webfact Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 PM backs the production of electric carsBANGKOK, 27 Mar 2015 (NNT) - Energy Minister Narongchai Akrasanee revealed that he has assigned related agencies to study possible approaches to promote the production of electric cars in Thailand within the next 3-5 years.Mr. Narongchai said his ministry would look into the establishment of charging stations and battery replacement service, or specifically speaking, the strategic location of these stations. He stated that initially PTT Public Co. Ltd has expressed interest in providing the service. However, the process is possible only after laws are amended to allow oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service.According to the minister, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha showed support for the production of the electric vehicles, following the global trend. The Prime Minister said Thailand must look into the future and provide necessary means that would enable electric cars to run in both city and in the remote areas.General Prayut sets to lay down the required infrastructure within the next 3-5 years. He said the government would help pave ways for gas stations to offer the charging service by amending related laws.-- NNT 2015-03-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... Edited March 27, 2015 by Morakot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meatboy Posted March 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2015 with thailands record on electrical deaths NO THANKS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... Authoritarian central planners rarely understand anything other than their own power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted March 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... No, you miss the point - these guys, who ran a military that has been regarded for the last 70 years as largely incompetent with expertise only in warfare against their own countrymen, have all of a sudden become experts in pretty much everything. There's a reason most weeks now see a story in the foreign media about the growing absurdity of the current Thai governance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 This is more of wishful thinking and the correct step towards the future. At the moment they should concentrate more on improving their railways and roads in Thailand. I do believe in some years we are going to see electric cars in Thailand but not for the next 3-5 years as they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... Authoritarian central planners rarely understand anything other than their own power. Well as military guy he should have some basic technical understanding. Electric cars with big batteries won't have a big future...you can't pack enough energy into batteries and the high energy density batteries are getting very dangerous on accidents. Burning Alcohol or H2 is more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... Authoritarian central planners rarely understand anything other than their own power. Hmm, military like civilian governments are advised by experts... Yes, it would be good that petrol station could offer fast charging services, but to develop a sound infrastructure for electric vehicles completely different priorities seem necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuiburi Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Even more roadkills with these soundless cars . They should build in a soundsystem so people hear that there is a car approaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Batteries.....<deleted> clueless. If your talking electric go the hydrogen fuel cell route. Generate the hydrogen using renewables and you have a very green solution and refuelling on a par with petrol and not waiting around for hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 But didnt he also want village elders running the country...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Batteries.....<deleted> clueless. If your talking electric go the hydrogen fuel cell route. Generate the hydrogen using renewables and you have a very green solution and refuelling on a par with petrol and not waiting around for hours. H2 generation could be done easily with excess energy, basically the dream for unreliable energy sources like wind and solar cells. If there is not enough electric in the grid, you switch the hydrogen factory off. Alternative you could make cars with relative small batteries (say for 50 km) and a small engine (gasoline, diesel, alcohol) with generator. For most ways the battery is good enough, if you go far the small engine starts. A 2 stroke direct injection engine running only at 1 specific setting runs extreme efficient and is light weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hybrid technology is working and most producers are currently making or planning hybrid models - and they require no new infrastructure. Prius taxis achieving 20+ km/l in city driving with no reliability problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 "General Prayut sets to lay down the required infrastructure within the next 3-5 years. " Ah, the plan unfolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Global trend is learning your folks how to drive a car safely, mr general. Forget about the rest for a while. Thailand is not going to die without the electric car. Your face still will be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Another project to go in the box of really really really good ideas? I wonder who changed direction on the buses to go electric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Another project to go in the box of really really really good ideas? I wonder who changed direction on the buses to go electric. electric (battery) on buses doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Even more roadkills with these soundless cars . They should build in a soundsystem so people hear that there is a car approaching. Christ, there's always one isn't there. So light rail/trams would, in your view be 'death by stealth'? Okay, let's make all automobiles as LOUD as fck just so you know they're coming. Christ on a bike ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil2407 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Prayut 3 to 5 years? Guess he's staying then to make sure it happens - just really hope they actually remember to put the noise in ( like normal cars ) - Thailand dangerous enough on the roads - now silent cars - nooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 What's next - genetically flying elephants to replace trucks? FOCUS Mr. Prayut. Deal with the current energy problems in Thailand before you start planning to put Thai astronauts into lunar orbit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokay Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Maybe they should learn how to Earth / Ground a home first. Then move onto cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckape Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Wow the General sure is busy. I am starting to think this is a Truman Show-esque performance solely for the entertainment of Expat web boards. It's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Kubasa Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Japan has 40,000 recharging stations and Thailand, at last count and if all are working, has 4 recharging stations so if you run out of "juice" on the way home the wait could be 1 0r more YEARS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlicha Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Can't wait to see all those Teslas going from 0-100 in 6.2 seconds down Sukhumvit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... If the government decreed parking garages have a certain percentage of parking spots reserved exclusively for electrics and had charging posts, people would stay at the malls longer while waiting for their charge. Install parking meters that pay for and provide charging everywhere practical. The traffic is so stop-and-go in Bangkok that taxis would hardly need a charge during a shift as they use almost no electrics while stopped and can also benefit from regenerative braking. Replaceable battery packs would mean virtually no down-time for them, also, as the battery packs could be charging while the taxis are out; they could even rush a fresh battery pack, via motorcycle, if a taxi got dangerously low. A few government incentives and decrees to facilitate adoption of electric cars would go a long way towards improving air quality and noise abatement. Thailand is well-suited to get the vast majority of its electricity from solar sources. The Germans have only a fraction of the sunlight that Thailand has and yet they now produce up to 50% of their electricity from solar power. http://theweek.com/speedreads/451299/germany-gets-50-percent-electricity-from-solar-first-time Yingli & Huawei To Jointly Expand Solar Power In Thailand http://cleantechnica.com/2014/12/23/yingli-huawei-jointly-expand-solar-power-thailand/ I've been looking at electric motorcycles for a few years and they are finally getting affordable/practical in the US. If I could import one into the Kingdom without having to pay a large duty, I probably would. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfmanjack Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... If the government decreed parking garages have a certain percentage of parking spots reserved exclusively for electrics and had charging posts, people would stay at the malls longer while waiting for their charge. Install parking meters that pay for and provide charging everywhere practical. The traffic is so stop-and-go in Bangkok that taxis would hardly need a charge during a shift as they use almost no electrics while stopped and can also benefit from regenerative braking. Replaceable battery packs would mean virtually no down-time for them, also, as the battery packs could be charging while the taxis are out; they could even rush a fresh battery pack, via motorcycle, if a taxi got dangerously low. A few government incentives and decrees to facilitate adoption of electric cars would go a long way towards improving air quality and noise abatement. Thailand is well-suited to get the vast majority of its electricity from solar sources. The Germans have only a fraction of the sunlight that Thailand has and yet they now produce up to 50% of their electricity from solar power. http://theweek.com/speedreads/451299/germany-gets-50-percent-electricity-from-solar-first-time Yingli & Huawei To Jointly Expand Solar Power In Thailand http://cleantechnica.com/2014/12/23/yingli-huawei-jointly-expand-solar-power-thailand/ I've been looking at electric motorcycles for a few years and they are finally getting affordable/practical in the US. If I could import one into the Kingdom without having to pay a large duty, I probably would. I saw electric motorcycles for sale here a couple of years ago but they were pretty expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... Authoritarian central planners rarely understand anything other than their own power. Well as military guy he should have some basic technical understanding. Electric cars with big batteries won't have a big future...you can't pack enough energy into batteries and the high energy density batteries are getting very dangerous on accidents. Burning Alcohol or H2 is more reasonable. What's so reasonable about burning alcohol or hydrogen when we are apparently awash in hydrocarbon fuels and will be for some time in the future? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRYANG Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 oil service stations to legally offer battery charging service. Not entirely sure if they really understand how electric vehicles are primarily changed. Mostly not while parked for an hour at a petrol station... Authoritarian central planners rarely understand anything other than their own power. Well as military guy he should have some basic technical understanding. Electric cars with big batteries won't have a big future...you can't pack enough energy into batteries and the high energy density batteries are getting very dangerous on accidents. Burning Alcohol or H2 is more reasonable. A prime reason to go electric is to entirely minimize our carbon footprint and minimize the use of fossil fuels.But yes, we are a bunch of lazy ass egomaniacs that choose what's best for me rather than any concern to the next generation on this planet. Or, do we want a change? Are we prepared to compromise a bit in favour of a more environmentally friendly lifestyle? Only WE are in the power of this change. No government, no manufacturer can do this alone. WE must understand that we all need a common goal to make this change of eco friendly transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 If the government decreed parking garages have a certain percentage of parking spots reserved exclusively for electrics and had charging posts, people would stay at the malls longer while waiting for their charge. Install parking meters that pay for and provide charging everywhere practical. The traffic is so stop-and-go in Bangkok that taxis would hardly need a charge during a shift as they use almost no electrics while stopped and can also benefit from regenerative braking. Replaceable battery packs would mean virtually no down-time for them, also, as the battery packs could be charging while the taxis are out; they could even rush a fresh battery pack, via motorcycle, if a taxi got dangerously low. A few government incentives and decrees to facilitate adoption of electric cars would go a long way towards improving air quality and noise abatement. Thailand is well-suited to get the vast majority of its electricity from solar sources. The Germans have only a fraction of the sunlight that Thailand has and yet they now produce up to 50% of their electricity from solar power. http://theweek.com/speedreads/451299/germany-gets-50-percent-electricity-from-solar-first-time Yingli & Huawei To Jointly Expand Solar Power In Thailand http://cleantechnica.com/2014/12/23/yingli-huawei-jointly-expand-solar-power-thailand/ I've been looking at electric motorcycles for a few years and they are finally getting affordable/practical in the US. If I could import one into the Kingdom without having to pay a large duty, I probably would. The claim that Germany produces "up to" 50% of their energy from solar is misleading. That that happened for one hour on a public holiday when demand was exceptionally low is much closer to the truth. Yes it and wind power is reducing hydrocarbon consumption, but with a lot of associated problems and almost zero reduction in the hydrocarbon generating capacity needed to cover peak load periods when solar is unavailable. AFAIK no solar plant has achieved 20% daily output of rated capacity, even in a desert. So a 1kW panel will produce less than 5kWh of energy. Very few homes have demand for 5kWh of energy in the middle of the day so unless the energy is stored in expensive batteries (with limited life) it needs to be sold into the grid, and the buy-back price has to be far above its worth to make solar panels economically viable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Well as military guy he should have some basic technical understanding. Electric cars with big batteries won't have a big future...you can't pack enough energy into batteries and the high energy density batteries are getting very dangerous on accidents. Burning Alcohol or H2 is more reasonable. Having worked with 500,000V electricity (20 years) and H2 for 28 years, I would rate it as far more dangerous. DO NOT equate it with LPG or any other fuel gas. Putting it in the hands of the public would lead to a disaster sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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