Suthep reports to NACC for 2010 crackdown charges

[jaidam]

Mandela of the East! Ohh how my sides doth hurt!

Do all you yellow lads actually believe he is some kind of pariah or do you just completely ignore is corruption filled past? A recent example of him holding shares in a media company that received government concessions which is illegal. He quit as an MP before he went to court for it though

Maybe you lot just stick your fingers in your ears and sing "lalalalalalala"

I'll see your "holding shares in a media company that received government concessions" , and I'll raise you a "got his good buddy CY to gift him a telecommunications monopoly that would make a man that's tech savvy went as far as allowing him to screw in a light bulb become one of the world's richest telecommunications billionaires ".

hint - Dangerous game it is, to play Top Trumps when your hero is a Shinawatra. You will lose every time.

[lildragon]

Mandela of the East! Ohh how my sides doth hurt!

Do all you yellow lads actually believe he is some kind of pariah or do you just completely ignore is corruption filled past? A recent example of him holding shares in a media company that received government concessions which is illegal. He quit as an MP before he went to court for it though

Maybe you lot just stick your fingers in your ears and sing "lalalalalalala"

I'll see your "holding shares in a media company that received government concessions" , and I'll raise you a "got his good buddy CY to gift him a telecommunications monopoly that would make a man that's tech savvy went as far as allowing him to screw in a light bulb become one of the world's richest telecommunications billionaires ".

hint - Dangerous game it is, to play Top Trumps when your hero is a Shinawatra. You will lose every time.

Thaksin isn't my hero though. I know everything about him and what he is and that he's scum. Difference is I am not trying to hold up Suthep as some sort of beacon of justice! And that was just one example, his dodgy dealings in phuket brought down Leekpai's government. But again you can condone corruption as long as it's your boys doing it right?

[tbthailand]

Suthep said he told officials that Thailand was nearing a state of war prior to the 2010 crackdown,

2010, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the protesters.

2014, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the government.

At least they are color-consistent.

Just as consistent as the RTP:

2010 - fail to do their duty.

2014 - fail to do their duty.

Or Thaksin:

2010 - kept well away despite all the bravado

2014 - kept well away despite all the bravado.

Plenty rotten in the state of Denmark ad Willi would say,

you realize that this is not about Thaksin, right?

[Skywalker69]

Of course the greatest enemy of the red shirts are Monks.

At least he showed. Robes and all with out sending a single lawyer to represent him while he hid in the temple. Jaturporn and Nattawut could learn a thing for the "Mandela of the East" when it comes to respect for the law and turning up when you are required to.

The reds in the security of numbers have been known to beat defenseless monks senseless so thank goodness for martial law.

[djjamie]

Suthep said he told officials that Thailand was nearing a state of war prior to the 2010 crackdown,

2010, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the protesters.

2014, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the government.

At least they are color-consistent.

Exactly. Very good point too and I thank you for highlighting this.

2010 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 1 month before the lethargic DEM's decided to crack down on it.

2014 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 7 months and no sign of the lethargic PTP cracking down on it.

I bet if the DEM's let the violence run for 7 months in 2010 without arresting a single person. I reiterate, not a single person arrested. Got that. Not one arrest. I bet the military would have stepped in and removed that government.

How long should the majority of peace loving Thai's witness deaths of 4 people a month whose biggest crime was blowing a whistle or just shopping with their kids at Big C and injuries of 100 people a month before the military step in? Not to mention the economy was crumbling and tourism was plummeting. How long do you reckon? A guess? 10 months? 3 years?

Edited March 28, 2015 by djjamie

[djjamie]

Of course the greatest enemy of the red shirts are Monks.

At least he showed. Robes and all with out sending a single lawyer to represent him while he hid in the temple. Jaturporn and Nattawut could learn a thing for the "Mandela of the East" when it comes to respect for the law and turning up when you are required to.

The reds in the security of numbers have been known to beat defenseless monks senseless so thank goodness for martial law.

I am just thankful that these people do not represent the majority of peaceful red shirts up country. These are the 7% that I always refer to.

The remainder have the "Mandela of the East" to thank for finally getting paid.

[tbthailand]

Suthep said he told officials that Thailand was nearing a state of war prior to the 2010 crackdown,

2010, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the protesters.

2014, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the government.

At least they are color-consistent.

Exactly. Very good point too and I thank you for highlighting this.

2010 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 1 month before the lethargic DEM's decided to crack down on it.

2014 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 7 months and no sign of the lethargic PTP cracking down on it.

I bet if the DEM's let the violence run for 7 months in 2010 without arresting a single person. I reiterate, not a single person arrested. Got that. Not one arrest. I bet the military would have stepped in and removed that government.

How long should the majority of peace loving Thai's witness deaths of 4 people a month and injuries of 100 people a month before the military step in? Not to mention the economy was crumbling and tourism was plummeting. How long do you reckon? A guess? 10 months? 3 years?

you really only see one side of the story.

But your statements are blatantly false, as well.

which is normal for the junta apologists here.

[rubl]

Suthep said ... with "perpetrators using war weapons to kill people, police, and soldiers in the middle of the city."

so that was 2010 and...

this was 2014:

A Human Rights Watch researcher told VOA that militants had M79 grenade launchers and were firing at police.

http://www.voanews.com/content/thai-court-upholds-emergency-decree-warns-against-violence/1854474.html

This guy is a knucklehead.

The normal obfuscation and apples and oranges.

So, 2014 explains 2010? A single grenade thrown at police in 2014 with more than 100 grenades lobbed on anti-government protesters and most cowardly in the night (Bangkok Post kept a count it seems). Absolutely comparable with 2010 with grenades only lobbed on non-protesters like police, military, a reporter and normal people. The similarity seems in anti-government protests, but there it stops.

Anyway, both Abhisit and Suthep deposited their explanations. The fun can continue.

the deliberate 'obfuscation' began with your troll post.

You consistently and deliberately misrepresent the conflict over the last 10 years, and you apparently have no idea what happened before that time although you claim to have lived here for a couple of decades if my memory serves me.

I have not time for dutch fascists, not even polite ones.

There is no need to start on the 'troll' bit and the insults when you run out of arguments.

PS I don't claim, I HAVE and AM living and working in Bangkok since 1994. Excuses, but I see no reason to post a picture of the page in my passport with the relevant stamps.

Edited March 28, 2015 by rubl

[Skywalker69]

Of course the greatest enemy of the red shirts are Monks.

At least he showed. Robes and all with out sending a single lawyer to represent him while he hid in the temple. Jaturporn and Nattawut could learn a thing for the "Mandela of the East" when it comes to respect for the law and turning up when you are required to.

The reds in the security of numbers have been known to beat defenseless monks senseless so thank goodness for martial law.

I am just thankful that these people do not represent the majority of peaceful red shirts up country. These are the 7% that I always refer to.

The remainder have the "Mandela of the East" to thank for finally getting paid.

Me too. It seems Red shirts and their supporters walk hand in hand with violence.

[Skywalker69]

Suthep said he told officials that Thailand was nearing a state of war prior to the 2010 crackdown,

2010, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the protesters.

2014, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the government.

At least they are color-consistent.

Exactly. Very good point too and I thank you for highlighting this.

2010 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 1 month before the lethargic DEM's decided to crack down on it.

2014 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 7 months and no sign of the lethargic PTP cracking down on it.

I bet if the DEM's let the violence run for 7 months in 2010 without arresting a single person. I reiterate, not a single person arrested. Got that. Not one arrest. I bet the military would have stepped in and removed that government.

How long should the majority of peace loving Thai's witness deaths of 4 people a month and injuries of 100 people a month before the military step in? Not to mention the economy was crumbling and tourism was plummeting. How long do you reckon? A guess? 10 months? 3 years?

you really only see one side of the story.

But your statements are blatantly false, as well.

which is normal for the junta apologists here.

you really only see one side of the story

pot....kettle....black.

[rubl]

Suthep said he told officials that Thailand was nearing a state of war prior to the 2010 crackdown,

2010, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the protesters.

2014, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the government.

At least they are color-consistent.

Just as consistent as the RTP:

2010 - fail to do their duty.

2014 - fail to do their duty.

Or Thaksin:

2010 - kept well away despite all the bravado

2014 - kept well away despite all the bravado.

Plenty rotten in the state of Denmark ad Willi would say,

you realize that this is not about Thaksin, right?

Absolutely, this is about Suthep explaining why he and Abhisit used the army to crackdown on Thaksin financed terrorists.

[djjamie]

Suthep said he told officials that Thailand was nearing a state of war prior to the 2010 crackdown,

2010, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the protesters.

2014, country on the "brink of war", the military cracks down on the government.

At least they are color-consistent.

Exactly. Very good point too and I thank you for highlighting this.

2010 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 1 month before the lethargic DEM's decided to crack down on it.

2014 - UDD violence committed with impunity for 7 months and no sign of the lethargic PTP cracking down on it.

I bet if the DEM's let the violence run for 7 months in 2010 without arresting a single person. I reiterate, not a single person arrested. Got that. Not one arrest. I bet the military would have stepped in and removed that government.

How long should the majority of peace loving Thai's witness deaths of 4 people a month and injuries of 100 people a month before the military step in? Not to mention the economy was crumbling and tourism was plummeting. How long do you reckon? A guess? 10 months? 3 years?

you really only see one side of the story.

But your statements are blatantly false, as well.

which is normal for the junta apologists here.

Yet your inability to rebut it speaks volumes.