UDD's request to commemorate 2010 bloodshed rejected

[webfact]

UDD's request to commemorate 2010 bloodshed rejected

BANGKOK:-- Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said Wednesday that members of the United Front of Democracy against Dictatorship or red-shirt movement must individually hold religious rites at their own homes to commemorate their peers killed during the 2010 crackdowns.

Prawit said troops were also killed in the incidents so if the UDD was allowed to hold a rally, it would escalate into a political issue.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/UDDs-request-to-commemorate-2010-bloodshed-rejecte-30257655.html


-- The Nation 2015-04-08

[Costas2008]

UDD, had never any concern about the dead.

They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.

It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.

[JOC]

If the government had been a little smart, they would have arranged a small commemoration and invited some red shirt leaders. Left politics out just for a day, and mourned the death of fellow Thais!!

[Fat Haggis]

Well said Costas every now and then you do post something worth liking ?

[LannaGuy]

UDD, had never any concern about the dead.

They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.

It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.

rubbish again costas they have turned this INTO a political football by denying people the right to mourn

show some respect for the deceased

[Bluespunk]

Nice headline. Not pejorative in the slightest.

[than]

UDD, had never any concern about the dead.

They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.

It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.

rubbish again costas they have turned this INTO a political football by denying people the right to mourn

show some respect for the deceased

It's just an hypocrite move from UDD, this dead just serve their purpose, incite unrest. It's a typical move of leftist group.

For memory, UDD never recognize killing in rank of official who make their duty to restore peace and order. Despite fact, evidence and criticize from international community, UDD never recognize existence of armed element in their camp. In 2010 UDD tried to overthrow the institutions for the benefit of one man

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

the UDD and Taksin used these paid protesters as human pawns. They fired them up (no pun intended) and sent in their own armed thugs to escalate the violence to further Taksin's personal thirst for power and greed. The first people killed from this UDD protest were innocent protesters on the opposing side that were blown up with RPG's (by the UDD thugs), the next was the military personnel including a high ranking member.

They started it, they got what they asked for. They wanted martyrs for Taksin's cause. This needs to be shown for what it is and not glorified. Taksin needs to be held responsible for this along with those guilty of terrorism.

If there is karma, I can't wait for it to happen.

[oneday]

Reform at it's best.

Forgive and forget...nah!

[halloween]

Don't worry about commemoration. Soon UDD will be able to re-enact it while wearing handcuffs.

[jdinasia]

UDD, had never any concern about the dead.

They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.

It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.

rubbish again costas they have turned this INTO a political football by denying people the right to mourn

show some respect for the deceased

You mean Colonel Romklao 's family? The redshirts started the violence in April 2010 and was the first overt appearance of the MIB.

[mikemac]

UDD, had never any concern about the dead.

They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.

It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.

rubbish again costas they have turned this INTO a political football by denying people the right to mourn

show some respect for the deceased

Read the op again, if you can, or have someone read it to you and explain what it says.

Nobody has been denied the right to mourn !

Take your red glasses off .............................

[Baerboxer]

UDD, had never any concern about the dead.

They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.

It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.

rubbish again costas they have turned this INTO a political football by denying people the right to mourn

show some respect for the deceased

Mourn? You are joking right?

So holding a rally, organized by self appointed leaders of a movement associated with terrorist and criminal actions wouldn't have been political?

They wouldn't have used it as an excuse to claim the sort of rubbish they usually spout?

Maybe the UDD leaders and their paymasters should show some respect for the deceased as Costas suggests rather than use them as a propaganda chip as they usually do.

[ourmanflint]

If the government had been a little smart, they would have arranged a small commemoration and invited some red shirt leaders. Left politics out just for a day, and mourned the death of fellow Thais!!

Why would any government have a commemoration service for a known terrorist group?

[wabothai]

The left have rights too.

There are plenty of peaceful ways to refrein them from making the commemorationa political one.

This use of "big daddy 44 power" makes things worse and will create even more

hatred.

Well done oh mighty general.

[webfact]

Redshirts plan for merit-making April 10 in remembrance of slain colleagues rejected



BANGKOK: -- Defence Minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwan today rejected a request by the redshirt leaders to hold a mass merit-making ceremony to remember their colleagues who died during the military crackdown of violent anti-government protests on April 10, 2010.

Gen Prawit, also deputy prime minister in charge of security, said if they wanted to hold merit-making ceremony, just do it personally at home, but not coming out in large group to remember those who died.

He said on that day many soldiers also died and the military had never held any ceremony to remember them on this day.

He said nobody would reject merit-making but just perform it at home.

Coming out in large group to remember those who died was.not good as it could turn a sensitive issue, he said.

He said the National Council for Peace and Order won’t prohibit merit-making but would like them it be held personally at home .

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/redshirts-plan-for-merit-making-april-10-in-remembrance-of-slain-colleagues-rejected


-- Thai PBS 2015-04-08

[Eric Loh]

You don't need permission to mourn the deaths of your own citizens by the guns of your own military. Everyone remember that fateful days. Just like Thammasart massacre 1976, the day will go down history in time live with infamy.

[ourmanflint]

You don't need permission to mourn the deaths of your own citizens by the guns of your own military. Everyone remember that fateful days. Just like Thammasart massacre 1976, the day will go down history in time live with infamy.

Complete BS, these two events were nothing like each other. Thammasat was a tragedy of a far greater magnitude and madness and should be remembered. What happened in 2010 was nothing more than thuggery

[brucec64]

the UDD and Taksin used these paid protesters as human pawns. They fired them up (no pun intended) and sent in their own armed thugs to escalate the violence to further Taksin's personal thirst for power and greed. The first people killed from this UDD protest were innocent protesters on the opposing side that were blown up with RPG's (by the UDD thugs), the next was the military personnel including a high ranking member.

They started it, they got what they asked for. They wanted martyrs for Taksin's cause. This needs to be shown for what it is and not glorified. Taksin needs to be held responsible for this along with those guilty of terrorism.

If there is karma, I can't wait for it to happen.

Seems like a lot of similarities to events in 2014. Violence used to block an election, these acts were provocation that escalated to further violence, and the resulting dead were used as a reason to overthrow the government.

No side is innocent in these ongoing conflicts, except one side used pawns to get an election, while the other side used pawns to take a government down.

[monkeycountry]

You don't need permission to mourn the deaths of your own citizens by the guns of your own military. Everyone remember that fateful days. Just like Thammasart massacre 1976, the day will go down history in time live with infamy.

To many I am sure you are right, but keep in mind that to many others, me included, it will go down in history as the day the army saved Bangkok from a terrorist attack.

[EnglishJohn]

The 2010 related attempts at propaganda are coming thick and fast : I get the feeling that the UDD are getting nervous.

Nobody to protect them this time ...

[EnglishJohn]

the UDD and Taksin used these paid protesters as human pawns. They fired them up (no pun intended) and sent in their own armed thugs to escalate the violence to further Taksin's personal thirst for power and greed. The first people killed from this UDD protest were innocent protesters on the opposing side that were blown up with RPG's (by the UDD thugs), the next was the military personnel including a high ranking member.

They started it, they got what they asked for. They wanted martyrs for Taksin's cause. This needs to be shown for what it is and not glorified. Taksin needs to be held responsible for this along with those guilty of terrorism.

If there is karma, I can't wait for it to happen.

Seems like a lot of similarities to events in 2014. Violence used to block an election, these acts were provocation that escalated to further violence, and the resulting dead were used as a reason to overthrow the government.

No side is innocent in these ongoing conflicts, except one side used pawns to get an election, while the other side used pawns to take a government down.

Congratulations : you get an award for the biggest load of crap I have read for a long time. It's a silver plated toy hand-grenade you can have fun with by throwing it at people you don't like.

The UDD terrorists were murdering protestors long before the PDRC tried to block the election. They were sent to do it to try and intimidate them off the streets. You know this as well as I do. What a hypocrite.

I'll tell you what : if you don't like the truth, just lie. Oh you did.

AllSeeingEye hit the nail on the head.

[newcomer71]

And here we are again... Red vs. Yellows...

Popcorns anyone?

[wabothai]

One has to recognize the rights of all otherwise there will be no democracy and eventually a civil war. Look at the Middle East.

[brucec64]

the UDD and Taksin used these paid protesters as human pawns. They fired them up (no pun intended) and sent in their own armed thugs to escalate the violence to further Taksin's personal thirst for power and greed. The first people killed from this UDD protest were innocent protesters on the opposing side that were blown up with RPG's (by the UDD thugs), the next was the military personnel including a high ranking member.

They started it, they got what they asked for. They wanted martyrs for Taksin's cause. This needs to be shown for what it is and not glorified. Taksin needs to be held responsible for this along with those guilty of terrorism.

If there is karma, I can't wait for it to happen.

Seems like a lot of similarities to events in 2014. Violence used to block an election, these acts were provocation that escalated to further violence, and the resulting dead were used as a reason to overthrow the government.

No side is innocent in these ongoing conflicts, except one side used pawns to get an election, while the other side used pawns to take a government down.

Congratulations : you get an award for the biggest load of crap I have read for a long time. It's a silver plated toy hand-grenade you can have fun with by throwing it at people you don't like.

The UDD terrorists were murdering protestors long before the PDRC tried to block the election. They were sent to do it to try and intimidate them off the streets. You know this as well as I do. What a hypocrite.

I'll tell you what : if you don't like the truth, just lie. Oh you did.

AllSeeingEye hit the nail on the head.

The only hypocrisy is the attempt to whitewash the criminal actions of suthep and company, working in conjunction with the military to manufacture events leading to the eventual coup.

Both sides are responsible for deaths. Simple as that. Not sure how you rationalize the moral high ground, but probably easy since your posts are generally irrational nonsense.

[JOC]

One has to recognize the rights of all otherwise there will be no democracy and eventually a civil war. Look at the Middle East.

Of course you are right, but to even think of a debate with the people on the far right is sadly a waste of time.

They are all drinking the same beer:

[Eric Loh]

You don't need permission to mourn the deaths of your own citizens by the guns of your own military. Everyone remember that fateful days. Just like Thammasart massacre 1976, the day will go down history in time live with infamy.

To many I am sure you are right, but keep in mind that to many others, me included, it will go down in history as the day the army saved Bangkok from a terrorist attack.

You do have the right to express, something in short supply at this trying time. Just that the word "save" is way off the mark. Here you have a military with overwhelming fire power against a static target and the majority of those killed were civilians, journalists, nurse and taxi drivers. If the casualties were MIB, I say well done but when the casualties are civilians, I called this brutality. More like the protestors needed to be saved when you faced with M16 and live ammo. To me it's indiscriminate and disproportionate use of force. That will be remembered in Thai history as another atrocity by the military.

[JAG]

UDD, had never any concern about the dead.

They are just hypocrites trying to make it a political issue for their gains and have no respect about anything as they proved before.

It is a black moment for the Thai history and should not be used for political purposes, but have some respect for the deceased.

rubbish again costas they have turned this INTO a political football by denying people the right to mourn

show some respect for the deceased

One thing I will never respect is a red shirt. Dead or alive.

I doubt that they have much time for you either!

[mikemac]

the UDD and Taksin used these paid protesters as human pawns. They fired them up (no pun intended) and sent in their own armed thugs to escalate the violence to further Taksin's personal thirst for power and greed. The first people killed from this UDD protest were innocent protesters on the opposing side that were blown up with RPG's (by the UDD thugs), the next was the military personnel including a high ranking member.

They started it, they got what they asked for. They wanted martyrs for Taksin's cause. This needs to be shown for what it is and not glorified. Taksin needs to be held responsible for this along with those guilty of terrorism.

If there is karma, I can't wait for it to happen.

Seems like a lot of similarities to events in 2014. Violence used to block an election, these acts were provocation that escalated to further violence, and the resulting dead were used as a reason to overthrow the government.

No side is innocent in these ongoing conflicts, except one side used pawns to get an election, while the other side used pawns to take a government down.

........................."except one side used pawns to get an election".........................

So you concede the people who perished in 2010 were sacrificed pawns ? As I have been saying for the past five years ?

As far as the innocent people who died on the public streets at the hands of the redshirts, a terrorist organization working on behalf of PTP, they were just plain murdered as far as I am concerned.

A disgrace to compare the two scenarios.

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

the UDD and Taksin used these paid protesters as human pawns. They fired them up (no pun intended) and sent in their own armed thugs to escalate the violence to further Taksin's personal thirst for power and greed. The first people killed from this UDD protest were innocent protesters on the opposing side that were blown up with RPG's (by the UDD thugs), the next was the military personnel including a high ranking member.

They started it, they got what they asked for. They wanted martyrs for Taksin's cause. This needs to be shown for what it is and not glorified. Taksin needs to be held responsible for this along with those guilty of terrorism.

If there is karma, I can't wait for it to happen.

Seems like a lot of similarities to events in 2014. Violence used to block an election, these acts were provocation that escalated to further violence, and the resulting dead were used as a reason to overthrow the government.

No side is innocent in these ongoing conflicts, except one side used pawns to get an election, while the other side used pawns to take a government down.

if you are blind or a bit retarded there may look to be similarities but there really is very few similarities. It was again the reds that created the violence against peaceful protesters in 2014 that were NOT barricaded and were NOT armed (although they did arm themselves later on after they were bombed and shot at many times) and did not come to the protests with the mandate to burn down Bkk. The protesters in 2014 were the victims of red violence as were many innocents including many children that were again blown up by RPG's by the red thug terrorists.

How you can keep spinning this insane stupidity when the facts are right there for you to see is beyond reason. It just goes to show the true ignorance of the human race and leaves me with little hope of a sane future.