Ace of Pop Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 . Benz cant be too pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Come on ace, don't take no rocket scientist to figure out replace the brakes on a Bentley costs more than replacing the entire front end of a civic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Come on ace, don't take no rocket scientist to figure out replace the brakes on a Bentley costs more than replacing the entire front end of a civic. The optional carbon ceramic brakes on my SUV cost the same as a whole car or pickup, LOL. No, I didn't spec them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) So it costs more to repair a Mitsu or Subaru in the UK than it does a Benz? That tells me the major component for Benz repairs is labour, not parts Edited April 16, 2015 by IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Its Headed Reliability. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dominique355 Posted April 16, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2015 What has repair cost got to do with reliability? That's two totally different shoes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Just asked where my Brit Chum where is the full article you E Mailed me. He cant remember.From some Newspaper. Ah well. true Brit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 What has repair cost got to do with reliability? That's two totally different shoes. True, , thats why i wanted the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 What has repair cost got to do with reliability? That's two totally different shoes. True, , thats why i wanted the full article What you don't know the source AoP (there's a clue here just to keep the thread going ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/565314/British-built-car-reliable-German-clunkers seems to give another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yep and there are many, many more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Fairfield Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Honda named UK's most reliable used car manufacturer 2015 Japanese brands like Honda continue to dominate the 2015 What Car? reliability survey, filling eight of top 10 places, while luxury and premium vehicles likely to break down most often Honda has been named the most reliable used car manufacturer in the UK for the ninth consecutive year, according to research by What Car? and Warranty Direct. The Japanese manufacturer topped the annual survey of 38 manufacturers, which analyses 50,000 live Warranty Direct policies on three to eight-year-old vehicles. Once again, Japanese and South Korean manufacturers dominated the annual study of the most reliable brands, with Suzuki and Toyota claiming second and third place. Encouragingly for other manufacturers however, Chevrolet, Ford, Skoda, Peugeot and Fiat also forced their way into the top 10. At the opposite end of the scale, luxury and prestige marques Bentley and Porsche are the most likely to break down, with 93% of Bentleys on Warranty Direct’s books suffering a problem each year, making it Britain’s least dependable car maker. The full results were as follows: 1 Honda2 Suzuki 3 Toyota4= Chevrolet4= Mazda5 Ford6 Lexus7 Skoda 8= Hyundai8= Nissan8= Subaru9= Daewoo 9= Peugeot10 Fiat 11 Citroen12 Smart13 Mitsubishi14 Kia 15 Vauxhall16 Seat17 Renault18 Mini19 Volkswagen20 Rover 21 Volvo 22 Saab23= BMW23= MG24 Jaguar26 SsangYong26 Mercedes-Benz27 Chrysler28 Audi 29 Jeep30 Alfa Romeo31 Land Rover32 Porsche33 Bentley Source: http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/honda-named-uks-reliable-used-car-manufacturer-2015/1342848 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Just asked where my Brit Chum where is the full article you E Mailed me. He cant remember.From some Newspaper. Ah well. true Brit. Try here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/11537964/Bentleys-are-the-least-reliable-cars-says-survey.html Google is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Without more info - meaningless. Reliable how ? Warranty claim how ? If a small piece of trim comes loose, and it goes to the dealer for repair, is this counted ? Is as much weight given to this as a rod thru the side of the block ? You can make statistics say whatever you mean - and I would hazard a guess that people who buy a Bentley are - shall we say - fussy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 This is what is amazing The top 3 auto makers are Japanese They do make very good cars I would not have an American car even if you gave it to me This is from past experience 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 A vehicle is only reliable until it breaks and as all vehicles break given enough time they are all unreliable. Half of the vehicle's unreliability is the quality of the manufacturer and the other half is the driving habits and skills (or lack thereof) of its owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think the stats are strange,specialy on the money side.To me its how many owners have broken down roadside that measures reliability, not some Boys Toys like Park Assists gone wrong..... Benz Unreliable .? now that is stretching things even for bribed motoring press. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phra Ek Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Looks like a strange way to rank reliability ..... "The study ranks manufacturers by taking into account each vehicle’s failure rate, age, mileage and cost of repair". Most of the more exotic cars are used less than the everyday cars, and their repair rates are bound to be higher - so that will automatically rank them lower. The Bugatti Veyron should be the lowest ranked car using this system. Low mileage as they are rich man's toys - and mega cost of repair. But Chrysler and MG must be bad to rank so low as their repair costs and mileage should be average (assuming it's the Chinese MG and Italian Chrysler and not a vintage MG TF or a Chrysler Imperial). Edited April 16, 2015 by Phra Ek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon999 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 So it costs more to repair a Mitsu or Subaru in the UK than it does a Benz? That tells me the major component for Benz repairs is labour, not parts The Mitsu is probably an Evo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "...Used Car Manufacturer[,]" I guess that explains why used cars are so expensive in Thailand...they're actually new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 "...Used Car Manufacturer[,]" I guess that explains why used cars are so expensive in Thailand...they're actually new Yea ,,I didn't know either that they make used cars,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Best cars I ever owned were Hondas, two Preludes, about 1995 and 1998, technologically advanced, fast, beautiful to drive, great looks, exceptional value, and reliable. Edited April 17, 2015 by F4UCorsair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Sorry if a little off track. I know this relates to the UK market but I have to agree with them in relation to the Honda. Bought a new CRV back in 2013 and have just clicked up 50,000 k's. Now, touch wood, after almost two years of driving on many of the autobahns in Thailand, oh sorry wrong country, the highways in Thailand, my vehicle has held together and the only expenses incurred are those for the 6 monthly services at the selling dealer. (range between 1800 and 3300 baht) The tyres are still original, I'd say at least another 20,000 k's, brakes have not been changed and it just goes and goes. Cost a bloody fortune to buy, considering the cost back home, which is about 500,000 less than here but I understand that it's the tax that is the killer. Had one claim when a dog ran under the front of the car, the whole lower front section replaced and at no cost to me, no excess. I was absolutely amazed. I find that the service provided is far above those back home, drinks (soft) and lunch at no cost, the vehicle washed afterwards, no extra charge. The company even arranges my insurance and registration when due, again at no extra cost. I have no complaints and a great vehicle. My repair costs in almost 2 years; Nil. Edited April 17, 2015 by Si Thea01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Sorry if a little off track. I know this relates to the UK market but I have to agree with them in relation to the Honda. Bought a new CRV back in 2013 and have just clicked up 50,000 k's. Now, touch wood, after almost two years of driving on many of the autobahns in Thailand, oh sorry wrong country, the highways in Thailand, my vehicle has held together and the only expenses incurred are those for the 6 monthly services at the selling dealer. (range between 1800 and 3300 baht) The tyres are still original, I'd say at least another 20,000 k's, brakes have not been changed and it just goes and goes. Cost a bloody fortune to buy, considering the cost back home, which is about 500,000 less than here but I understand that it's the tax that is the killer. Had one claim when a dog ran under the front of the car, the whole lower front section replaced and at no cost to me, no excess. I was absolutely amazed. I find that the service provided is far above those back home, drinks (soft) and lunch at no cost, the vehicle washed afterwards, no extra charge. The company even arranges my insurance and registration when due, again at no extra cost. I have no complaints and a great vehicle. My repair costs in almost 2 years; Nil. I guess everyone has stories like this... I have a 6yo Isuzu D-Max with 210,000KM on the clock, the only non-scheduled service was an AC fan blower that a critter got into, I also have a 5yo Pajero Sport with 170,000KM on the clock, which has had nothing but routine servicing - and both of them are cars we loan out to family and friends, so don't get the TLC of our other cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnomick Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 "...Used Car Manufacturer[,]" I guess that explains why used cars are so expensive in Thailand...they're actually new Yea ,,I didn't know either that they make used cars,, I thought the automobile industry had progressed so far that it could now manufacture ' used cars '. I'm waiting for the Friday car which has a dent in every panel especially for Thailand so you don't have to worry about parking in BigC or Tesco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windas Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Most cars over three years old break down at some stage if not serviced properly, and in my experience thats the main cause of a breakdown. Putting off the repair of a problem leads inevitability to a breakdown. Statistics only tell a small part of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khunangkaro Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 ISUZU (one of the) BEST.!! Not in the list of ever brought in for repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Best cars I ever owned were Hondas, two Preludes, about 1995 and 1998, technologically advanced, fast, beautiful to drive, great looks, exceptional value, and reliable. I agree. The former fiancee in Houston had one and I used to like thrashing that around the Beltway or up 45 to Dallas when needs must. Nice style too but not very practical for getting the legover inside though when one of the party is over 6' (fun trying though). A neighbour in my village outside Pattaya has a collection of nice 'old' cars that includes a Rover 200 and a white Prelude. If I have any spare cash and a well preserved one popped up on the market, I reckon I wouldn't be able to resist that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) This is what is amazing The top 3 auto makers are Japanese They do make very good cars I would not have an American car even if you gave it to me This is from past experience What is your definition of an 'American car'? What is the relevance to the article cited in the OP that is about the UK car market, ie. cars that are available on the UK market? What is the relevance of this to the Thai car market, ie. cars that are available on the new, non-grey car market in Thailand? Thanks! Edited April 19, 2015 by NanLaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 What has repair cost got to do with reliability? That's two totally different shoes. It gives buyers two different angles, the apparently most reliable is not the cheapest to repair when it does go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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