Court acquits Sonthi of not guilty of insulting Thaksin

[PREM-R]

A casual reading indicates that this is a case that Sondhi et al have been facing for over 20 years, when will the final appeal be heard? When will he start his jail sentence for real?

When will he and his PAD friends be charged with invading the Bangkok airports, causing billions of baht worth of losses to the country, will he be forced to pay back the losses? Don't hold your breath.

By the way, this topic is not about Thaksin.

................."By the way, this topic is not about Thaksin."........................

Ahh, then why is his name mentioned in the headline ?

But I don't blame you for not wanting anyone to mention that noxious little weed, very hard for you to denigrate anyone who has the audacity to oppose the Shin regime while at the same time defending the actions of a known criminal.

but, but , but Sonhi ! ......................

"......."By the way, this topic is not about Thaksin."........................

Ahh, then why is his name mentioned in the headline ?"

I think you were aware that this "BTW what percentage of Thaksin's time served would 18 days be?" was what I was referring to..... you just quoted my post in isolation without indicating what I was replying to.

[cookee68]

Oh well, there you go then

[BusyB]

When I was in Thailand in 2006 on one of my longer sojourns there, I asked a very successful southern Thai businesswoman who was no friend of Thaksin (and remember, a lot of yellow shirt support comes from the south) what she thought of Sonthi, who was the figurehead of the then broader based movement against Thaksin. Her comment: “No good, same same Thaksin.”

Remember also the two used to be business buddies – a real dream team.

[Plowman]

Shocked and stunned at this, who would have thought the Thai courts would return such a verdict - paragons of virtue, honesty and impartiality that they are.

[djjamie]

Those yellow shirts must be made of 'Teflon':-

On 1 October 2013, Sondhi was declared guilty of lèse majesté for quoting remarks made by an opponent protesting the 2008 resumption of PAD protests. Sondhi was sentenced to two years imprisonment for defaming the monarchy, then released after posting 500,000 baht ($15,935) in bail.

On 28 February 2012, Sondhi was convicted by a Bangkok Criminal Court of violating the Securities and Exchange Act by falsifying documents to secure a multi-million dollar loan for his media empire, a case dating back to the 1990s. He was handed the maximum sentence possible.

The Security and Exchange Commission accused him of falsifying documents used as collateral for a loan amounting to almost 1.1bn baht ($36m, £22.7m) for his media business.[73]

Sondhi pleaded guilty but was freed on bail pending an appeal against the sentence

Let me save some TV forum members making a post, "...but, but Thaksin...." Yeah, that should do it.

Why stop there? Are you trying to reinforce a false fallacy that yellows get bail while reds go to jail

Remember that appeal you talked about, but refused to elaborate on….7th of August 2014 - The founder of Thailand's royalist "Yellow Shirt" street movement has been jailed after an appeal court refused him bail for a 20-year sentence for corporate fraud.

Talk about cherry picking information to suit an agenda or didn't wikipedia mention the rejected appeal?

So are you suggesting that Sondhi is in prison today? Think again.

Reported on 25/8/2014 "The Supreme Court on Monday granted bail for Manager Media Group founder Sondhi Limthongkul and two former MMG executives after serving just 18 days in jail". Yep, those yellow shirts are made from teflon.

I tried to google it, but cannot find it.

Can you send me the link mate? Don't doubt you, but am interested in this info.

If this guy is teflon then I can gaurentee eggs being cooked on Nattawat and Jatuporn's heads would slide straight off after.

Yellow, red, blue or green. They all get bail and avoid jail. That is why reform is needed.

Don't forget the link.

Edited February 21, 2015 by djjamie

[TheDiva]

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"Therefore the court said the defendant had the right to criticise and inform the people of attempt by certain groups of people or movement to topple the monarchy so that they could help to protect the institution."

Painful to read isn't it ?. Its not going un-noticed in the rest of the world though and things won't be going one way forever

I have to shatter your wet dream. The rest of the world couldn´t care any less about the shooting down of a pathetic libel lawsuit by some Thai business tycoon. They have other problems to worry about.

I meant a combination of biased politically motivated judicial decisions, Go and have a look at some news sites and you'll see how much the World "Doesn't give a shit" about what is happening in Thailand

The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

[TheDiva]

Those yellow shirts must be made of 'Teflon':-

On 1 October 2013, Sondhi was declared guilty of lèse majesté for quoting remarks made by an opponent protesting the 2008 resumption of PAD protests. Sondhi was sentenced to two years imprisonment for defaming the monarchy, then released after posting 500,000 baht ($15,935) in bail.

On 28 February 2012, Sondhi was convicted by a Bangkok Criminal Court of violating the Securities and Exchange Act by falsifying documents to secure a multi-million dollar loan for his media empire, a case dating back to the 1990s. He was handed the maximum sentence possible.

The Security and Exchange Commission accused him of falsifying documents used as collateral for a loan amounting to almost 1.1bn baht ($36m, £22.7m) for his media business.[73]

Sondhi pleaded guilty but was freed on bail pending an appeal against the sentence

Let me save some TV forum members making a post, "...but, but Thaksin...." Yeah, that should do it.

Why stop there? Are you trying to reinforce a false fallacy that yellows get bail while reds go to jail

Remember that appeal you talked about, but refused to elaborate on….7th of August 2014 - The founder of Thailand's royalist "Yellow Shirt" street movement has been jailed after an appeal court refused him bail for a 20-year sentence for corporate fraud.

Talk about cherry picking information to suit an agenda or didn't wikipedia mention the rejected appeal?

So are you suggesting that Sondhi is in prison today? Think again.

Reported on 25/8/2014 "The Supreme Court on Monday granted bail for Manager Media Group founder Sondhi Limthongkul and two former MMG executives after serving just 18 days in jail". Yep, those yellow shirts are made from teflon.

I tried to google it, but cannot find it.

Can you send me the link mate? Don't doubt you, but am interested in this info.

If this guy is teflon then I can gaurentee eggs being cooked on Nattawat and Jatuporn's heads would slide straight off after.

Yellow, red, blue or green. They all get bail and avoid jail. That is why reform is needed.

Don't forget the link.

You "tried to google it"

I'll give you a clue, google this phrase "The Supreme Court on Monday granted bail for Manager Media Group founder Sondhi Limthongkul and two former MMG executives after serving just 18 days in jail" and see what you come up with.

I'll tell you - the first 8 replies (the first page) all come up with that phrase and story behind it, Sondhi bailed after 18 days. How hard can it be...................?

[siampolee]

The Diva post # 36

The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

fab4 Oh sorry The Diva.

What is your agenda then for posting here in a nation the world doesn't care about?

On a promise of some sort are you, are you are still here in Thailand or were you ever here in the first place?

Strange as it may seem to you but the majority of people here in Thailand do not have any problems with the current administration,it's only the corrupt and their supporters seem upset about matters.

Come and visit our amphur in Surin and hear what the local population have to say,they have no problems like you have and they have vote in the country too unlike you.

These are the farmers who suffered under the great rice pledging scam scheme. Maybe they are a darn sight more intelligent than you and the reporters in the U.K .as well as the editorial staff at The Guardian.

The locals don't cherry pick facts they have seen and experienced them first hand and felt the harvest that the last administration let them reap.

Did you have to go begging to the bank, suppliers family and friends to live? Somehow I doubt it yet you seem so keen to see those times return

.Now why might that be I ask?

Edited February 21, 2015 by siampolee

[djjamie]

You "tried to google it"

I'll give you a clue, google this phrase "The Supreme Court on Monday granted bail for Manager Media Group founder Sondhi Limthongkul and two former MMG executives after serving just 18 days in jail" and see what you come up with.

I'll tell you - the first 8 replies (the first page) all come up with that phrase and story behind it, Sondhi bailed after 18 days. How hard can it be...................?

Got it thanks.

I put the date in as well and shortened the sentence. Thats what buggered me. I put 25/8/2014 "The Supreme Court on Monday granted bail for Manager Media Group founder Sondhi Limthongkul

Thanks again. I appreciate it.

[TheDiva]

The Diva post # 36

The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

fab4 Oh sorry The Diva.

What is your agenda then for posting here in a nation the world doesn't care about?

On a promise of some sort are you, are you are still here in Thailand or were you ever here in the first place?

Strange as it may seem to you but the majority of people here in Thailand do not have any problems with the current administration,it's only the corrupt and their supporters seem upset about matters.

Come and visit our amphur in Surin and hear what the local population have to say,they have no problems like you have and they have vote in the country too unlike you.

These are the farmers who suffered under the great rice pledging scam scheme. Maybe they are a darn sight more intelligent than you and the reporters in the U.K .as well as the editorial staff at The Guardian.

The locals don't cherry pick facts they have seen and experienced them first hand and felt the harvest that the last administration let them reap.

Did you have to go begging to the bank, suppliers family and friends to live? Somehow I doubt it yet you seem so keen to see those times return

.Now why might that be I ask?

Read, comprehend, understand the context, do not extemporise, then post. Saves embarrassment.

[Robby nz]

That would be the same court that rejected Abhisits suit against Jutaporn : http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Court-rejects-Abhisits-suit-against-Jatuporn-30196946.html

The Nation December 28, 2012 1:00 am

The Criminal Court yesterday dismissed a libel case lodged by former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva against red-shirt leader and former MP Jatuporn Promphan, ruling that the verbal attack between the two was just politics and had no legal grounds for defamation.
Jatuporn was sued for a speech he made during a rally on May 10, 2009, accusing the then-premier of ordering soldiers to use lethal force in a crackdown against protesters that April, around the time Abhisit's car was attacked by red shirts.

And the same court that refused the DSI request to revoke bail for Jutaporn : http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=4ff6714c0b01dabf3c006b3b#.VOh-5PmUeUI

BANGKOK, June 23 (TNA) – Thailand's Criminal Court on Wednesday dismissed a request by the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) to revoke bail for the Red Shirt (United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship) leader and Puea Thai Party member of parliament Jatuporn Prompan who is charged with terrorism.

I suppose that makes the courts bias in favor of the reds or are posters here preaching double standards.....Again

[ExPratt]

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"Therefore the court said the defendant had the right to criticise and inform the people of attempt by certain groups of people or movement to topple the monarchy so that they could help to protect the institution."

Painful to read isn't it ?. Its not going un-noticed in the rest of the world though and things won't be going one way forever

I have to shatter your wet dream. The rest of the world couldn´t care any less about the shooting down of a pathetic libel lawsuit by some Thai business tycoon. They have other problems to worry about.

I meant a combination of biased politically motivated judicial decisions, Go and have a look at some news sites and you'll see how much the World "Doesn't give a shit" about what is happening in Thailand

The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

That is one of the 3 or 4 articles on that particular day that I was eluding to . I checked before Posting it and it would have been a little too candid for the TV site, they have to protect themselves i suppose

Edited February 21, 2015 by ExPratt

[rubl]

So, a court acquits Sonthi in a defamation case.

That's nice, but seemingly uninteresting seeing the various discussions on other topics here. Only comment missing I think, is remarks on the need to modernise defamation laws as first item on the action list.

[mikemac]

A lot of these "handpicked" articles are so anti-junta you could believe they were penned by Thaksin himself. (and many of them are full of material that is banned from being published on the forum)

As I once said to the famous link poster Fab4, anyone who cares to search the internet for long enough will find something that suits their agenda.

It does not necessarily mean it is true, or fact, as a lot of it is just someone's opinion, not an entire government's or country's opinion.

Why don't you guys Google the reasons the latest couple of coups happened ? Because you may not like what you find.

I'll give you a heads up, the common denominator is Thaksin Shinawatra.

And "The Guardian" is not the rest of the world, neither is the Washington Post.

[TheDiva]

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The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

That is one of the 3 or 4 articles on that particular day that I was eluding to . I checked before Posting it and it would have been a little too candid for the TV site, they have to protect themselves i suppose

I suspected that it was. Just wait for the accusations that Thaksin paid to have those articles written

[spidermike007]

Of course. What else was expected? If you have enough cash here, you can buy your way out of nearly any crime. It is much the same in the US, where if you have 2 million dollars to spend on a legal team, you can buy your way out of a murder charge, as OJ proved. But, here it is even more so. How many top guys are going to jail?

[Ricardo]

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The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

That is one of the 3 or 4 articles on that particular day that I was eluding to . I checked before Posting it and it would have been a little too candid for the TV site, they have to protect themselves i suppose

I suspected that it was. Just wait for the accusations that Thaksin paid to have those articles written

One might wonder just what RA, or any other PR-experts do for their money from (formerly) Thaksin or (more recently) UDD, if they cannot place or slant media-coverage in their employers' desired direction ?

Perhaps they do it all, and fund their operations & overheads, out of a desire to support the public good ... noble chaps, eh ?

[rubl]

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The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

That is one of the 3 or 4 articles on that particular day that I was eluding to . I checked before Posting it and it would have been a little too candid for the TV site, they have to protect themselves i suppose

I suspected that it was. Just wait for the accusations that Thaksin paid to have those articles written

I doubt it. Mind you Forbes has

"Doug Bandow Contributor

I write about domestic and international policy.

Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own."

For those with small screens the small print reads "Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own."

PS read more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Bandow

or

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/doug-bandow/us-should-talk-to-north-korea-whoever-is-in-charge_b_6240502.html

Edited February 22, 2015 by rubl

[siampolee]

The diva post # 45.

I suspected that it was. Just wait for the accusations that Thaksin paid to have those articles written

Many a true word spoken in jest my good man.

Might the matters commentated upon in the quote reflect your situation ?

[mikemac]

The Diva post # 36

The Guardian Editorial of the 19th February subtitled "The Generals have failed" is a particularly damning indictment of a Nation the rest of the world "apparently" doesn't care a ***** about.

fab4 Oh sorry The Diva.

What is your agenda then for posting here in a nation the world doesn't care about?

On a promise of some sort are you, are you are still here in Thailand or were you ever here in the first place?

Strange as it may seem to you but the majority of people here in Thailand do not have any problems with the current administration,it's only the corrupt and their supporters seem upset about matters.

Come and visit our amphur in Surin and hear what the local population have to say,they have no problems like you have and they have vote in the country too unlike you.

These are the farmers who suffered under the great rice pledging scam scheme. Maybe they are a darn sight more intelligent than you and the reporters in the U.K .as well as the editorial staff at The Guardian.

The locals don't cherry pick facts they have seen and experienced them first hand and felt the harvest that the last administration let them reap.

Did you have to go begging to the bank, suppliers family and friends to live? Somehow I doubt it yet you seem so keen to see those times return

.Now why might that be I ask?

Went to visit family outside Surin just before Christmas, typical rice farming village, and the only complaints I heard regarding any government was directed at the PTP. The farmers are blaming them for the low prices for their last crop.

Apart from that day to day life is exactly the same as it has been in the five years I have been visiting that village. The only thing that has changed is the attitude towards the Shins. Times have changed and the people have changed with them.

As far as Sonthi being acquitted of the libel charge, so he should have been.

Anyone and everyone should be able to write and say anything they like about that low-life criminal Thaksin. Considering the damage he has caused the country it is fitting, and probably the only punishment he will ever receive.

[Robby nz]

Them courts are certainly bias aren't they, heck they have even refused to revoke bail against Jatuporn and Natthawut :

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/court-dismisses-call-red-shirt-leaders-bail-revocation

April 18, 2014 5:24 pm

Red-shirt co-leaders Jatuporn Promphan and Natthawut Saikua are still free on bail after the Criminal Court today (Friday) dismissed a petition for the court to revoke their bail.

But they are only on bail on terrorism charges and that's not nearly as serious as someone insulting Thaksin.