cheeryble Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Hi I am cycling up and down the river most days. In an area south of Padua.....ie where the road from Hang Dong meets the river.....I am seeing eagles regularly circling for prey. I think they are not fishing, but mostly interested in the wide banks. Also saw one yesterday over nearby fields. I once saw one change mode as if it was about to go down, it pulled it's extremities into a ball briefly and it's flight changed character completely and it turned on a dime, but changed it's mind. It is pretty big. It is brown. It has "fingers" at the end of it's wing feathers. Its tail is like a folded fan but not rounded it's kinda cut straight across. I have seen a pair but pretty sure once it was three (strange?) and yesterday was one. Any idea what I'm seeing so i can learn more? Sorry I don't have a suitable camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau thai Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 And there was me expecting a floating concert -Hotel California etc. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 And there was me expecting a floating concert -Hotel California etc. Hmm. God forbid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Possibly a mountain hawk eagle. Or Goshawk? Maybe member Goshawk will be along to help identify. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousehound Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Raptors are tricky and especially for beginners. There are a lot of possibilities. The "jiz" is important. ie the way it flies, as is habitat and time of year as well as location. I would pm "Goshawk" as suggested. I recon to be pretty good at raptors but I think he has more local knowledge and is more likely to know what you may have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiterussian Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Maybe - Crested serpent eagle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiDBstRrxGk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) I think not the Mountain Hawk Eagle I didn't see all that white. (although funny enough I thought I remembered a patch of white under each wing on an earlier view but not yesterday. It wasn't however a long line of white. Yet yesterday I don't remember seeing white.......two species?) The Crested Serpent is definitely a possibility. I shall take my best camera....the iPad....with me and try to get a moving shot. Oh....and what about my suggestion that there were three? Why would they hang out like that? Edited April 7, 2015 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousehound Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Crested Serpent-Eagles are quite common. The adult is dark from below with a single distinct white band on the tail and on the wings (toward the trailing edge but with the trailing edge itself being seen as a black line.). The immature bird is quite pale and streaked or dotted appearance from below. They soar or glide with wings held in a (mid) V . The tail appears quite short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerbalKint Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 "fingers" and straight tail sounds like a black kite to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) "fingers" and straight tail sounds like a black kite to me Now you're talking VerbalKint Here's a pic i downloaded You'll notice the white patches under the wings......these are more or less what I was talking about. Tail is pretty square cut too and about the same "fan" angle and I noticed very much the tail skewing one way or the other as a flight surface just as the photo. What the hell's the difference between a kite and an eagle? Eat's prey more politely? Edited April 8, 2015 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMBob Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Here's a little better view... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiterussian Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Kites are smaller than eagles... loads of what I thought were Serpent Eagles here on the ping down by Baan Tawai - way bigger than the photo below of a black kite... seen them catch fish too... or perhaps it was a serpent in the river. Edited April 8, 2015 by whiterussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Here's a little better view... ..........Showing the White patches perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Kites are smaller than eagles... loads of what I thought were Serpent Eagles here on the ping down by Baan Tawai - way bigger than the photo below of a black kite... seen them catch fish too... or perhaps it was a serpent in the river.Sounds like the same place Whitey.....Can you tell me why they would gather in a three (saw once)? I mean from the point of view of selective advantage.... And do they have like a permanent nest or sort of drift up and down the river following the food? Edited April 8, 2015 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiterussian Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Don't know Cheery... I'll have to try and snap a photo - see them most days here:https://maps.google.com/maps?&hl=en&ll=18.678823,98.978169&spn=0.00002,0.009645&sll=14.532799,-91.680672&sspn=0.017842,0.01929&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=18.679131,98.978562&panoid=o6TaNOZuvwtYcOSTrPvk1g&cbp=12,202.77,,0,-0.2I always assumed they lived somewhere over in the lum yay fields stretching out to lampoon. This spot above is where the new 6 lane highway is crossing... grrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) That's it Whitey they can be downriver from there too. Yes heard about this highway bit sad it's a lovely unspoiled bit of river almost like one owns it. Will I be able to whizz up to CMU area quickly? Where will it connect? Edited April 12, 2015 by cheeryble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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