Tottenham Thread

[rijit]

All due respect to Spurs - IMO they had a great season.

However some of the players being mentioned on the Spurs Forums as potential transfer targets is ridiculous

Two of them have gone already to Monaco

Robben was one of them - of course he is going to join Spurs after helping to win a CL Trophy. Plus a host of other players who would never join Spurs

Now they are talking about Wilfried Bony - a target for West Ham - West Ham should just have stayed quiet and signed the guy - put a nice buy-out clause in the contract and wait for Spurs to buy him down the line

The main problem you have is Levy - he is related to Joe Lewis so is never going to get sacked

Levy is one of those businessmen (arguably) where everything is personal - look at the Modric situation - they got £8 million less for him rather than sell to Chelsea.

Sell the guy and use the extra money to buy a player that is motivated and hungry to play for Spurs!

Until you get rid of Levy you will only ever go so far......

Good to see new spurs 'experts', and presumably fans turn up, WELCOME.

Funny, I'd bet this thread has been the most active thread since the season ended. A combo of Bale's future and kicking 'em when they're down.

Yeah 4 better or worse, often worse, gough any one?, gossip has always almost a cultural more 4 the club and 4 generations of spurs fans.

[Soi Sauce]

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

Edited May 26, 2013 by Soi Sauce

[uptheos]

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

"it's good to talk"..................ahh the early days of BT.

[smokie36]

Kindly stop cluttering up this fine thread with inane off topic chatter.

Cheers.

[rijit]

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

unlike soi sauce, chat goes with anything

[carmine]

60 million (quid that is) will be enough, Levy would be drooling at that.

Its the presedential elections at Madrid as i'm sure you are aware of. Peres, Mendes know full well the priority is to get a contract extention from Ronaldo and they've said as much. We have business agreements in place, affiliate agreements with Madrid and any deal for Bale could be agreed well in advance as i'm sure it will. My view would be Bale to Madrid the season after next. In the meantime they will sign up Ronaldo, appoint a new coach, recall Casillas to first team and rebuild the team unity that Mourinho destroyed.

[jellydog]

60 million (quid that is) will be enough, Levy would be drooling at that.

Its the presedential elections at Madrid as i'm sure you are aware of. Peres, Mendes know full well the priority is to get a contract extention from Ronaldo and they've said as much. We have business agreements in place, affiliate agreements with Madrid and any deal for Bale could be agreed well in advance as i'm sure it will. My view would be Bale to Madrid the season after next. In the meantime they will sign up Ronaldo, appoint a new coach, recall Casillas to first team and rebuild the team unity that Mourinho destroyed.

Sounds about right to me. At one point I felt sure Ronaldo would leave, sooner rather than later. But that seems much less likely now.

[carmine]

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

Mate to be fair, you've only posted about three times on our thread but in each post there is nothing other than witless boorish sniping. You are behaving like an absolute bellend and we'd prefer it if you set up a separate thread to slag off Spurs to your little hearts content and then other members can make up their own minds whether they are unhappy enough with their lives to bother to read your humourless dross.

[carmine]

60 million (quid that is) will be enough, Levy would be drooling at that.

Its the presedential elections at Madrid as i'm sure you are aware of. Peres, Mendes know full well the priority is to get a contract extention from Ronaldo and they've said as much. We have business agreements in place, affiliate agreements with Madrid and any deal for Bale could be agreed well in advance as i'm sure it will. My view would be Bale to Madrid the season after next. In the meantime they will sign up Ronaldo, appoint a new coach, recall Casillas to first team and rebuild the team unity that Mourinho destroyed.

Sounds about right to me. At one point I felt sure Ronaldo would leave, sooner rather than later. But that seems much less likely now.

Ronaldo's at his peak and both he and his agent are well aware they must financially capitalize at this time. Likewise, Florentino Perez or whoever for that matter cannot afford to be seen losing their marquee player at a time close to the elections. Remember, Real Madrid lose players when they want to not when the player decides in the same way as they sack Mourinho's Capello's et al.

[mrtoad]

Kindly stop cluttering up this fine thread with inane off topic chatter.

Cheers.

The irony

[smokie36]

Kindly stop cluttering up this fine thread with inane off topic chatter.

Cheers.

The irony

You may well be right mate but at least we try to inject more humour than a plate of crispy duck and pancakes!

[carmine]

Kindly stop cluttering up this fine thread with inane off topic chatter.

Cheers.

The irony

Of which toad you are a major contributor

Edited May 27, 2013 by carmine

[Chicog]

I'm with Smokie, laughter is the best medicine. In that spirit.....

Spurs: Ultimately, What IS the Point of Them?

Posted: 27/05/2013 00:00

As a Leeds fan, I'm quite familiar with the whole big club/small club debate - who qualifies as 'big', what are the criteria? If you currently have a crap team, does that mean you're suddenly a crap club? And so on and so forth, ad nauseam.

It's not really a question that preoccupies me - certainly not to the extent of the Freudian fixation with size that afflicts the plastic followers of a certain Salford-based franchise - but it can be annoying if you follow a club like Leeds, with all the rich tradition of the Revie era and even allowing for the fact that our history before those great days was a bit of a void. But what I'd normally argue is that, look - we've been Champions three times in my lifetime, we have a global fanbase and a worldwide notoriety (I won't call it adoration), a massive web presence which shows how many people count Leeds United as a big part of their lives, and absolutely no significant local rivals at all. Ergo, we are big. End of.

But what of certain other clubs who are routinely referred to as big, not to say massive or even as a 'mega-club'? Tottenham Hotspur are a bit of a peculiar animal in this respect. From some points of view, they are certainly a club of significant size. They have a decent stadium in a major city. They deal towards the top end of the transfer market and they've been a steady member of the top-flight since the mid-Seventies, picking up the odd trinket here and there. But Spurs have two major problems: the first is that they haven't been Champions since 1961 - a major flaw for a club with any pretensions to size and a place in the forefront of the game. The second problem may be succinctly summed-up as 'Arsenal FC'.

Arsenal have been stomping all over poor old Spurs for a good while now - and of course, they've just been and gone and done it again, edging their rivals out of a fourth Champions League qualifying slot that for so long looked destined for White Hart Lane. The presence of Arsenal as Tottenham's neighbours, rivals and perennial bêtes-noires is a major obstacle to their chances of ever being regarded as a mega-club, a status Arsenal wear casually, as of right.

Arsenal, after all, have generally been top dogs in North London, certainly over the past 50 years. They've had stability in the managerial chair since the mid-Nineties and not that long before Wenger, it was George Graham importing large quantities of silverware into the stadium graced by the famous marble halls. Even their recent potless run has not detracted from Arsenal's ability to regard Tottenham from a lofty position of pre-eminence. In this fallow period, the Gooners have played football of a sumptuous beauty and brilliance, and just as importantly they have managed the transition from a famous old home to a spectacular and world-class new one. The financial burden that went with this is all but seen off now - and yet it's a process that Spurs have still to embark upon, lacking any viable option for staying put. Will they negotiate a move as well as the Arse have? Highly doubtful.

The sad fact as far as Tottenham are concerned is that this continued subordination to a comparatively humble status will always be a glass ceiling that they will find impossible to break through, certainly if Arsenal now blossom into one of their title-winning incarnations, capable of dominating the domestic scene for years at a stretch. And Spurs need to be up there with the big boys if they are to come anywhere near the kind of status their fans expect and desire.

The youngest of those fans who can remember the last Spurs team to be champions will be coming up for retirement any time now. That's a hell of an indictment for a so-called 'big club' - not really élite form at all. Consider all the other clubs who have any real pretensions to this elevated status in the game. They've all been Champions at some point in the last 40 years - even Man U, who couldn't win the real thing after 1967.

This latest narrow squeak for Champions League qualification will have been a great relief to Arsenal, but being on the wrong end of that cliff-hanger could yet prove to be a major disaster for Spurs. There must be a very real chance that they will lose the jewel in their crown, and however many millions Gareth Bale might bring in, it's difficult to see where Tottenham might shop for a replacement of anything like the same quality.

All those players will be gobbled up by the Champions League cartel. Tottenham are in very significant danger of becoming the richest club to have their noses pressed up against the window of the House of Quality, yearning to be inside but time and again kept out of the spotlight by their more illustrious and increasingly celebrated, decorated neighbours.

That's a scary prospect for the proud fans of White Hart Lane, but it's entirely realistic. Spurs may just have blown their chances of ever again being thought of as a genuinely BIG club. And if that's the case - then really, what IS the point of Tottenham Hotspur?

[smokie36]

Ten years of barren failure Chicoq.

[Chicog]

Ten years of barren failure Chicoq.

Surely you mean 52?

[smokie36]

Ten years of barren failure Chicoq.

Surely you mean 52?

Most amusing. I'm sure your French flop finds it funny.

[tigerfish]

It's the we nearly did it thread, or we nearly signed him...

or the, we cocked it up again thread and how about our chairman couldn't organize a p@#$ up in a brewery thread.

[tigerfish]

^ mind you, he's that <deleted> tight i'd be amazed if anyone could get p@#$%^ up in a brewery with the amount of money he spends !

[mrtoad]

Kindly stop cluttering up this fine thread with inane off topic chatter.

Cheers.

The irony

Of which toad you are a major contributor

only reciprocating Carmel

[Chicog]

Ten years of barren failure Chicoq.

Surely you mean 52?

Most amusing. I'm sure your French flop finds it funny.

Our Ladies team have won more trophies than your pub team.

[smokie36]

Ten years of barren failure Chicoq.

Surely you mean 52?

Most amusing. I'm sure your French flop finds it funny.

Our Ladies team have won more trophies than your pub team.

I hear migsy is a top goalie.

[smokie36]

It's the we nearly did it thread, or we nearly signed him...

or the, we cocked it up again thread and how about our chairman couldn't organize a p@#$ up in a brewery thread.

Agree with the last bit. Steptoe and nephew.

[rijit]

I'm with Smokie, laughter is the best medicine. In that spirit.....

Spurs: Ultimately, What IS the Point of Them?

Posted: 27/05/2013 00:00

As a Leeds fan, I'm quite familiar with the whole big club/small club debate - who qualifies as 'big', what are the criteria? If you currently have a crap team, does that mean you're suddenly a crap club? And so on and so forth, ad nauseam.

It's not really a question that preoccupies me - certainly not to the extent of the Freudian fixation with size that afflicts the plastic followers of a certain Salford-based franchise - but it can be annoying if you follow a club like Leeds, with all the rich tradition of the Revie era and even allowing for the fact that our history before those great days was a bit of a void. But what I'd normally argue is that, look - we've been Champions three times in my lifetime, we have a global fanbase and a worldwide notoriety (I won't call it adoration), a massive web presence which shows how many people count Leeds United as a big part of their lives, and absolutely no significant local rivals at all. Ergo, we are big. End of.

But what of certain other clubs who are routinely referred to as big, not to say massive or even as a 'mega-club'? Tottenham Hotspur are a bit of a peculiar animal in this respect. From some points of view, they are certainly a club of significant size. They have a decent stadium in a major city. They deal towards the top end of the transfer market and they've been a steady member of the top-flight since the mid-Seventies, picking up the odd trinket here and there. But Spurs have two major problems: the first is that they haven't been Champions since 1961 - a major flaw for a club with any pretensions to size and a place in the forefront of the game. The second problem may be succinctly summed-up as 'Arsenal FC'.

Yeah , now that could only be written by a middle aged Yorkshire-man, far to much volume and absolutely no wit.

[Soi Sauce]

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

Mate to be fair, you've only posted about three times on our thread but in each post there is nothing other than witless boorish sniping. You are behaving like an absolute bellend and we'd prefer it if you set up a separate thread to slag off Spurs to your little hearts content and then other members can make up their own minds whether they are unhappy enough with their lives to bother to read your humourless dross.

Is there a difference between humorless and mindless? And wasn't it a spurs manager who said, "They used to be a football team?" Think his name was keef burkinshaw.

As for slagging, there ain't none. Only troof.

Edited May 27, 2013 by Soi Sauce

[rijit]

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

Mate to be fair, you've only posted about three times on our thread but in each post there is nothing other than witless boorish sniping. You are behaving like an absolute bellend and we'd prefer it if you set up a separate thread to slag off Spurs to your little hearts content and then other members can make up their own minds whether they are unhappy enough with their lives to bother to read your humourless dross.

Is there a difference between humorless and mindless? And wasn't it a spurs manager who said, "They used to be a football team?" Think his name was keef burkinshaw.

As for slagging, there ain't none. Only troof.

If you've got something of interest to say ,,, feel free but otherwise take a hint!!!! AND if you're gonna quote get it right it was 'there used to be a football club over there', burkinshaw said it as he was leaving spurs in reference to scholars rather chaotic flotation and its effects.on the club.

[smokie36]

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

Mate to be fair, you've only posted about three times on our thread but in each post there is nothing other than witless boorish sniping. You are behaving like an absolute bellend and we'd prefer it if you set up a separate thread to slag off Spurs to your little hearts content and then other members can make up their own minds whether they are unhappy enough with their lives to bother to read your humourless dross.

Is there a difference between humorless and mindless? And wasn't it a spurs manager who said, "They used to be a football team?" Think his name was keef burkinshaw.

As for slagging, there ain't none. Only troof.

If you've got something of interest to say ,,, feel free but otherwise take a hint!!!! AND if you're gonna quote get it right it was 'there used to be a football club over there', burkinshaw said it as he was leaving spurs in reference to scholars rather chaotic flotation and its effects.on the club.

I'm still waiting for anything intelligent or witty from this poster. Looks like it might be a long time arriving.

[Soi Sauce]

But I can't find anything of interest on this thread. Why should I be different?

If you've got something of interest to say ,,, feel free but otherwise take a hint!!!! AND if you're gonna quote get it right it was 'there used to be a football club over there', burkinshaw said it as he was leaving spurs in reference to scholars rather chaotic flotation and its effects.on the club.

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

Mate to be fair, you've only posted about three times on our thread but in each post there is nothing other than witless boorish sniping. You are behaving like an absolute bellend and we'd prefer it if you set up a separate thread to slag off Spurs to your little hearts content and then other members can make up their own minds whether they are unhappy enough with their lives to bother to read your humourless dross.

Is there a difference between humorless and mindless? And wasn't it a spurs manager who said, "They used to be a football team?" Think his name was keef burkinshaw.

As for slagging, there ain't none. Only troof.

Is there a difference between humorless and mindless? And wasn't it a spurs manager who said, "They used to be a football team?" Think his name was keef burkinshaw.

Why 400 pages plus about a 5th rate team?

Mate to be fair, you've only posted about three times on our thread but in each post there is nothing other than witless boorish sniping. You are behaving like an absolute bellend and we'd prefer it if you set up a separate thread to slag off Spurs to your little hearts content and then other members can make up their own minds whether they are unhappy enough with their lives to bother to read your humourless dross.

As for slagging, there ain't none. Only troof.

If you've got something of interest to say ,,, feel free but otherwise take a hint!!!! AND if you're gonna quote get it right it was 'there used to be a football club over there', burkinshaw said it as he was leaving spurs in reference to scholars rather chaotic flotation and its effects.on the club.

[smokie36]

Kindly take this drivel elsewhere Soi Splutter.

Either engage us in amusing banter or intelligent conversation.

You have gone from boring to tedious at this point.

[rijit]

Is the Soi sauced?

Edited May 27, 2013 by rijit

[Soi Sauce]

ok, I'll go.

But why 400 plus pages for this lot when the Arse only rate 185?

Empty vessels, like trophy cabs, etc.

Enjoy europa.

Bale, where are't thou?

Edited May 28, 2013 by Soi Sauce