papa al Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/makes-most-reliable-motorcycle-100025261.html Hard finding a mech to fix your beemer outside BKK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy218 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/makes-most-reliable-motorcycle-100025261.html Hard finding a mech to fix your beemer outside BKK? Never had a problem with mine but the BMW motorbike agent here in Chiang Mai has a less than enviable reputation. I am surprised BMW have not taken their motorbike situation in tbis country more seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/makes-most-reliable-motorcycle-100025261.html Hard finding a mech to fix your beemer outside BKK? Never had a problem with mine but the BMW motorbike agent here in Chiang Mai has a less than enviable reputation. I am surprised BMW have not taken their motorbike situation in tbis country more seriously! Here in Phuket BMW proper closed down the dealer (Barcelona) and now there is a dedicated BMW Motorrad dealer called Siam Motorrad. Let's see how they will fair in the future. But regardless of dealers they seem to have quality problems the past years. Quite a shame. Really interesting how these premium brands have the lowest quality ratings. Yamaha is doing lots of things very right since past year, I just hope they start making bikes locally here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 honda ... end of thread:mellow: Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 kawasaki ... end of thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Yamaha is doing lots of things very right since past year, I just hope they start making bikes locally here. I just hope the big four introduce standardized testing for every mechanic in every one of their shops here. Able to pass the most basic of mechanical competence tests. Able to follow instructions without getting angry. IQ above 40. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Honda's are very reliable and also helps its easy to get parts and service in BKK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Honda. Nuff Said! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 If we are talking prettiest though I would have to say Augusta F3 and F4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy218 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/makes-most-reliable-motorcycle-100025261.html Hard finding a mech to fix your beemer outside BKK? Never had a problem with mine but the BMW motorbike agent here in Chiang Mai has a less than enviable reputation. I am surprised BMW have not taken their motorbike situation in tbis country more seriously! Here in Phuket BMW proper closed down the dealer (Barcelona) and now there is a dedicated BMW Motorrad dealer called Siam Motorrad. Let's see how they will fair in the future. But regardless of dealers they seem to have quality problems the past years. Quite a shame. Really interesting how these premium brands have the lowest quality ratings. Yamaha is doing lots of things very right since past year, I just hope they start making bikes locally here. Mine is a 10 year old RT. It has never given a problem although it has never been left at Barcelona. A friends bike was and it has never been right since. I wonder if that is the source of the unreliability. Interesting that BMW has taken that action although I think they need to do this for the whole country. To get a flavour of the local agent read GT rider, you would never take your bike back to their agent again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston broke Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Honda ( RIP LL2) ....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Those in the know , and those in the the industry , have reconised Yamaha has consistently had the best build quality , and has had for 6 or 7 years. Like Hondas from years ago , the older BMW,s are fine bikes , but the newer ones just seem to often lack that quality of old that gained them that enviable reputation . Im reluctant to ask ( been away for a few months ) but what happened to ll2 ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well now based on brand shop availability... Of course HONDA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 kawasaki ... end of thread. Lol... All jokes aside, Honda takes it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The question was for quality , not quantity . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailaw Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) The question was for quality , not quantity . The answer to both questions in Thailand is "Honda". And the main reason for the answer to the second question is the answer to the first question. QED. In a recent Consumer Reports survey of 12,300 US motorcycle owners, the following ranking for "owner satisfaction" was found: "Impacting overall satisfaction and reflecting reliability, we saw cost of maintenance and repair be a satisfaction issue with BMW, Can-Am, Ducati, and Harley. Owner satisfaction Brand Would definitely buy again Victory 80% Harley-Davidson 72 Honda 70 BMW 68 Can-Am 67 Ducati 66 Yamaha 65 Triumph 63 Kawasaki 59 Suzuki 58 " I doubt that Harley would get as high marks from owners here in Thailand, but they are a loyal (and irrational) lot to be sure, and even with a high owner satisfaction rating, Harley, BMW and Ducati have noted maintenance and high cost of repair problems. And I don't think that Victory is available in Thailand, so that would put Honda at the top of the ranking if it was done here in Thailand, where IMO it belongs without question (both for reliability and overall satisfaction). Interestingly, Suzuki is dead last, which IMO is where it belongs. Edited April 11, 2015 by Thailaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 honda ... end of thread:mellow: Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Honda always makes a great product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailaw Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 honda ... end of thread:mellow: Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Honda always makes a great product. I would not give Honda cars anywhere near as high a relative ranking against other manufacturers as I give their motorcycles. At best, Honda comes in third in the automobile arena. That said, I do like the new Accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo78 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Honda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit_Doggie Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 If it's jap it not crap honda,suzuki. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewrooney Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Those in the know , and those in the the industry , have reconised Yamaha has consistently had the best build quality , and has had for 6 or 7 years. Like Hondas from years ago , the older BMW,s are fine bikes , but the newer ones just seem to often lack that quality of old that gained them that enviable reputation . Im reluctant to ask ( been away for a few months ) but what happened to ll2 ?. He's still alive and well but not posting here any more. Can't say why (DELETED) Edited April 12, 2015 by seedy discuss moderation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Those in the know , and those in the the industry , have reconised Yamaha has consistently had the best build quality , and has had for 6 or 7 years. Like Hondas from years ago , the older BMW,s are fine bikes , but the newer ones just seem to often lack that quality of old that gained them that enviable reputation . Im reluctant to ask ( been away for a few months ) but what happened to ll2 ?. He's still alive and well but not posting here any more. Can't say why (DELETED) the plot thickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewrooney Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Those in the know , and those in the the industry , have reconised Yamaha has consistently had the best build quality , and has had for 6 or 7 years. Like Hondas from years ago , the older BMW,s are fine bikes , but the newer ones just seem to often lack that quality of old that gained them that enviable reputation . Im reluctant to ask ( been away for a few months ) but what happened to ll2 ?. He's still alive and well but not posting here any more. Can't say why (DELETED) the plot thickens 55 it makes my post seem so much more sinister and important now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ktm jeff Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 Thank you andrewrooney , i guessed only a matter of time , going by some of his posts . Shame really , as he posted some very good info. Didnt agree with his blind love of all things Honda , but you cant deny his passion . Thailaw , good info , but surveys are flawed by their very nature as no-one , when asked about their bike , wants to admit its not as good as they had hoped . This applies not only to bikes . I think many will agree , Hondas of today arent up to the standard they were years ago (IMO) .Main thing is to own a bike ( ANY BIKE ) that , for whatever reason , you enjoy . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerkid Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Honda. Nuff Said! Sorry to rain on your parade but according to the article the OP mentioned its Yamaha that makes the most reliable bikes followed by Suzuki and Honda comes in third. It is based on a survey of more then 11.000 people. The 4 japanese manufacturers are so close that in my opinion they are a class apart. It is just that for some reason Honda owners (especially on this forum) always like to brag about their bikes being the best, most reliable , having the lowest depreciation and whatever else they can come up with . Though they are the easiest to get serviced, that is for sure. Reliablity by brand Brand Percent failed by the fourth year of ownership Yamaha/Star 11% Suzuki 12 Honda 12 Kawasaki 15 Victory 17 Harley-Davidson 26 Triumph 29 Ducati 33 BMW 40 Can-Am 42 Edited April 12, 2015 by pokerkid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 The irony is that the world's largest producer of motorbikes is absent on the list. Some Chinese company. Not that I'm suggesting it would rank high in reliability. Dunno. But sales numbers are an even more important a way of 'voting,' right? Have a safe Songkran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The question was for quality , not quantity . The answer to both questions in Thailand is "Honda". And the main reason for the answer to the second question is the answer to the first question. QED. In a recent Consumer Reports survey of 12,300 US motorcycle owners, the following ranking for "owner satisfaction" was found: "Impacting overall satisfaction and reflecting reliability, we saw cost of maintenance and repair be a satisfaction issue with BMW, Can-Am, Ducati, and Harley. Owner satisfaction Brand Would definitely buy again Victory 80% Harley-Davidson 72 Honda 70 BMW 68 Can-Am 67 Ducati 66 Yamaha 65 Triumph 63 Kawasaki 59 Suzuki 58 " I doubt that Harley would get as high marks from owners here in Thailand, but they are a loyal (and irrational) lot to be sure, and even with a high owner satisfaction rating, Harley, BMW and Ducati have noted maintenance and high cost of repair problems. And I don't think that Victory is available in Thailand, so that would put Honda at the top of the ranking if it was done here in Thailand, where IMO it belongs without question (both for reliability and overall satisfaction). Interestingly, Suzuki is dead last, which IMO is where it belongs. I think Harley owners go for the buzz they get........."buzz" as in vibration and their GF's (if they have one) don't need a spin dryer. There are quite a few round the world bikers who ride Suzuki's, so can't be that bad. The worst (Phantom) and best (Wave) bikes I have ever owned (reliability wise) have both been Hondas, both made in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Having owned and ridden everything from Harleys to various manufacturers dirt bikes and crotch rockets over the last 50 years, my own tainted opinion has to go with Honda as the most reliable... YMMV... The question should have been which is the worst bike, which IMO unequivocally goes the Harley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The irony is that the world's largest producer of motorbikes is absent on the list. Some Chinese company. Not that I'm suggesting it would rank high in reliability. Dunno. But sales numbers are an even more important a way of 'voting,' right? Have a safe Songkran. wrong they could get high sales based soley on price.Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttakata Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Skip to 5:22 and 6:10 if you want to skip the story. I wouldn't want to own one, but answers the OP's question. Edited April 16, 2015 by ttakata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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