they were on a short holiday in another province.

Say you live in Pattaya and go on holiday to Surathani. In the past you could also report to Surathani if you stayed there while your 90 day report is due, as you report your current address. The new rule is meant to say that you now only can report to your own immigration office (In this case Pattaya), even when on a short holiday to Surathani..

It keeps the 90 day reporting in one place.

[Colabamumbai]

Slightly off topic but could not find the thread. Am moving apartments in Kalasin, do I have to report address change to my reporting office in Sakhon Nakhon immediately, or can it wait until my next 90 day report? And is there a particular form? Thanks.

[ubonjoe]

Slightly off topic but could not find the thread. Am moving apartments in Kalasin, do I have to report address change to my reporting office in Sakhon Nakhon immediately, or can it wait until my next 90 day report? And is there a particular form? Thanks.

Since you will be moving within the same area most offices will let you wait until you do your next 90 day report.

A TM28 change of address form would be used. But some office don't want them.

[asiaexpat]

Slightly off topic but could not find the thread. Am moving apartments in Kalasin, do I have to report address change to my reporting office in Sakhon Nakhon immediately, or can it wait until my next 90 day report? And is there a particular form? Thanks.

Since you will be moving within the same area most offices will let you wait until you do your next 90 day report.

A TM28 change of address form would be used. But some office don't want them.

However, the form clearly states within 24 hours. Fine is not big if charged at all.

[Basho]

Other persons also reported this. Not having seen the official rule, my best guess is:

It means that you do the 90 day reproting to the office where you received your current extension of stay. In the past persons could also report to another office if they were on a short holiday in another province.

Say you live in Pattaya and go on holiday to Surathani. In the past you could also report to Surathani if you stayed there while your 90 day report is due, as you report your current address. The new rule is meant to say that you now only can report to your own immigration office (In this case Pattaya), even when on a short holiday to Surathani..

It keeps the 90 day reporting in one place.

Hi Mario2008, maybe it is the right choice.

Previously I've sent the report by mail to the BKK Bureau from Surat Thani province, then they returned the receipt with a notification saying next time I should submit it to Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration. I followed it and once Surat Thani office accepted it.

My O-visa was issued at BKK Bureau. Do you know they accept the report by registered mail again?

[evadgib]

If enough people raise this with their Embassies they may be prompted into seeking clarification via official channels; Info that would then be made public.

(Particularly applies if anyone incurs overstay while trying to adhere to previously accepted practice)

HTH

[Colabamumbai]

Thanks both for your replies and thanks Ubon for your constant help over 5 years now.

[ubonjoe]

Hi Mario2008, maybe it is the right choice.

Previously I've sent the report by mail to the BKK Bureau from Surat Thani province, then they returned the receipt with a notification saying next time I should submit it to Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration. I followed it and once Surat Thani office accepted it.

My O-visa was issued at BKK Bureau. Do you know they accept the report by registered mail again?

It seems you are now living in Samui now not Bangkok.

You should change your address to Samui and they should accept your 90 day report.

If you still have an address in Bangkok you can use on the TM47 form and the return envelope you could send it to Bangkok.

[Basho]

Hi Mario2008, maybe it is the right choice.

Previously I've sent the report by mail to the BKK Bureau from Surat Thani province, then they returned the receipt with a notification saying next time I should submit it to Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration. I followed it and once Surat Thani office accepted it.

My O-visa was issued at BKK Bureau. Do you know they accept the report by registered mail again?

It seems you are now living in Samui now not Bangkok.

You should change your address to Samui and they should accept your 90 day report.

If you still have an address in Bangkok you can use on the TM47 form and the return envelope you could send it to Bangkok.

Hi ubonjoe, as I upload the notification from Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration above, they say "AT THE IMMIGRATION OFFICE WHERE YOU APPLIED AND RECEIVED A TEMPORARY STAY", not mention current address.

The officer actually only checked the place of the bureau of my visa, then they rejected.

[ubonjoe]

Hi Mario2008, maybe it is the right choice.

Previously I've sent the report by mail to the BKK Bureau from Surat Thani province, then they returned the receipt with a notification saying next time I should submit it to Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration. I followed it and once Surat Thani office accepted it.

My O-visa was issued at BKK Bureau. Do you know they accept the report by registered mail again?

It seems you are now living in Samui now not Bangkok.

You should change your address to Samui and they should accept your 90 day report.

If you still have an address in Bangkok you can use on the TM47 form and the return envelope you could send it to Bangkok.

Hi ubonjoe, as I upload the notification from Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration above, they say "AT THE IMMIGRATION OFFICE WHERE YOU APPLIED AND RECEIVED A TEMPORARY STAY", not mention current address.

The officer actually only checked the place of the bureau of my visa, then they rejected.

Immigration would not make a rule that would keep you from moving to another province.

Even the old rule required you to change your address if you moved.

You should go back and tell them you are now living in Samui and have proof residence to show them.

[Basho]

Hi Mario2008, maybe it is the right choice.

Previously I've sent the report by mail to the BKK Bureau from Surat Thani province, then they returned the receipt with a notification saying next time I should submit it to Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration. I followed it and once Surat Thani office accepted it.

My O-visa was issued at BKK Bureau. Do you know they accept the report by registered mail again?

It seems you are now living in Samui now not Bangkok.

You should change your address to Samui and they should accept your 90 day report.

If you still have an address in Bangkok you can use on the TM47 form and the return envelope you could send it to Bangkok.

Hi ubonjoe, as I upload the notification from Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration above, they say "AT THE IMMIGRATION OFFICE WHERE YOU APPLIED AND RECEIVED A TEMPORARY STAY", not mention current address.

The officer actually only checked the place of the bureau of my visa, then they rejected.

Immigration would not make a rule that would keep you from moving to another province.

Even the old rule required you to change your address if you moved.

You should go back and tell them you are now living in Samui and have proof residence to show them.

How do officers check the registered address for applicants, on database by PC?

It seemed they didn't.

Or whenever submitting the 90 days report, should I show the document of proof?

[colinneil]

My immigration office is Khonkaen. Wife does my 90 day reports there for me.

2 years ago, when we were staying near Mae hong son. immigration would not let me do 90 day there.

We drove to Mae siriang , in/out 5 minutes 90 day report no problem.

In my experience with Thai immigration, if the officer is having a bad day bye bye if they are happy ,you have no problem.

[ubonjoe]

If you officially change your address they will have your current one in their main data base. If not it will still be Bangkok in your case.

For 90 day reports they have a separate system and it will have the address your TM47 has on it. They can print out a TM47 with everything on it if your address is correct.

Once you change your address you will not need proof of residence again until you do your next extension.

[Basho]

My immigration office is Khonkaen. Wife does my 90 day reports there for me.

2 years ago, when we were staying near Mae hong son. immigration would not let me do 90 day there.

We drove to Mae siriang , in/out 5 minutes 90 day report no problem.

In my experience with Thai immigration, if the officer is having a bad day bye bye if they are happy ,you have no problem.

Ahaha. You are right. I think Monday is the worst.

[Basho]

They can print out a TM47 with everything on it if your address is correct.

At Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration, will they do?

[ubonjoe]

They can print out a TM47 with everything on it if your address is correct.

At Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration, will they do?

I think Samui is one of the offices reported as telling people all they need is their passport because they printout the TM47 form for you to sign.

[TerryLH]

"(Particularly applies if anyone incurs overstay while trying to adhere to previously accepted practice)"

Being late reporting, for whatever reason, does not put you on overstay.

[Basho]

They can print out a TM47 with everything on it if your address is correct.

At Surat Thani (Koh Samui) Immigration, will they do?

I think Samui is one of the offices reported as telling people all they need is their passport because they printout the TM47 form for you to sign.

Thanks, ubonjoe.

I will try to call to the Samui office tomorrow.

Later post the info here.

[Jessi]

Other persons also reported this. Not having seen the official rule, my best guess is:

It means that you do the 90 day reproting to the office where you received your current extension of stay. In the past persons could also report to another office if they were on a short holiday in another province.

Say you live in Pattaya and go on holiday to Surathani. In the past you could also report to Surathani if you stayed there while your 90 day report is due, as you report your current address. The new rule is meant to say that you now only can report to your own immigration office (In this case Pattaya), even when on a short holiday to Surathani..

It keeps the 90 day reporting in one place.

I reported about this happen to me at Korat Immigration on 16/1/2015.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/791437-90-days-renewal-new-rule-since-january-1st/page-2?hl=90+day+report#entry8948657

As I said then, I notified them of change of address and it should all be on their computer. Can we get clarified on this new rule. It seem that only Immigration know about it.

[Jessi]

If enough people raise this with their Embassies they may be prompted into seeking clarification via official channels; Info that would then be made public.

(Particularly applies if anyone incurs overstay while trying to adhere to previously accepted practice)

HTH

Its seems that Immigration make up new rules but they don't tell anyone about them. I thought they were going to make the 90 day reporting easier, yeh right dream on.

[digitalchromakey]

In Phuket they now have adopted a separate counter/queuing system for Address Registration with their own, home brewed form.

Documentary requirements:

1) Signed (by Landlord) copy of House Book.

2) Signed copy of Landlord's ID (and house book if not landlord not registered at your address).

3) Copy of Rental contract (presumably needed if Landlord does not share your address).

Address registration is now a pre-requisite for one year extensions.

Whilst I was there they refused to process paperwork for someone from neighbouring Phang Nga Province, but I guess they would have allowed address registration as a first step.

[ubonjoe]

Whilst I was there they refused to process paperwork for someone from neighbouring Phang Nga Province, but I guess they would have allowed address registration as a first step.

Phang Nga has its own immigration office. You have to use the immigration office designated for where you live.

[Basho]

I called and talked with a Samui Immigration officer.

She said anyone should submit the 90 days report to the bureau where the temporary extension for Visa was applied, in my case my O-visa was extended at BKK bureau, therefore they cannot accept it due to the new rule.

After the next time in case I will extend my Visa at Koh Samui office, they can accept the 90 days report there.

I have sent the report to BKK bureau by registered mail today, even though I had a desire to ignore the obligation for a moment.

[ubonjoe]

I think they are misquoting or misreading the new policy or rule.

You could of called the 1178 or 1111 hotlines to try and get things sorted out.

[digitalchromakey]

Whilst I was there they refused to process paperwork for someone from neighbouring Phang Nga Province, but I guess they would have allowed address registration as a first step.

Phang Nga has its own immigration office. You have to use the immigration office designated for where you live.

Sorry, I didn't make my post clear enough.

Obviously you have to report at the immigration office where you live, but my point was that if one had moved from Phang Nga to Phuket they would almost certainly accept an address registration.