Asian-African Summit adopts declaration on Palestine

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Asian-African Summit adopts declaration on Palestine
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JAKARTA, April 24 (Xinhua) -- The Asian-African Summit 2015 adopted a declaration on Palestine, which reaffirmed full support of the just struggle of the Palestinian people to regain their right to self-determination.

The document said that leaders to the summit remained committed to the principles of self-determination as set forth in the Final Communique of the Bandung Conference in 1955, and in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

"We deplore the fact that sixty years since the Bandung Conference, the Palestinian people remain deprived of their rights, freedom and independence, and that millions of Palestinians are still living under occupation and as refugees," read the declaration.

The leaders of Asian and African countries reaffirmed their " full support of the just struggle of the Palestinian people to regain their inalienable right to self-determination, including the realization of the sovereignty and independence of their State of Palestine with East Jerusalem as its capital."

According to the declaration, the only viable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is an agreement which ends the illegal Israeli occupation that began in 1967, resolve all permanent status issues. And a just, lasting and comprehensive settle of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is imperative for achieving peace and security in the region.

Full story: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-04/23/c_134178573.htm

-- Xinhua 2015-04-24

[geriatrickid]

For some strange reason, the meeting which was underwritten in large part by China:

- Did not discuss the protection of human rights in the participating Asian and African nations

- Did not address plight of the muslim Rohingya refugees who are exploited and abused by Bangladesh, and Myanmar and others

- Did not make any reference to Chinese expansionism in the region

- Did not take up the issue of the ongoing infectious disease outbreaks and the resurgence of HIV in the region and how the growing incidence of malaria, TB and other diseases are negatively impacting development in the region

- Did not make any statement in the support of free elections or an end to sectarian strife which has caused turmoil in much of Africa

- Made no mention of the slaughter of immigrants in South Africa

- Offered nothing constructive in respect to jihadist insurgencies in participant countries.

And yet they found time to offer "moral" support to Palestinian arabs. I don't know what they accomplished during their extended stay at the luxury Hyatt in Jakarta. Nice to know that bankrupt countries like Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone and others were able to find the money to send delegates on a junket, while people back home starved.

Meanwhile, the non Asian /non African countries were busy providing billions of $/Euros to fund the health programs and economic development of the participating countries.

[Naam]

for some obvious reason any points you mentioned are totally irrelevant as far as a declaration on Palestine is concerned

[Ulysses G.]

What a surprise, the Asian-African Summit of Hypocrites ignores all their own human rights problems.

[up-country_sinclair]

The leaders of Asian and African countries reaffirmed their " full support of the just struggle of the Palestinian people to regain their inalienable right to self-determination, including the realization of the sovereignty and independence of their State of Palestine with East Jerusalem as its capital."

Bravo!

[kblaze]

What a surprise, the Asian-African Summit of Hypocrites ignores all their own human rights problems.

So should we ignore any resolutions from a G7 summit?

[geriatrickid]

What a surprise, the Asian-African Summit of Hypocrites ignores all their own human rights problems.

So should we ignore any resolutions from a G7 summit?

Nope. Whether you like it or not, the G7 countries are the world's economic engine. From these countries flow much of the aid monies that fund projects like TB and malaria control in Thailand. Much of the success in controlling the ravages of HIV in Asia and Africa come courtesy of G7 countries. You know all those Africa and Arab migrants that keep drowning off the coast of Italy? Well, they are trying to make their way to the G7 countries. They aren't headed to China. It would be easier for them to make a run to bastions of freedom like Pakistan or Tunisia or Algeria, but for some strange reason, these participants at the African-Asia summit have done their utmost to keep them out, killing and exploiting them.

[geriatrickid]

for some obvious reason any points you mentioned are totally irrelevant as far as a declaration on Palestine is concerned

Nope. If you take the time to read the empty declaration, the hypocrisy runs in torrents. The very principles they claimed to apply in the drafting of the resolution are ignored by almost all of the participants at the summit. I found it somewhat humorous that Germany finally called the state sponsored murder of the Armenian Christians a genocide, causing Turkey's President to practically crap his pants. Again, no statement from this gathering of collective moochers as to the adventures of al shabab in Africa or ISIS in North Africa. Thousands are dying and not a word from these people.

BTW, the resolution wasn't unanimous, as some countries did express embarrassment as they could see the double standard that was applied. However, Indonesia's hangman of a President needed to polish his resume with the fundamentalists in his country who are still unsure about him.

[FangFerang]

For some strange reason, the meeting which was underwritten in large part by China:

- Did not discuss the protection of human rights in the participating Asian and African nations

- Did not address plight of the muslim Rohingya refugees who are exploited and abused by Bangladesh, and Myanmar and others

- Did not make any reference to Chinese expansionism in the region

- Did not take up the issue of the ongoing infectious disease outbreaks and the resurgence of HIV in the region and how the growing incidence of malaria, TB and other diseases are negatively impacting development in the region

- Did not make any statement in the support of free elections or an end to sectarian strife which has caused turmoil in much of Africa

- Made no mention of the slaughter of immigrants in South Africa

- Offered nothing constructive in respect to jihadist insurgencies in participant countries.

And yet they found time to offer "moral" support to Palestinian arabs. I don't know what they accomplished during their extended stay at the luxury Hyatt in Jakarta. Nice to know that bankrupt countries like Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone and others were able to find the money to send delegates on a junket, while people back home starved.

Meanwhile, the non Asian /non African countries were busy providing billions of $/Euros to fund the health programs and economic development of the participating countries.

Well said!

And the Palestinians should get their own territory back.

[Baerboxer]

For some strange reason, the meeting which was underwritten in large part by China:

- Did not discuss the protection of human rights in the participating Asian and African nations

- Did not address plight of the muslim Rohingya refugees who are exploited and abused by Bangladesh, and Myanmar and others

- Did not make any reference to Chinese expansionism in the region

- Did not take up the issue of the ongoing infectious disease outbreaks and the resurgence of HIV in the region and how the growing incidence of malaria, TB and other diseases are negatively impacting development in the region

- Did not make any statement in the support of free elections or an end to sectarian strife which has caused turmoil in much of Africa

- Made no mention of the slaughter of immigrants in South Africa

- Offered nothing constructive in respect to jihadist insurgencies in participant countries.

And yet they found time to offer "moral" support to Palestinian arabs. I don't know what they accomplished during their extended stay at the luxury Hyatt in Jakarta. Nice to know that bankrupt countries like Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone and others were able to find the money to send delegates on a junket, while people back home starved.

Meanwhile, the non Asian /non African countries were busy providing billions of $/Euros to fund the health programs and economic development of the participating countries.

Well said!

And the Palestinians should get their own territory back.

Which wasn't there territory to start with!

Maybe the tribes of Israel should also get their own ancient historic territory back, and be free from terrorist attacks to live there too.

[kblaze]

What a surprise, the Asian-African Summit of Hypocrites ignores all their own human rights problems.

So should we ignore any resolutions from a G7 summit?

Nope. Whether you like it or not, the G7 countries are the world's economic engine. From these countries flow much of the aid monies that fund projects like TB and malaria control in Thailand. Much of the success in controlling the ravages of HIV in Asia and Africa come courtesy of G7 countries. You know all those Africa and Arab migrants that keep drowning off the coast of Italy? Well, they are trying to make their way to the G7 countries. They aren't headed to China. It would be easier for them to make a run to bastions of freedom like Pakistan or Tunisia or Algeria, but for some strange reason, these participants at the African-Asia summit have done their utmost to keep them out, killing and exploiting them.

You are missing the point; if you seek to disqualify resolutions made by countries simply because of their human rights abuses, then the G7 resolutions would also fall into that category given the members histories of human rights abuses. Now I don't want to get into "whose abuses were/are worse", but the fact remains that from the US to Japan, one could easily list abuses that those countries have committed both in the past and in the present.

[wabothai]

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For some strange reason, the meeting which was underwritten in large part by China:

- Did not discuss the protection of human rights in the participating Asian and African nations

- Did not address plight of the muslim Rohingya refugees who are exploited and abused by Bangladesh, and Myanmar and others

- Did not make any reference to Chinese expansionism in the region

- Did not take up the issue of the ongoing infectious disease outbreaks and the resurgence of HIV in the region and how the growing incidence of malaria, TB and other diseases are negatively impacting development in the region

- Did not make any statement in the support of free elections or an end to sectarian strife which has caused turmoil in much of Africa

- Made no mention of the slaughter of immigrants in South Africa

- Offered nothing constructive in respect to jihadist insurgencies in participant countries.

And yet they found time to offer "moral" support to Palestinian arabs. I don't know what they accomplished during their extended stay at the luxury Hyatt in Jakarta. Nice to know that bankrupt countries like Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone and others were able to find the money to send delegates on a junket, while people back home starved.

Meanwhile, the non Asian /non African countries were busy providing billions of $/Euros to fund the health programs and economic development of the participating countries.

The Palestinians need the moral support mr, (hate Palestians) Ulysses and friends.

[Ulysses G.]

"The Palestinians need the moral support".

The Palestinians need to stop the terrorist attacks and sign a peace treaty. If they had tried peaceful means to resolve their problems 67 years ago, they would have had their own country long ago and possibly be thriving like Israel is.

[Srikcir]

"The Asian-African Summit 2015 adopted a declaration on Palestine, which reaffirmed full support of the just struggle of the Palestinian people to regain their right to self-determination."

They should have included Thailand in a similar declaration.

[Bwanatickey]

Armenian Genocide day was remembered today.

But not in Turkey.

[ABCer]

The Palestinians need to stop the terrorist attacks and sign a peace treaty. If they had tried peaceful means to resolve their problems 67 years ago, they would have had their own country long ago and possibly be thriving like Israel is.

When, where ever did they have their own country?

When, where ever did they thrive?

A pleasing bullsh*t is still bullsh*t...

Be truthful, stop trying to please whoever it is you are trying to please.

[Ulysses G.]

The Palestinians NEVER had their own country, but if they had accepted the UN deal in 1948 and worked at improvements, instead of armed conflict, they MIGHT have a thriving country by now. That is what Israel did and it worked for them.

[DeaconJohn]

The Palestinians NEVER had their own country, but if they had accepted the UN deal in 1948 and worked at improvements, instead of armed conflict, they MIGHT have a thriving country by now. That is what Israel did and it worked for them.

The Jews were expelled from Roman Judea in 132 AD and the province became Syria Palestina in 135 AD.

Until 1878 when a group of Zionists established an agricultural settlement, are there any historical references to the Jews in Palestine?

[Ulysses G.]

Nonsense. There has been a continuous presence of Jews in Palestine for over 3,000 years.

Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/The_Jewish_Claim_To_The_Land_Of_Israel.html

Edited April 26, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[englishoak]

Nonsense. There has been a continuous presence of Jews in Palestine for over 3,00 years.

Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/The_Jewish_Claim_To_The_Land_Of_Israel.html

Funny how you mention Palestine so frequently yet deny it ever existed and dosnt deserve to today.

[Ulysses G.]

WRONG. Palestine is a geographical area. There has NEVER been an independent Arab country by that name.

Edited April 26, 2015 by Ulysses G.

[englishoak]

WRONG. Palestine is a geographical area. There has NEVER been an independent Arab country by that name.

So ive heard some lawyers say, Im sure all Israelis will be glad to know they actually reside in Palestine.

[Ulysses G.]

I doubt if they mind. Before modern Israel was formed in 1948, the Jews in the area were called "Palestinians" after the ancient kingdom. The Arabs were called "Arabs" , because that is what they were.

[DeaconJohn]

Nonsense. There has been a continuous presence of Jews in Palestine for over 3,000 years.

Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/The_Jewish_Claim_To_The_Land_Of_Israel.html

10,000 Jews in Ottoman Palestine... really?

How many Palestinians were there at that time?

[DeaconJohn]

I doubt if they mind. Before modern Israel was formed in 1948, the Jews in the area were called "Palestinians" after the ancient kingdom. The Arabs were called "Arabs" , because that is what they were.

What source claims that the Jews were called Palestinians?

Jews are always called Jews.

[Ulysses G.]

What source claims that the Jews were called Palestinians?

It is hardly a secret. it is a well-known fact.

Under the Ottoman Empire (1517-1917), the term Palestine was used as a general term to describe the land south of Syria; it was not an official designation. In fact, many Ottomans and Arabs who lived in Palestine during this time period referred to the area as "Southern Syria" and not as "Palestine."

After World War I, the name "Palestine" was applied to the territory that was placed under British Mandate; this area included not only present-day Israel but also present-day Jordan.

Leading up to Israel's independence in 1948, it was common for the international press to label Jews, not Arabs, living in the mandate as Palestinians. It was not until years after Israeli independence that the Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip were called Palestinians. In fact, Arabs cannot even correctly pronounce the word Palestine in their native tongue, referring to area rather as“Filastin.”

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/palname.html