UDD leader Jatuporn sentenced to 2 years in jail for defaming former PM Abhisit

[greenchair]

What did he say as defamation to get 2 years?

He said that the former premier was suppressing the protesters.

The protesters at the time were fighting to have elections.

A protest that coincidentally kicked off days after Thaksin had his ill gotten gains seized.

Yup - all about elections.

Try seizing the ill gotten gains from the rest of the political machine and see how far you get.

One of the wonderful things about --------- is that. The people can prosecute wrong doers. The people can investigate wrong doers. The people can hold all public servants accountable. Something they are not able to do presently.

[jayjayjayjay]

Are the courts making a statement or are they making an example , we all remember motor mouth Jatuporn, , if the PTP ever become a political party again they must remember to tick all the boxes , brain dead idiots must not apply , however I think that former P.M. Abhist had more than this to contend with, 2 years for this or was it for a combination other outbursts as well.

Of course it's the later, he is being made an example of. This jaunta have no intention of reconsiliation, and this WILL lead to civil war. For this very reason I have left Thailand after 25 years of work and investment there. Why did Kasit the foul mouth ex-Foreign Minister just

recently get aquitted of the same offense, I quote

"But the court overruled the defamation charge reasoning that Thaksin was a former prime minister and a well known public figure whom everyone could criticise.

Although some wordings in the criticism was impolite, but the public address was made with honesty to protect the ~ and national interest."

A double standard that is at the essessence of why the majority poor will raise arms on Bangkok streets in the coming future if the upper middle class and elites don't gain an understanding of what they are feeling at heart.

Tear me apart as the messanger, but it's not me whos mind you have to persuade with your agruement, it's 45 million north and north-easterners you have to convince.

[MaxLee]

2 years and soon to be bail for "spitting" in somebody's face....

[BKKBrit]

Abhisit should take the high-road, and win major points amongst former PT supporters if he was to withdraw the charges. This would show that he puts unity above self and would soften hearts with his detractors.

[Muhendis]

I swear to god, the next person who writes 'gaol'...

gaol gaol gaol

Yep. Man. City scored 'em all.

[Muhendis]

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I see all usual Yellows out and celebrating here again as usual even though you don't seem to know what he said. Seems the lot of you blindly idolize the junta like many north Koreans do. Any opposing voice must be jailed seems to be your mantra. I see the one-sided purge continues.

I'm not a "usual yellow" and I most certainly would not support the reds. But the current administration which you refer to as a junta, has done more good for this country in such a short time, than all the politicians have done in the past ten years or more. There are many cases outstanding of wrongs committed by the previous administration. We will be hearing about judgements on the activities of all the lesser ex-MPs as time goes by I'm sure.

" ... ex MPs" I think your more than generous. Salaried immoral yes men with no capability and no conscience would be more appropriate.

I take your point. MP's and ex-MP's are rarely statesmen of integrity and never gentlemen.

[siampolee]

BKKBrit post # 126.

Abhisit should take the high-road, and win major points amongst former PT supporters if he was to withdraw the charges. This would show that he puts unity above self and would soften hearts with his detractors.

Like the example as set by Thaksin and the P.T.P. in general?

[BKKBrit]

BKKBrit post # 126.

Abhisit should take the high-road, and win major points amongst former PT supporters if he was to withdraw the charges. This would show that he puts unity above self and would soften hearts with his detractors.

Like the example as set by Thaksin and the P.T.P. in general?

And what don't you understand when I said that Abhisit should take 'the high road'? What has a personal defamation case got to do with Thaksin? Jeesh..get over him already.

[siampolee]

BKKBrit post # 130.

And what don't you understand when I said that Abhisit should take 'the high road'? What has a personal defamation case got to do with Thaksin? Jeesh..get over him already.

What I was saying is that f one side should do as the other sides should also do it.

To date there has been no positive move in that direction by any of the involved parties.

I was not getting het up over Thaksin and the P.T.P. I was commenting about their inaction's in the reconciliation process..

No politically biased comment was intended or in fact intentionally made by me, however it seems as if you in error took the post as a politically biased one. .

[billd766]

Are the courts making a statement or are they making an example , we all remember motor mouth Jatuporn, , if the PTP ever become a political party again they must remember to tick all the boxes , brain dead idiots must not apply , however I think that former P.M. Abhist had more than this to contend with, 2 years for this or was it for a combination other outbursts as well.

Of course it's the later, he is being made an example of. This jaunta have no intention of reconsiliation, and this WILL lead to civil war. For this very reason I have left Thailand after 25 years of work and investment there. Why did Kasit the foul mouth ex-Foreign Minister just

recently get aquitted of the same offense, I quote

"But the court overruled the defamation charge reasoning that Thaksin was a former prime minister and a well known public figure whom everyone could criticise.

Although some wordings in the criticism was impolite, but the public address was made with honesty to protect the ~ and national interest."

A double standard that is at the essessence of why the majority poor will raise arms on Bangkok streets in the coming future if the upper middle class and elites don't gain an understanding of what they are feeling at heart.

Tear me apart as the messanger, but it's not me whos mind you have to persuade with your agruement, it's 45 million north and north-easterners you have to convince.

You may care to refer to this and do a little research before posting.

The population of Thailand is estimated at 67,222,972 as of July 1 2014. ref https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=population+of+thailand+2014

The demographics reference came from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Thailand

The vast majority of Isaan people (1/3 of Thailand population) are ethnic Lao intermixed with remnants of Khmer Empire blood (and speak Isaan language).

I have used the 1/3 figure as a rough guide but you can use any figure you like

Now 1/3 of 67,222,972 comes to about 22,407,657 and perhaps 1/3 again are too young or not permitted to vote which leaves about 14,938,438. Not all of them would vote PTP say perhaps again 1/3 of them which leaves 9,958,958. A tad short of the 45 million you claim. I would think that not all of them would vote PTP this time especially the poor farmers who are now worse off and deeper in debt than before.

I also think that the PTP have done a lot of convincing already against themselves.

[SABloke]

so let's be clear about the court bias :

• it's OK to call Thaksin a republican if you're yellow
• it's not OK to point out the true about a PM if you're red

Wrong. Some reds have had defamation cases against them dismissed recently.

The whole defamation laws and practices are ludicrous. Thaksin and Tarit in particular initiated them like confetti or used them as threats every time someone said anything they didn't like. Even non Thais use them - ask Andrew Drummond or Andy Hall.

PTP have and their supporters whine court bias every time a ruling goes against their agenda. They must never ever be wrong or do anything wrong and absolutely work perfectly within the law and all procedures to achieve the innocence they proclaim - if only.

Right. There may be cases against one side or the other which are dismissed, but roll up the numbers and the court bias is obvious.

Or are you saying that there isn't one?

In this case, how is it defamation to state that Abhisit ordered a crack down on protesters?

It doesn't show court bias exclusively. There are TWO possible scenarios (one which you conveniently ignore): 1 it shows court bias BUT 2...perhaps one side files more BS lawsuits than the other

[mikemac]

Speaking out in Thai politics could cause one to be arrested, jailed, kangaroo court, sentenced to years of imprisonment...or worse (found dead after committing suicide)...very dangerous business...

We are not talking about how ugly the guy is...how loud or foul mouthed he was...we are talking about political revenge for calling another politician out...that is part a partial of being a democracy...which they still were at the time of this incident...

This country continues it's military march down the sewer...

Actually we are speaking about things that he said a few years ago and was out on bail for. It is not political revenge but applying the rules of law.

If Jatuporn had spent a little time thinking and instead of shouting he had kept his peace he may still have been free.

It was his choice and I would assume that he still thinks that he can do or say what he likes without punishment.

I doubt that he will learn anything from it. If you compare Jatuporn and Nattawut together you can see that Nattawut is smarter by far as he got the rewards from Thaksin and Jatuporn got pushed aside.

@ billd766 - Saying Nattawut is smarter than Jatuporn is not really complimenting the guy, and in fact I would say the statement was a lovely bit of subtle sarcasm. Intentional or not I still liked it.

And saying he was rewarded by Thaksin really does say a lot about his character.

[Torty]

I have left Thailand

Edited January 29, 2015 by Torty

[mikemac]

I have left Thailand

Thailand is better for it !

[marinediscoking]

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I see all usual Yellows out and celebrating here again as usual even though you don't seem to know what he said. Seems the lot of you blindly idolize the junta like many north Koreans do. Any opposing voice must be jailed seems to be your mantra. I see the one-sided purge continues.

I'm not a "usual yellow" and I most certainly would not support the reds. But the current administration which you refer to as a junta, has done more good for this country in such a short time, than all the politicians have done in the past ten years or more. There are many cases outstanding of wrongs committed by the previous administration. We will be hearing about judgements on the activities of all the lesser ex-MPs as time goes by I'm sure.

Could you please be specific what good changes the junta has made?

Ok I admit they have created bike paths.

Motorcycle taxis are back to overcharging with the old rates, beach vendors are back, jet ski rip offs still happening. Koa Tao investigation with daily updates to PM completed. My retail business sustained huge losses due to curfew with the soldiers on motorbikes ordering it shut early for the first 2 weeks of the coup. Please tell me what they have accomplished more in the 7 months than last gov. in 10 years than a massive one sided political culling?

Expand your thinking, right now your thinking is confined to a very small sand box.

My sand box was expanded after all the promises of the last coup. I was not crazy about Thaksin but during those years the business environment was great here. There was no BS being pulled with getting my business licenses renewed or provincial. government hassles like what was happened since.

[slapout]

I must have been in a different sand box. I noticed the graft/corruption went up by a large factor and appeared more organized with more fingers getting into other peoples wallets.for vastly greater sums in the past decade and a half. This may have been due to several reasons but the ""big boys'' indicated those further up the food chain were demanding more and faster tunover fom more potential money sources. The RTP have really seemed to have come into their own since the Shin governments hit the scene. Then again so have many politicans who just happen to have a Pol. stuck in front.of their rank

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[scorecard]

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BKKBrit post # 126.

Abhisit should take the high-road, and win major points amongst former PT supporters if he was to withdraw the charges. This would show that he puts unity above self and would soften hearts with his detractors.

Like the example as set by Thaksin and the P.T.P. in general?

And what don't you understand when I said that Abhisit should take 'the high road'? What has a personal defamation case got to do with Thaksin? Jeesh..get over him already.

Very poor attempt to sideline the discussion. Attempt failed.

[scorecard]

I'm lost, did jatuporn get bail yesterday?

[Torty]

I was not crazy about Thaksin but during those years the business environment was great here. There was no BS being pulled with getting my business licenses renewed or provincial. government hassles like what was happened since.

Thaksin personally helped you in getting your business license renewed more easily?

[Torty]

I'm lost, did jatuporn get bail yesterday?

Yes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/28/jatuporn-prompan-sentenced_n_6561032.html

Jatuporn deferred his 730 days of incarceration for the paltry sum of £4050

[SheungWan]

Are the courts making a statement or are they making an example , we all remember motor mouth Jatuporn, , if the PTP ever become a political party again they must remember to tick all the boxes , brain dead idiots must not apply , however I think that former P.M. Abhist had more than this to contend with, 2 years for this or was it for a combination other outbursts as well.

Of course it's the later, he is being made an example of. This jaunta have no intention of reconsiliation, and this WILL lead to civil war. For this very reason I have left Thailand after 25 years of work and investment there. Why did Kasit the foul mouth ex-Foreign Minister just

recently get aquitted of the same offense, I quote

"But the court overruled the defamation charge reasoning that Thaksin was a former prime minister and a well known public figure whom everyone could criticise.

Although some wordings in the criticism was impolite, but the public address was made with honesty to protect the ~ and national interest."

A double standard that is at the essessence of why the majority poor will raise arms on Bangkok streets in the coming future if the upper middle class and elites don't gain an understanding of what they are feeling at heart.

Tear me apart as the messanger, but it's not me whos mind you have to persuade with your agruement, it's 45 million north and north-easterners you have to convince.

Reconciliation turned out to be never, ever anything other than dog-whistle code for the return of Thaksin. And Jatuporn proved himself to be nothing more than one of Thaksin's uber gofers. As for raising yet again that old embarrassing fake class war flag to wave in camouflage of the Shinawatra family financial interests, well we look forward to some more of that if ever Arisman is rounded up. Like Jatuporn he was just innocently taking the dog for a walk, right?

[rubl]

Abhisit should take the high-road, and win major points amongst former PT supporters if he was to withdraw the charges. This would show that he puts unity above self and would soften hearts with his detractors.

I forgive you for publicly calling me a murderer, doctoring a tape which made me say " kill me some", and a few other minor things.

Somehow I doubt that will change the attitude of the 'detractors'

[Docno]

.

Good. Now I guess we can expect to see those Dems and their supporters hauled up before a court for suggesting that Yingluck had an illicit sexual liaison at a hotel a couple of years back.

Well , looks like Jutaporn needs some pointers on how to insult people and get away with it. Had he just called Abhisit a stupid bitch everything would have been o.k. We know this to be the case since when Abhisit used the term against Yingluk , gentleman that he is , he got away with it , not withstanding he later denied the remark was intended for her , or women either in general or indeed anyone. So we can only conclude he was talking to himself about himself.

Ah, the secret to successful defamation: be vague enough to allow for plausible denial. :-)

[inzman]

Don't forget the lottery prices are even higher now than before the crackdown on lottery started. So much for all the crackdowns. I don't see anything better here.

[Torty]

Don't forget the lottery prices are even higher now than before the crackdown on lottery started. So much for all the crackdowns. I don't see anything better here.

a small sampling for those that don't see very well:

Thai protests: Grenades thrown at anti-government protesters

M79 grenade hits NACC office again

Thai PBS TV station hit by two M79 grenades

Edited February 1, 2015 by Torty