trogers Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Perhaps Monk Suthep has been blasting out David Bowie over the temple's tannoy system a tad too much: "We've got five years, stuck on my eyes We've got five years, what a surprise We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot We've got five years, that's all we've got" That last verse can be extended if you work to support it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 What a spineless behind licker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 What a spineless behind licker... Socrates would have been so proud - the use of insults to reason an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. how sweet is your koolaid and do you believe that other posters are unable to read ??? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pdrc-leader-warns-banks-rice-loans-government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 and what major issue has Mr P really solved? Airlines .. nope Fishing ... nope Human trafficking ... nope drugs ... nope Thai economy ... nope drunk driving ... nope human rights ... nope Has he actually done anything? it is same same in LOS That is what you would expect from the brain dead. Problems get built up for years over looked by the government and in some cases promoted by the government. Along comes a person who is just starting to deal with them and some nitwit says why have you not solved them all. He is not your fairy God Mother. Further more their is no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny. Sit back and watch the show instead of saying it is all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. One also need to understand why the law disallow a caretaker govt to put the country into more debts. When people have been lost so long in the Alice in Wonderland hole of the red shirt propaganda they do not understand simple things like that. The Governments inability to pay the rice farmers was part of the PTP reason for calling for the caretaker government so they would have a reason to not pay them to hide behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. One also need to understand why the law disallow a caretaker govt to put the country into more debts. When people have been lost so long in the Alice in Wonderland hole of the red shirt propaganda they do not understand simple things like that. The Governments inability to pay the rice farmers was part of the PTP reason for calling for the caretaker government so they would have a reason to not pay them to hide behind. you can't be serious.... oh, wait, your are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 They have actually done a lot in less than a year, far more good than the previous administration did in their term. They stopped the violence and killing. Put an end to the rice pledging scheme which it now has been revealed was costing the country around 300 billion a year. Paid the rice farmers who someone forgot to make allowance to pay when they dissolved parliament. Brought the rampant corruption within the scheme into the open and started prosecutions against the corrupt and negligent. Started selling off the deteriorating rice stockpiles. Restarted rice trading stalled by the hoarding of the scheme. Made a good and continuing start on reclaiming encroached land. Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. Working on cleaning up a corruption and slavery ridden fishing industry. Tackling human trafficking. Working on much needed reforms. Those are facts and the truth, although I know they must be difficult for you to accept, and there is much more. You should note that none of those things that the present administration has to tackle are of their own making but are instead all inherited from previous administrations. You should also note that should the amnesty bill have been passed all the corruption and crime associated with the above would have been forgiven up to the time that bill was passed. The country has the people who came out and protested the bill, including the reds, and those such as Suthep who became leaders to thank for saving it from allowing the corrupt to get away with their crime and keep their illegal wealth. Do you honestly in your hearts of hearts believe this balderdash you write everyday? I feel embarrassed for you, I really do When you have no answer attack the poster, would you like links to everything I have written ? I can provide them. he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. Another who is so gullible as to believe the red propaganda. But as a long time defender of the indefensible it is only to be expected of you. Waste of time posting the truth and links to things as they actually happened for the likes of you for you would never even look at them let alone believe your own eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. One also need to understand why the law disallow a caretaker govt to put the country into more debts. Yes, there are very good reasons why a caretaker government cannot incur national debt. The root cause of the farmers not being paid of course was that somehow when Yingluck dissolved parliament she and her ministers forgot to make money available to pay the farmers even though they knew full well that the debt was incurred and the farmers would have to be paid. Everything else came after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. how sweet is your koolaid and do you believe that other posters are unable to read ??? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pdrc-leader-warns-banks-rice-loans-government I like this one better : Anti-government demonstrators Wednesday stalled the electronic rice auction by cutting power supply at the Commerce Ministry forcing the auction to be put off to March 26. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/protesters-stall-rice-auction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Do you honestly in your hearts of hearts believe this balderdash you write everyday? I feel embarrassed for you, I really do When you have no answer attack the poster, would you like links to everything I have written ? I can provide them. he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. Another who is so gullible as to believe the red propaganda. But as a long time defender of the indefensible it is only to be expected of you. Waste of time posting the truth and links to things as they actually happened for the likes of you for you would never even look at them let alone believe your own eyes. you are absolutely hilarious... understanding why there was a coup doesn't need any 'red propaganda' understanding the arrest of the CIB, the lightning fast convictions for everything including LM doesn't need any 'red propaganda' understanding the orchestrated nature of the PDRC and Suthep's protests doesn't need any 'red propaganda' Keep it going... this is why some of us feel sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. how sweet is your koolaid and do you believe that other posters are unable to read ??? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pdrc-leader-warns-banks-rice-loans-government That doesn't change the fact that it was illegal for the caretaker government to get more loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. Another who is so gullible as to believe the red propaganda. But as a long time defender of the indefensible it is only to be expected of you. Waste of time posting the truth and links to things as they actually happened for the likes of you for you would never even look at them let alone believe your own eyes. you are absolutely hilarious... understanding why there was a coup doesn't need any 'red propaganda' understanding the arrest of the CIB, the lightning fast convictions for everything including LM doesn't need any 'red propaganda' understanding the orchestrated nature of the PDRC and Suthep's protests doesn't need any 'red propaganda' Keep it going... this is why some of us feel sorry for you. Someone who has the ability to use a computer and the internet should be able to do their own research and find out the truth rather than just blindly believing the red BS that spews from their propaganda machine, but in your case it would seem not. Carry on believing what you want to believe but don't expect others who know the truth to believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. Another who is so gullible as to believe the red propaganda. But as a long time defender of the indefensible it is only to be expected of you. Waste of time posting the truth and links to things as they actually happened for the likes of you for you would never even look at them let alone believe your own eyes. you are absolutely hilarious... understanding why there was a coup doesn't need any 'red propaganda' understanding the arrest of the CIB, the lightning fast convictions for everything including LM doesn't need any 'red propaganda' understanding the orchestrated nature of the PDRC and Suthep's protests doesn't need any 'red propaganda' Keep it going... this is why some of us feel sorry for you. Someone who has the ability to use a computer and the internet should be able to do their own research and find out the truth rather than just blindly believing the red BS that spews from their propaganda machine, but in your case it would seem not. Carry on believing what you want to believe but don't expect others who know the truth to believe you. really funny, really funny... see ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. how sweet is your koolaid and do you believe that other posters are unable to read ??? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pdrc-leader-warns-banks-rice-loans-government That doesn't change the fact that it was illegal for the caretaker government to get more loans. funny then, that the PDRC blocked elections which would have allowed a non-care-taker government to form... of funny that the banks were considering the loans anyway if they want the money to get in the hands of the farmers, 100 per cent and not illegally, through a normal transaction by a financial institute, then our bank is ready to consider." https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/thailands-rice-buying-policy-turns-020102252.html I think your missing the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 When you have no answer attack the poster, would you like links to everything I have written ? I can provide them. he's not attacking you, he is feeling sorry for you. When you start with : They stopped the violence and killing. then you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the orchestrated nature of the protests... Then you continue with : Paid the rice farmers who were not paid because banks which had previously been threatened by the PDRC to not support the government were simply "ordered" to make loans by the General, and then when you add this little gem... Bringing corrupt cops to justice including one high profile case even you must have heard of. which seriously makes me feel embarrassed for you too. Another who is so gullible as to believe the red propaganda. But as a long time defender of the indefensible it is only to be expected of you. Waste of time posting the truth and links to things as they actually happened for the likes of you for you would never even look at them let alone believe your own eyes. While I agree with you on many swallowing the red propaganda. I would like to add that not all swallowed it. Their was huge amounts of money involved in it. We all know that there are people with shall we say for lack of a better term no morals and could care less about any one or any thing as long as they make money off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. how sweet is your koolaid and do you believe that other posters are unable to read ??? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pdrc-leader-warns-banks-rice-loans-government That doesn't change the fact that it was illegal for the caretaker government to get more loans. funny then, that the PDRC blocked elections which would have allowed a non-care-taker government to form... of funny that the banks were considering the loans anyway if they want the money to get in the hands of the farmers, 100 per cent and not illegally, through a normal transaction by a financial institute, then our bank is ready to consider." https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/thailands-rice-buying-policy-turns-020102252.html I think your missing the point... Nothing funny about it when you are trying to bring unity to a nation divided by a criminal. It was obvious the PTP government had no intention of paying the money. Witness the recent conviction of three of their members in falsifying Government to Government rice deals. They had used corrupt means to drain the money into their own pockets. I wonder if the Government will ever trace back the owners of the newly built rice warehouses to store the unsalable rice in. It would be interesting to see if any red shirt backers on Thai Visa owned one. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Even the most ardent of Thaksin critics have to admit than this 'monk' is cut from the very same dirty cloth. This man has a very murky past and is neck deep in corruption. I found it hilarious that he was given the role as leader in the fight against corruption... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Unless you're fluent in Thai both oral and written, I just don't understand how anyone can state you've been "brainwashed" by whatever colour politics. Surely you would need to know what they were saying, and have a knowledge of the grass roots issues? I wonder how many of those pushing this line, actually are able to read lots of "forbidden/banned material" within Thailand, knowing that to do so whilst in the Kingdom, they're breaking the Laws of the land. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Even the most ardent of Thaksin critics have to admit than this 'monk' is cut from the very same dirty cloth. This man has a very murky past and is neck deep in corruption. I found it hilarious that he was given the role as leader in the fight against corruption... The original protests which my wife and her friends attended highlighted a genuine concern amongst many Thais and others regarding the actions of the PTP government and they were, at the start peaceful. As time went on there was violence. I don't know if Suthep was directly responsible for that but I doubt it. However he could certainly have spoken out against it more even if that was unlikely to prevent it so to that extent I would say he at least shares the blame. He defiantly showed a lack of interest in compromising in order to bring peace and in fact the only viable attempts were by Abhisit and Yingluck. If you're a monk then I don't suppose the lack of a job in politics for 5 years is much of a problem. He was great at rallying people to a peaceful protest but after that his contribution was largely negative and now his views are of little significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Even the most ardent of Thaksin critics have to admit than this 'monk' is cut from the very same dirty cloth. This man has a very murky past and is neck deep in corruption. I found it hilarious that he was given the role as leader in the fight against corruption... The original protests which my wife and her friends attended highlighted a genuine concern amongst many Thais and others regarding the actions of the PTP government and they were, at the start peaceful. As time went on there was violence. I don't know if Suthep was directly responsible for that but I doubt it. However he could certainly have spoken out against it more even if that was unlikely to prevent it so to that extent I would say he at least shares the blame. He defiantly showed a lack of interest in compromising in order to bring peace and in fact the only viable attempts were by Abhisit and Yingluck. If you're a monk then I don't suppose the lack of a job in politics for 5 years is much of a problem. He was great at rallying people to a peaceful protest but after that his contribution was largely negative and now his views are of little significance. The first of the demonstrations were harmless enough, mostly street rallies against the amnesty bill. Quite legitimate. They turned feral after about a week and some very unsavoury characters 'occupied' govt buidlings while others orchestrated violence and other unpleasantness ( including trying to spray the police with fecal matter pumped from a sewerage truck). At that point the vast majority of legitimate demonstrators went home leaving the ferals to do the bidding of Suthep and other organisers, including that awful monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinediscoking Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 funny then, that the PDRC blocked elections which would have allowed a non-care-taker government to form... The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. how sweet is your koolaid and do you believe that other posters are unable to read ??? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pdrc-leader-warns-banks-rice-loans-government That doesn't change the fact that it was illegal for the caretaker government to get more loans. of funny that the banks were considering the loans anyway if they want the money to get in the hands of the farmers, 100 per cent and not illegally, through a normal transaction by a financial institute, then our bank is ready to consider." https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/thailands-rice-buying-policy-turns-020102252.html I think your missing the point... Nothing funny about it when you are trying to bring unity to a nation divided by a criminal. It was obvious the PTP government had no intention of paying the money. Witness the recent conviction of three of their members in falsifying Government to Government rice deals. They had used corrupt means to drain the money into their own pockets. I wonder if the Government will ever trace back the owners of the newly built rice warehouses to store the unsalable rice in. It would be interesting to see if any red shirt backers on Thai Visa owned one. Just a thought. Nothing funny about trying to bring unity by blocking elections and then the General rolling in the tanks, soldiers and guns. If forced unity is "unity: you are delusional. There will allways be opposition in government with democracies and forcing PM's out over a police transfer or going on a cooking show is not the answer. Even the Courts could only get a judgement against Taksin on a "conflict of interest". Why are you not complaining about all the other government subsidies that contributed a larger debt than the rice program? I was no fan of Taksin but many thais still are as well as the PTP and I respect their vote. Coup's have never been the answer to strengthening democracy anywhere in the world except in Monk Sutep's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 That doesn't change the fact that it was illegal for the caretaker government to get more loans. funny then, that the PDRC blocked elections which would have allowed a non-care-taker government to form... of funny that the banks were considering the loans anyway if they want the money to get in the hands of the farmers, 100 per cent and not illegally, through a normal transaction by a financial institute, then our bank is ready to consider." https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/thailands-rice-buying-policy-turns-020102252.html I think your missing the point... Nothing funny about it when you are trying to bring unity to a nation divided by a criminal. It was obvious the PTP government had no intention of paying the money. Witness the recent conviction of three of their members in falsifying Government to Government rice deals. They had used corrupt means to drain the money into their own pockets. I wonder if the Government will ever trace back the owners of the newly built rice warehouses to store the unsalable rice in. It would be interesting to see if any red shirt backers on Thai Visa owned one. Just a thought. corruption is often an excuse to dispose of democracy. but corruption is never a good reason to dispose of democracy. I note that you and RNZ would think this to be the position of someone convinced by 'red propaganda'... I call it the position of a person who believes in the sovereign right of people to self-determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 funny then, that the PDRC blocked elections which would have allowed a non-care-taker government to form... The banks were not allowed to make loans to the government while they were in care-taker mode. The PDRC "threatened" them because the banks would be breaking the law if they loaned any money to the care-taker government. Once the general took power, the banks could legally loan money to the government. how sweet is your koolaid and do you believe that other posters are unable to read ??? http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pdrc-leader-warns-banks-rice-loans-government That doesn't change the fact that it was illegal for the caretaker government to get more loans. of funny that the banks were considering the loans anyway if they want the money to get in the hands of the farmers, 100 per cent and not illegally, through a normal transaction by a financial institute, then our bank is ready to consider." https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/thailands-rice-buying-policy-turns-020102252.html I think your missing the point... Nothing funny about it when you are trying to bring unity to a nation divided by a criminal. It was obvious the PTP government had no intention of paying the money. Witness the recent conviction of three of their members in falsifying Government to Government rice deals. They had used corrupt means to drain the money into their own pockets. I wonder if the Government will ever trace back the owners of the newly built rice warehouses to store the unsalable rice in. It would be interesting to see if any red shirt backers on Thai Visa owned one. Just a thought. Nothing funny about trying to bring unity by blocking elections and then the General rolling in the tanks, soldiers and guns. If forced unity is "unity: you are delusional. There will allways be opposition in government with democracies and forcing PM's out over a police transfer or going on a cooking show is not the answer. Even the Courts could only get a judgement against Taksin on a "conflict of interest". Why are you not complaining about all the other government subsidies that contributed a larger debt than the rice program? I was no fan of Taksin but many thais still are as well as the PTP and I respect their vote. Coup's have never been the answer to strengthening democracy anywhere in the world except in Monk Sutep's mind. politics is not about unity. neither are coups. lack of unity was neither the cause nor the reason for the 'intervention' ditto for corruption ... The current 'PM' and all his supporters talking about unity, reconciliation, and stopping corruption are just blowing hot air out their a$$e$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Even the most ardent of Thaksin critics have to admit than this 'monk' is cut from the very same dirty cloth. This man has a very murky past and is neck deep in corruption. I found it hilarious that he was given the role as leader in the fight against corruption... The original protests which my wife and her friends attended highlighted a genuine concern amongst many Thais and others regarding the actions of the PTP government and they were, at the start peaceful. As time went on there was violence. I don't know if Suthep was directly responsible for that but I doubt it. However he could certainly have spoken out against it more even if that was unlikely to prevent it so to that extent I would say he at least shares the blame. He defiantly showed a lack of interest in compromising in order to bring peace and in fact the only viable attempts were by Abhisit and Yingluck. If you're a monk then I don't suppose the lack of a job in politics for 5 years is much of a problem. He was great at rallying people to a peaceful protest but after that his contribution was largely negative and now his views are of little significance. I agree about the people attending the protests feeling genuinely committed... I had a friend who, with her friends, went often... They all knew that Suthep was corrupt, but that did not stop them from protesting against the PTP.... They seemed to be representative of other people I saw supporting the PDRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick167 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Oh Pleeze...anything that will make the local thai economy worsen is good by me. There are lots of properties and businesses that me and my better half are aiming to acquire. Plus hopefully when the situation worsens, there will be more locals to exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 A bunch of nonsense posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Even the most ardent of Thaksin critics have to admit than this 'monk' is cut from the very same dirty cloth. This man has a very murky past and is neck deep in corruption. I found it hilarious that he was given the role as leader in the fight against corruption... The original protests which my wife and her friends attended highlighted a genuine concern amongst many Thais and others regarding the actions of the PTP government and they were, at the start peaceful. As time went on there was violence. I don't know if Suthep was directly responsible for that but I doubt it. However he could certainly have spoken out against it more even if that was unlikely to prevent it so to that extent I would say he at least shares the blame. He defiantly showed a lack of interest in compromising in order to bring peace and in fact the only viable attempts were by Abhisit and Yingluck. If you're a monk then I don't suppose the lack of a job in politics for 5 years is much of a problem. He was great at rallying people to a peaceful protest but after that his contribution was largely negative and now his views are of little significance. The first of the demonstrations were harmless enough, mostly street rallies against the amnesty bill. Quite legitimate. They turned feral after about a week and some very unsavoury characters 'occupied' govt buidlings while others orchestrated violence and other unpleasantness ( including trying to spray the police with fecal matter pumped from a sewerage truck). At that point the vast majority of legitimate demonstrators went home leaving the ferals to do the bidding of Suthep and other organisers, including that awful monk. spot on post AGAIN well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Laurel and Hardy comes to mind" Well this is another fine mess you gotten us into" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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