On 11/30/2024 at 7:37 AM, ricklev said:

As you are in chiang Mai, just go to any branch of Nana Bakery.  Problem solved!!!

I can also recommend Nana Bakery. They are great. Nana Bakery is French. If you're looking for German style bread you can buy bread from Jo's Bakery at Rimping.

 

I bought a Farm house bread once many years ago because I needed some to make croutons. Used 2 slices and left the rest in its original plastic wrapping on the kitchen counter. When after 3 weeks it still looked like new I realised what a mistake I had made. 

 

An almost impossible advice to follow is what a wise man said: Never eat anything that comes out of a factory. 

Healthy bread is sourdough bread.

But, I don't know how to make it in my bread machine.

 

Also, other than Swann Flour, I don't know about.

Swann is good quality and cheap in price.

 

I think I could get good quality higher fiber flour from China.

Bakeries in North-Eastern China, like in Harbin or Dalian make GREAT bread.

 

 I wish I could buy Chinese flour here.

Probably cheap and good.

 

12 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Healthy bread is sourdough bread.

But, I don't know how to make it in my bread machine.

 

Also, other than Swann Flour, I don't know about.

Swann is good quality and cheap in price.

 

I think I could get good quality higher fiber flour from China.

Bakeries in North-Eastern China, like in Harbin or Dalian make GREAT bread.

 

 I wish I could buy Chinese flour here.

Probably cheap and good.

 

I make sourdough bread with white swan flour, but not in a machine. To make it in a machine, I think you would just have to increase the rise times by about a factor of 5, and of course, make a starter, which can take a week or two.

 

I also add wholemeal flour at about 20% that I get from Bakersmart in Chiang Mai. Actually, I use that to feed the starter.

Edited December 3, 20241 yr by Marcous

8 minutes ago, Marcous said:

I make sourdough bread with white swan flour, but not in a machine. To make it in a machine, I think you would just have to increase the rise times by about a factor of 5, and of course, make a starter, which can take a week or two.

 

I also add wheat bran at about 20% that I get from Bakersmart in Chiang Mai. Actually, I use that to feed the starter.

 

That looks very good.

But, you know that I am very lazy.

Also, I am not sure about the best way to make a starter.

I have heard that some starters have gene lines which are over 80 years old.

 

Also, I would worry about safety if I were making a starter culture myself, of course.

This is why I have not experimented with the new technology, thus far:

 

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/starter-culture#:~:text=Starter cultures are cultures with,high and constant product quality.

 

Still, I do so much love sourdough bread.

And, I never buy bread, even if sourdough bread were available in the local village market.

 

 

 

 

^ Making a starter is very easy, you'd have to quite abuse it to make it go bad, I mean it never happened to me.

 

As to being lazy, so am I, but the work time involved is less than 5 minutes to make a soughdough. 

Even many breads that advertise themselves as being whole grain are not whole brain. It has to specifically say 100% whole wheat flour or whole grain flour and if it says enriched wheat flour that is white bread. There are only specialty bakeries that offer truly whole grain bread here and I don't know if any of the big box stores that do so. You can get a whole grain bread but it's likely at least 50 to 60% white flour.

I know in the Hua Hin area there are a few bakeries that produce breads with 90% rye grain and 100% whole wheat, but not many. And you have to do your research and sometimes you have to talk to the baker to confirm the percentage of whole grain flour that they use.

Another option for whole grains is to supplement one's diet with rice cakes. This particular brand has a few different rice cakes and the one shown is organic brown rice, red rice, lentil, mung bean and jobs tears, and those are the only ingredients making it very pure. And it tastes fantastic. They are available online on platform such as Lazada.

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Even many breads that advertise themselves as being whole grain are not whole brain. It has to specifically say 100% whole wheat flour or whole grain flour and if it says enriched wheat flour that is white bread. There are only specialty bakeries that offer truly whole grain bread here and I don't know if any of the big box stores that do so. You can get a whole grain bread but it's likely at least 50 to 60% white flour.

I know in the Hua Hin area there are a few bakeries that produce breads with 90% rye grain and 100% whole wheat, but not many. And you have to do your research and sometimes you have to talk to the baker to confirm the percentage of whole grain flour that they use.

Another option for whole grains is to supplement one's diet with rice cakes. This particular brand has a few different rice cakes and the one shown is organic brown rice, red rice, lentil, mung bean and jobs tears, and those are the only ingredients making it very pure. And it tastes fantastic. They are available online on platform such as Lazada.

I made a loaf the other day, 60/40%, bread/whole wheat flour, and really don't care for the texture. Healthwise would be minimal over my normal 75/25% ratios. Sugar content still the same 10gr of ~880gr, so a bit irrelevant.

I've used different ratios making Rye bread also, but don't care for the rye flour sold here, as just OK, and silly priced. Nothing like the rye flour we used at the bakeries I worked at.

Never bothered making sourdough, as don't eat enough bread to keep the starter going & using.

Cubic breads are great.

Tasty.

Healthy.

For a while I didn't buy Cubic cuz I thought Farmhouse is less expensive.

Then I decided the difference was worth it.

I really like all the varieties of Cubic I have tried.

I think baking your own bread is a lovely hobby, not for me though.

46 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I made a loaf the other day, 60/40%, bread/whole wheat flour, and really don't care for the texture. Healthwise would be minimal over my normal 75/25% ratios. Sugar content still the same 10gr of ~880gr, so a bit irrelevant.

I've used different ratios making Rye bread also, but don't care for the rye flour sold here, as just OK, and silly priced. Nothing like the rye flour we used at the bakeries I worked at.

Never bothered making sourdough, as don't eat enough bread to keep the starter going & using.

There's a German bakery/deli in Hua Hin just north of Bluport on the left that makes the best rye bread I've ever had in Thailand. Likely about 90% whole grain. Nordic style. Pane y Focaccia also makes a very good rye bread but I don't think they use nearly as much whole flour.

Edited September 3Sep 3 by spidermike007

20 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Cubic breads are great.

Tasty.

Healthy.

For a while I didn't buy Cubic cuz I thought Farmhouse is less expensive.

Then I decided the difference was worth it.

I really like all the varieties of Cubic I have tried.

I think baking your own bread is a lovely hobby, not for me though.

I like Cubic bread and Skinny Bites.

My favourite is Oat toast from Skinny Bites

22 minutes ago, CLW said:

I like Cubic bread and Skinny Bites.

My favourite is Oat toast from Skinny Bites

I'll have to check out Skinny Bites.

I'll look for it.

Bake your own, then you know exactly what goes into it. Otherwise Gourmet or Tops for reasonable bread. There are some excellent bakeries around Bangkok check them out online. Larder, a Polish bakery/café in Phrom Phong has very very good bread. I am sure there are others I have seen online, which I assume are equally good.

I buy sourdough bread from Harry's Bakery in Soi Buakaow about 100 metres from the market. I buy it in bulk and put in the freezer when I get back to my home in Bangkok. I've lived in Thailand for 25 years and I've never found a bread that suits me until I discovered Harry's Bakery. I also keep sourdough bread in my Pattaya condo freezer

I was thinking of buying a bread making machine , does anybody know where I can obtain a recipe for that green "bread" that they sell (or used to sell) in 7-11 ?