webfact Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 ONE-STOP SERVICENew law to help cut down on red tapeThe NationBANGKOK: -- In a move to cut down on red tape and offer "one-stop service", the National Legislative Assembly has passed a law that shortens the procedure for getting government approvals and licences. The law will be enforced in July, Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam said yesterday.Under the law, government agencies are required to set up clear procedures for granting approvals or licences requested by people, he said. "We hope this will get rid of unnecessary bureaucracy and every government unit will be able to tell people how long it will take for their requests to be approved or their licences to come through," Wissanu told reporters.There are as many as 800 laws requiring people to have government approvals or a licence for certain activities concerning their livelihood or business, but the related government agencies have no clear procedures or information on how long the process will take, he noted.The 18 Article law, which was announced in the Royal Gazette on January 22, requires all ministries, provincial authorities and agencies, including those at the local administrative level, to create handbooks providing clear information on the work timeline and procedure for granting approval and licences."The handbook must say clearly how long it will take for the approval and which unit and who in the unit is responsible for these matters," he said. Agencies or officials who fail to comply with the handbook will be punished, he said.Article 10 of the law says that people have the right to know when their request will be approved and officials are obliged to keep them regularly updated on the progress."If the approval is delayed, agencies or officials are required to inform the applicant of the progress every seven days," it says.The law also encourages government agencies to coordinate and cooperate to provide "one-stop services" to the people, he said."For instance, a mining licence would require an approval from the Industry Ministry as well as the Resource and Environment Ministry among others," he said.This law does not apply to licences or approvals for projects involving natural resources and environment.Pong-ard Treekitvatanakul, deputy secretary-general of the Public Sector Development Commission, said the commission was working with government agencies to have them improve their service before the law is implemented in the next 180 days.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/New-law-to-help-cut-down-on-red-tape-30253448.html-- The Nation 2015-02-05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunMoo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Haha! Now there is something, I would like to see first, before i believe it. If there is one thing, Thailand excels at its red tape! The amount of time I have wasted, because of crazy bureaucracy, corruption, and lack of proper education....oh my. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I hope the handbooks are in English. And every office at the umpur has one. They are always making up their own interpretation of the law, only to find out at another umpur it wasn't a law at all. This is a really positive step. It will also stop government workers delaying someone's licence just because they are having a bad day. And no more paying that under the table money to oil the wheels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepperMe Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Wow.... A Law? So if they do not deliver on time we can have them arrested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oneday Posted February 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2015 Let's see, here is a new list of approval times... 100 - one year or more for approval. 500 - you are slightly warm, 6 months or so 1000 - now you are cooking, 1 month and a day or two. 5000 and a bottle of whiskey - Can you take a seat? We will have it for you in 5 minutes! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A positive step. I wonder just how many other laws are outdated, superfluous & generally not fit for the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 how about cutting these 800 laws down to 250 laws...import license for this and that...why? sell alcohol license? Why etc etc etc reduce bureaucracy, having less people pushing paper also reduces the tax burden of the working people. Instead they should check that you pay the tax correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A positive step. I wonder just how many other laws are outdated, superfluous & generally not fit for the 21st century. Probably hundreds but this isn't just something that applies to Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thais have no clear process or roadmap because everything operates on the "payoff" principle. Cash under the table clears the red tape in Thailand. That's the way the system works. Thais sold out a long time ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 sorry this off topicmaybe u can move to right topic.if Thailand would give foreigners a 6 month multientry visa for a certain fee I would spend more time here. and in neighboring countries..........maybe thai Vietnam and other countries could coodinate it so people could freely go to country to country. when I buy a 2 entry visa I don't come to Thailand as much because idont want to use them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiolo Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 red tape....what is the alternative colour. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 OK. this is more red tape to govern the red tape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A friend of mine, who is familiar with this proposal, outlined the process: step 1: the idea will go to the 'committee for new ideas' step 2: then it will be delegated to a sub-committee for reform step 3: discussion for a few years after which it may go back to the original committee step 4: it then goes to the NLA step 5: they review for no longer then a parliamentary session (about 3 years) step 6: if they approve it they go ask the 'good general' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) I doubt it will ever cut the beloved Thainess-procedure of: "You want express lane? You pay extra!" Edited February 5, 2015 by Lupatria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I hope the handbooks are in English. And every office at the umpur has one. They are always making up their own interpretation of the law, only to find out at another umpur it wasn't a law at all. This is a really positive step. It will also stop government workers delaying someone's licence just because they are having a bad day. And no more paying that under the table money to oil the wheels. What they need to do first of all is make sure all the Ampur and other Government offices, ie Immigation etc, stop making up their own rules, and have the rules made out for them, then we will all know where we stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 sorry this off topicmaybe u can move to right topic.if Thailand would give foreigners a 6 month multientry visa for a certain fee I would spend more time here. and in neighboring countries..........maybe thai Vietnam and other countries could coodinate it so people could freely go to country to country. when I buy a 2 entry visa I don't come to Thailand as much because idont want to use them up just think for the work permit....Lets pay some annual fee and pay the income tax and cut away all the other stupid bureaucracy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I hope the handbooks are in English. And every office at the umpur has one. They are always making up their own interpretation of the law, only to find out at another umpur it wasn't a law at all. This is a really positive step. It will also stop government workers delaying someone's licence just because they are having a bad day. And no more paying that under the table money to oil the wheels. What they need to do first of all is make sure all the Ampur and other Government offices, ie Immigation etc, stop making up their own rules, and have the rules made out for them, then we will all know where we stand. That's what I just said. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A positive step. I wonder just how many other laws are outdated, superfluous & generally not fit for the 21st century. Probably hundreds but this isn't just something that applies to Thailand. It definitely applies to the UK. Your avatar looks very familiar, is it one of the immigration officers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longstaff Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A law to reduce bureaucracy.....an oxymoron if ever there was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toknarok Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A law to reduce bureaucracy.....an oxymoron if ever there was! No it isn't,we have the new committee formed to prove it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 "For instance, a mining licence would require an approval from the Industry Ministry as well as the Resource and Environment Ministry among others," he said.This law does not apply to licences or approvals for projects involving natural resources and environment. So, if they can't even explain what they are trying to do, how on earth will they ever do it. Pretty sure I've never seen a man-made products mine before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dah fahrang Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A positive step. I wonder just how many other laws are outdated, superfluous & generally not fit for the 21st century. 90 Day Reporting, for starters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tso310 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Now the generals are in charge I suppose it will be yellow tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 There is always a fast way to get what's needed....just increase the size of the wad in the brown envelope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketboy Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hahaha, well I have been waiting over 1 year for one particular licence, at present we are still operating on a temporary one. The problem is that everything has to be approved from Bangkok instead of each provence being able to make their own approvals. To set up company back home took 1 day, to set up the first company here took 3 months, the second one took 4 months by the time they have finished juggling paperwork, photos, making multiple copies etc etc. Let's hope they can pull it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I can see what this is about: if you dont pay a bribe, your application does not move forward. If there are set times for processing something then there is no need to pay the bribe to get things moving? This is about trying to stop corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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