Johnny Depp's dogs face death in Australia

[chooka]

impulse

I do agree with you. I think that the Minister could have remembered that he was a representative of a country and not used such vulgar language to the press nor made such a scandal. Would this have got into the press at all, if it had been Mr. Joe Smith. It could be also that Depp genuinely didn't know about the regulations. Many countries in Europe don't have these regulations.

What exactly was the VULVA language. The word bugger is Hardly vulgar and is used in Australia by all. The term bugger off is actually a polite way to tell someone to leave or go away in Australia.

No no, yanks do not understand terms like this. Some of them are known to be seriously illiterate. The way they talk (THAT accent--- nauseatingly disgusting). That's just one. Then there are the stupid high-fiving and backslapping you see them often do. And the uncultured way they behave and dress themselves in places like Paris, Tokyo etc. You can spot them from miles away. An eyesore.

Lol, what a bunch of miserable little tw@@tts. . . BTW, tw@@tts is a polite way of saying p@@S$y in the US.

The dogs will be fine. US will let them back in. I know that is a huge disappoint to some of the finer specimens on here, but the US isn't a bunch of drama queens and actually like animals. Lol, heaven forbid if they try and put Johnny Depp's dogs down in the US. We will have all of the animal rights groups, the US Justice department and that crazy fat whaler dude that has been on the lamb all going nuts if anyone tried to hurt some poor little doggies.

A bit beside myself that some can be so miserable with their own pathetic existences that they would actually want to see a bad outcome here or see those poor doggies hurt. Wow. Sad stuff to be so pathetic.

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both. He wasnt double parked or caught speaking on his mobile phone whilst driving. He may very well end up with a criminal record and the authorities to date have been extremely lenient with him.

A US embassy spokeswoman said US residents were encouraged to do their research before travelling abroad.

"The US department of state advises American citizens travelling to Australia that Australian customs authorities enforce very strict regulations concerning the importation from all countries of items such as agricultural and wood products, as well as very strict quarantine standards for other products, animals and pets," the spokeswoman said.

Edited May 15, 2015 by chooka

[impulse]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

[samran]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Then why the need to smuggle? Read earlier than had he done it right they could have been in quarantine for 10 days and all would have been fine.

[harrry]

He should never have been allowed to leave. Being a pirate is enough reason to detain him. Failing to declare imports, signing a false declaration as well as the import of the animals is criminal and he should have been arrested. His dogs however should have been allowed to leave for the mandatory period of quaranteen outside australia.

[chooka]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Maybe a pissy little offence to an American, but Australians take thier agricultural industry and wildlife very seriously. We don't know what deseases these dogs were carrying because he didnt go through the correct channels, he smuggled them in and that is the serious criminal offence. Just because he is an American actor doesn't lessen the offence. Offences in Australia don't have degrees of seriousness depending on your country of origin or social standing.

The offence also doesn't depend on the quantity or type of animal. There is a law and it must be obeyed by everyone living in and entering the country. The law applies to everyone. His pure bred dogs being hand fed at meal times are no more important or exempt than Bill Smith's junk yard mongrel dog. The argument that it is a pissy offence because the dogs owners are rich socialites and a serious offence for the poor is silly.

[lostoday]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Maybe a pissy little offence to an American, but Australians take thier agricultural industry and wildlife very seriously. We don't know what deseases these dogs were carrying because he didnt go through the correct channels, he smuggled them in and that is the serious criminal offence. Just because he is an American actor doesn't lessen the offence. Offences in Australia don't have degrees of seriousness depending on your country of origin or social standing.

The offence also doesn't depend on the quantity or type of animal. There is a law and it must be obeyed by everyone living in and entering the country. The law applies to everyone. His pure bred dogs being hand fed at meal times are no more important or exempt than Bill Smith's junk yard mongrel dog. The argument that it is a pissy offence because the dogs owners are rich socialites and a serious offence for the poor is silly.

I wonder how much time and money Australia has spent with this obviously non harmful event while important matters for immigration and agriculture go unfunded.

I get the anti Yank bias so prevalent down under but it seems rather like a silly little thing to spend time and money on.

You can call kitty a lion as many times as you want but it still remains a kitty.

What do you figure the total invested so far? How many men and man hours went into snooping on Depp while the terrorists flood in on ships and planes elsewhere? How many man hours is the Aussie government spending watching two Yorkshire terriers?

[impulse]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Maybe a pissy little offence to an American, but Australians take thier agricultural industry and wildlife very seriously. We don't know what deseases these dogs were carrying because he didnt go through the correct channels, he smuggled them in and that is the serious criminal offence. Just because he is an American actor doesn't lessen the offence. Offences in Australia don't have degrees of seriousness depending on your country of origin or social standing.

The offence also doesn't depend on the quantity or type of animal. There is a law and it must be obeyed by everyone living in and entering the country. The law applies to everyone. His pure bred dogs being hand fed at meal times are no more important or exempt than Bill Smith's junk yard mongrel dog. The argument that it is a pissy offence because the dogs owners are rich socialites and a serious offence for the poor is silly.

Here's just a partial list of all the stuff you can get fined up to $66,000 and jailed for up to 10 years if you don't declare them on arrival in Oz- under the very same Biosecurity law.. Some pretty dangerous items here...

• airline food and snacks
• commercially prepared, cooked and raw food and ingredients
• dried fruit and vegetables
• instant noodles and rice
• packaged meals
• herbs and spices
• herbal and traditional medicines, remedies, tonics and herbal teas
• snack foods
• infant formula
• dairy products (fresh and powdered) including milk, cheese and ‘non-dairy’ creamers
• cheese—must be commercially prepared and packaged and originate from countries free from foot and mouth disease
• all whole, dried and powdered eggs, and egg products, such as mayonnaise
• egg products including noodles and pasta that are not commercially manufactured
• meat including fresh, dried, frozen, cooked, smoked, salted or preserved—from all animal species
• sausages, salami and sliced meats
• fish and other seafood products
• cereal grains, popping corn, raw nuts, pinecones, birdseed, seeds, and ornaments including seeds
• all fresh and frozen fruit and vegetables
• tea containing seeds, fruit skin (for example citrus and apple peel) and fruit pieces
• remedies and medicines containing herbs, seeds, bark, fungi and dried plant material
• fresh or dried flower arrangements and potpourri
• dried herbs or leaves
• handicrafts—including wreaths and Christmas decorations—containing seeds, raw nuts, corn, pinecones, grapevines, bark, moss, straw or other plant material
• wooden items
• all mammals, birds, birds’ eggs and nests, fish, reptiles, amphibians and insects
• feathers, bones, horns, tusks, wool and animal hair
• skins, hides and furs
• stuffed animals and birds (some may be prohibited under endangered species laws)
• shells and coral (including jewellery and souvenirs)
• bee products including honey, beeswax and honeycomb
• used animal equipment including veterinary equipment and medicines, shearing or meat trade tools, saddlery and tack and animal or bird cages
• pet food - including canned or products and raw-hide chews
• rawhide articles and handicrafts including drums
• biological specimens including tissue culture
• craft and hobby lines made from animal or plant material
• used sporting and camping equipment including tents, footwear, hiking boots, golf equipment and bicycles (need to be checked to ensure they are clean and free from soil contamination)
• used freshwater watercraft or fishing equipment including rods and nets, waders, kayaks, paddles and life jackets

http://www.agriculture.gov.au/travelling/to-australia/arriving-in-australia-declare-it

Sure, fine the guy. Make it a whopper. But don't make him out to be Typhoid Mary, and don't threaten to kill his pets.

BTW, you did declare your leather shoes and your bees wax lip balm and your puka shell necklace last time you entered, right? Because it would be a serious breach of Australian law if you didn't. Or maybe just a pissy little violation.

Edited May 15, 2015 by impulse

[samran]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Maybe a pissy little offence to an American, but Australians take thier agricultural industry and wildlife very seriously. We don't know what deseases these dogs were carrying because he didnt go through the correct channels, he smuggled them in and that is the serious criminal offence. Just because he is an American actor doesn't lessen the offence. Offences in Australia don't have degrees of seriousness depending on your country of origin or social standing.

The offence also doesn't depend on the quantity or type of animal. There is a law and it must be obeyed by everyone living in and entering the country. The law applies to everyone. His pure bred dogs being hand fed at meal times are no more important or exempt than Bill Smith's junk yard mongrel dog. The argument that it is a pissy offence because the dogs owners are rich socialites and a serious offence for the poor is silly.

Here's just a partial list of all the stuff you can get fined up to $66,000 and jailed for up to 10 years if you don't declare them on arrival in Oz- under the very same Biosecurity law.. Some pretty dangerous items here...

• airline food and snacks
• commercially prepared, cooked and raw food and ingredients
• dried fruit and vegetables
• instant noodles and rice
• packaged meals
• herbs and spices
• herbal and traditional medicines, remedies, tonics and herbal teas
• snack foods
• infant formula
• dairy products (fresh and powdered) including milk, cheese and non-dairy creamers
• cheesemust be commercially prepared and packaged and originate from countries free from foot and mouth disease
• all whole, dried and powdered eggs, and egg products, such as mayonnaise
• egg products including noodles and pasta that are not commercially manufactured
• meat including fresh, dried, frozen, cooked, smoked, salted or preservedfrom all animal species
• sausages, salami and sliced meats
• fish and other seafood products
• cereal grains, popping corn, raw nuts, pinecones, birdseed, seeds, and ornaments including seeds
• all fresh and frozen fruit and vegetables
• tea containing seeds, fruit skin (for example citrus and apple peel) and fruit pieces
• remedies and medicines containing herbs, seeds, bark, fungi and dried plant material
• fresh or dried flower arrangements and potpourri
• dried herbs or leaves
• handicraftsincluding wreaths and Christmas decorationscontaining seeds, raw nuts, corn, pinecones, grapevines, bark, moss, straw or other plant material
• wooden items
• all mammals, birds, birds eggs and nests, fish, reptiles, amphibians and insects
• feathers, bones, horns, tusks, wool and animal hair
• skins, hides and furs
• stuffed animals and birds (some may be prohibited under endangered species laws)
• shells and coral (including jewellery and souvenirs)
• bee products including honey, beeswax and honeycomb
• used animal equipment including veterinary equipment and medicines, shearing or meat trade tools, saddlery and tack and animal or bird cages
• pet food - including canned or products and raw-hide chews
• rawhide articles and handicrafts including drums
• biological specimens including tissue culture
• craft and hobby lines made from animal or plant material
• used sporting and camping equipment including tents, footwear, hiking boots, golf equipment and bicycles (need to be checked to ensure they are clean and free from soil contamination)
• used freshwater watercraft or fishing equipment including rods and nets, waders, kayaks, paddles and life jackets

http://www.agriculture.gov.au/travelling/to-australia/arriving-in-australia-declare-it

Sure, fine the guy. Make it a whopper. But don't make him out to be Typhoid Mary, and don't threaten to kill his pets.

BTW, you did declare your leather shoes and your bees wax lip balm and your puka shell necklace last time you entered, right? Because it would be a serious breach of Australian law if you didn't. Or maybe just a pissy little violation.

You declare it. Doesn't mean you can't take it in. People for the most part in Australia take it seriously as we know a lot is riding on it and we know how 12 rabbits, a couple of blackberry plants and a few experimental cane toads have caused havoc for generations.

[chooka]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Maybe a pissy little offence to an American, but Australians take thier agricultural industry and wildlife very seriously. We don't know what deseases these dogs were carrying because he didnt go through the correct channels, he smuggled them in and that is the serious criminal offence. Just because he is an American actor doesn't lessen the offence. Offences in Australia don't have degrees of seriousness depending on your country of origin or social standing.

The offence also doesn't depend on the quantity or type of animal. There is a law and it must be obeyed by everyone living in and entering the country. The law applies to everyone. His pure bred dogs being hand fed at meal times are no more important or exempt than Bill Smith's junk yard mongrel dog. The argument that it is a pissy offence because the dogs owners are rich socialites and a serious offence for the poor is silly.

Here's just a partial list of all the stuff you can get fined up to $66,000 and jailed for up to 10 years if you don't declare them on arrival in Oz- under the very same Biosecurity law.. Some pretty dangerous items here...

• airline food and snacks
• commercially prepared, cooked and raw food and ingredients
• dried fruit and vegetables
• instant noodles and rice
• packaged meals
• herbs and spices
• herbal and traditional medicines, remedies, tonics and herbal teas
• snack foods
• infant formula
• dairy products (fresh and powdered) including milk, cheese and non-dairy creamers
• cheesemust be commercially prepared and packaged and originate from countries free from foot and mouth disease
• all whole, dried and powdered eggs, and egg products, such as mayonnaise
• egg products including noodles and pasta that are not commercially manufactured
• meat including fresh, dried, frozen, cooked, smoked, salted or preservedfrom all animal species
• sausages, salami and sliced meats
• fish and other seafood products
• cereal grains, popping corn, raw nuts, pinecones, birdseed, seeds, and ornaments including seeds
• all fresh and frozen fruit and vegetables
• tea containing seeds, fruit skin (for example citrus and apple peel) and fruit pieces
• remedies and medicines containing herbs, seeds, bark, fungi and dried plant material
• fresh or dried flower arrangements and potpourri
• dried herbs or leaves
• handicraftsincluding wreaths and Christmas decorationscontaining seeds, raw nuts, corn, pinecones, grapevines, bark, moss, straw or other plant material
• wooden items
• all mammals, birds, birds eggs and nests, fish, reptiles, amphibians and insects
• feathers, bones, horns, tusks, wool and animal hair
• skins, hides and furs
• stuffed animals and birds (some may be prohibited under endangered species laws)
• shells and coral (including jewellery and souvenirs)
• bee products including honey, beeswax and honeycomb
• used animal equipment including veterinary equipment and medicines, shearing or meat trade tools, saddlery and tack and animal or bird cages
• pet food - including canned or products and raw-hide chews
• rawhide articles and handicrafts including drums
• biological specimens including tissue culture
• craft and hobby lines made from animal or plant material
• used sporting and camping equipment including tents, footwear, hiking boots, golf equipment and bicycles (need to be checked to ensure they are clean and free from soil contamination)
• used freshwater watercraft or fishing equipment including rods and nets, waders, kayaks, paddles and life jackets

http://www.agriculture.gov.au/travelling/to-australia/arriving-in-australia-declare-it

Sure, fine the guy. Make it a whopper. But don't make him out to be Typhoid Mary, and don't threaten to kill his pets.

BTW, you did declare your leather shoes and your bees wax lip balm and your puka shell necklace last time you entered, right? Because it would be a serious breach of Australian law if you didn't. Or maybe just a pissy little violation.

You declare it. Doesn't mean you can't take it in. People for the most part in Australia take it seriously as we know a lot is riding on it and we know how 12 rabbits, a couple of blackberry plants and a few experimental cane toads have caused havoc for generations.

exactly, declare and you don't commit an offence and can get most on that list through. Smuggle or try to smuggle and you comitt a serious offence which Depp did. Get caught and you loose what you tried to smuggle and face the law.

[Neurath]

Planned, knowing and flagrant violation of another country's bio-security laws demands immediate application of the full force of the law. He knew the consequences of his actions and can hardly complain now. Or his personal assistant did. Whatever. Anyway, like another famous dog of a very similar breed, there's no telling what these canines have had their snouts stuck right up into or what their tongues have been licking and lapping.

[Prbkk]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Correct but this law operates without fear or favour and the DYKWIA attitude doesn't go far with customs and nor should it. Other countries might tolerate the arrogance.

[impulse]

exactly, declare and you don't commit an offence and can get most on that list through. Smuggle or try to smuggle and you comitt a serious offence which Depp did. Get caught and you loose what you tried to smuggle and face the law.

Such linear thinkers. You’re so dead set on putting the American (rich, famous and good looking American, no less) in his place that you can’t see the opportunity.

Here you have a guy with a pretty good reputation for public service and behavior, discretion over hundreds (if not thousands) of current and future jobs, a face recognized by everyone on the planet who has electricity, and the First Lady and God knows who else on speed dial.

You have him by the short and curlies. And the best plan your guy can come up with is, “kill the dogs”.

So you’d rather make an enemy of the guy and go down in the court of world opinion as the nation that killed Johnny Depp’s adorable dogs, kiss away any chance his next movie will bring jobs to Oz, risk shutting down current filming, and alienate millions of his fans all over the world.

Great plan. Winners on all sides.

I’m not defending what he did. It was wrong. He knows it was wrong. But it doesn’t rise to the level of bioterrorism. And whatever harm was going to be done- has already been done.

I’d call the guy in, fine him and “cajole” him to do some public service announcements in return for decent treatment and amnesty for him, his wife, his entourage and his critters. Maybe even some no-charge product placements for Oz made goods or tourism in his next movies. And that's just spitballing. A PR expert could get miles and miles of traction out of this.

But you guys go ahead and slap the famous Yank. I hope it feels good. ‘Cause it’s going to cost you if you do.

Edited May 15, 2015 by impulse

[konying]

This is not just a pissy little summary offence, it is a serious criminal offence in Australia which carries a fine of up to 60K, up to 10 yrs imprisonment or both.

Yes, it is a pissy little offense. He didn't smuggle a crate of plague infected rats, or a boatload of cattle with mad cow disease.

It's 2 tiny dogs that probably get better health care than you or I do.

Then why the need to smuggle? Read earlier than had he done it right they could have been in quarantine for 10 days and all would have been fine.

No such a thing as 10 days. Minimum 3 months

[Linky]

exactly, declare and you don't commit an offence and can get most on that list through. Smuggle or try to smuggle and you comitt a serious offence which Depp did. Get caught and you loose what you tried to smuggle and face the law.

Such linear thinkers. Youre so dead set on putting the American (rich, famous and good looking American, no less) in his place that you cant see the opportunity.

Here you have a guy with a pretty good reputation for public service and behavior, discretion over hundreds (if not thousands) of current and future jobs, a face recognized by everyone on the planet who has electricity, and the First Lady and God knows who else on speed dial.

You have him by the short and curlies. And the best plan your guy can come up with is, kill the dogs.

So youd rather make an enemy of the guy and go down in the court of world opinion as the nation that killed Johnny Depps adorable dogs, kiss away any chance his next movie will bring jobs to Oz, risk shutting down current filming, and alienate millions of his fans all over the world.

Great plan. Winners on all sides.

Im not defending what he did. It was wrong. He knows it was wrong. But it doesnt rise to the level of bioterrorism. And whatever harm was going to be done- has already been done.

Id call the guy in, fine him and cajole him to do some public service announcements in return for decent treatment and amnesty for him, his wife, his entourage and his critters. Maybe even some no-charge product placements for Oz made goods or tourism in his next movies. And that's just spitballing. A PR expert could get miles and miles of traction out of this.

But you guys go ahead and slap the famous Yank. I hope it feels good. Cause its going to cost you if you do.

Rubbish, it matters not where he is from. it matters not to Aussies that thousands may lose jobs. The most important thing is protection of the country from disease. His mutts can quite easily cause a lot more damage than a jobs losses and lost revenue from visitors etc.

His dogs dont have to die, all he has to do is get them out of Oz. doesnt mean he himself has to go. But thats up to him. Aussies in general wont care if he wants to come back or not, as this is a very serious matter for Aussies.

[Neurath]

exactly, declare and you don't commit an offence and can get most on that list through. Smuggle or try to smuggle and you comitt a serious offence which Depp did. Get caught and you loose what you tried to smuggle and face the law.

Such linear thinkers. You’re so dead set on putting the American (rich, famous and good looking American, no less) in his place that you can’t see the opportunity.

Here you have a guy with a pretty good reputation for public service and behavior, discretion over hundreds (if not thousands) of current and future jobs, a face recognized by everyone on the planet who has electricity, and the First Lady and God knows who else on speed dial.

You have him by the short and curlies. And the best plan your guy can come up with is, “kill the dogs”.

So you’d rather make an enemy of the guy and go down in the court of world opinion as the nation that killed Johnny Depp’s adorable dogs, kiss away any chance his next movie will bring jobs to Oz, risk shutting down current filming, and alienate millions of his fans all over the world.

Great plan. Winners on all sides.

I’m not defending what he did. It was wrong. He knows it was wrong. But it doesn’t rise to the level of bioterrorism. And whatever harm was going to be done- has already been done.

I’d call the guy in, fine him and “cajole” him to do some public service announcements in return for decent treatment and amnesty for him, his wife, his entourage and his critters. Maybe even some no-charge product placements for Oz made goods or tourism in his next movies. And that's just spitballing. A PR expert could get miles and miles of traction out of this.

But you guys go ahead and slap the famous Yank. I hope it feels good. ‘Cause it’s going to cost you if you do.

Australian's won't be too concerned if Mordechai Part II doesn't get filmed there - or anywhere else for that matter. I suppose some might grieve over another installment of The lone Ranger - but that's there derangement to from which to find Transcendence. Those are three real dogs that should have been put down. Hell, all three just about rise to the level of bio-terrorism.

[impulse]

Australian's won't be too concerned if Mordechai Part II doesn't get filmed there - or anywhere else for that matter. I suppose some might grieve over another installment of The lone Ranger - but that's there derangement to from which to find Transcendence. Those are three real dogs that should have been put down. Hell, all three just about rise to the level of bio-terrorism.

Gotta agree on the Lone Ranger. Even he couldn't save it. I haven't seen the others. But lots of people still got their paychecks...

BTW, I should make it clear that if it were Lindsay Lohan or Justin Beiber in trouble down under, I'd volunteer to lead the lynch mob. I can't think of a single favorable outcome with those 2.

Edited May 15, 2015 by impulse

[Publicus]

Given that Australia can find it within the laws to issue an export certificate to the terriers, perhaps the dog and farms officer Barnaby Joyce might explain what all of this is about.

If the terriers can be certified as safe to leave Australia, then the big stink of the terriers being in Oz amounts to little more than certain technicalities.

Mr Joyce said the dogs could still be at risk because they may not be allowed into the US. However, officials later clarified that Australia would issue Boo and Pistol with an export certificate which was likely to be accepted by the US because Australia is considered free of rabies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

The dogged pursuit of Johnny Depp may continue however as Mr Joyce says he wants to send an investigator to question Depp concerning how the terriers entered the country. If Depp is flying back to the US with the terriers that might be difficult to do not to mention cost Oz taxpayers some bucks.

If the dogged government of Oz want to interview Depp if he returns to Oz to complete filming, that may jeopardize completion of the movie there.

The guyz in Canberra certainly do follow linear and rigid straightjacket thinking and attitudes, as do many of their subject citizens.

Can't believe these people running around flapping their arms to "Kill the dogs, kill the dogs!!"

Kyle Sandilands, a controversial radio host, told Mr Joyce in a fiery interview: "You sound like an absolute clown telling the guy to b----- off back to Hollywood or we'll kill his dogs. You sound like an idiot. You're a government minister, not some idiot off the street mouthing off to a news camera. Have some decency."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

[Neurath]

Australian's won't be too concerned if Mordechai Part II doesn't get filmed there - or anywhere else for that matter. I suppose some might grieve over another installment of The lone Ranger - but that's there derangement to from which to find Transcendence. Those are three real dogs that should have been put down. Hell, all three just about rise to the level of bio-terrorism.

Gotta agree on the Lone Ranger. Even he couldn't save it. I haven't seen the others. But lots of people still got their paychecks...

BTW, I should make it clear that if it were Lindsay Lohan or Justin Beiber in trouble down under, I'd volunteer to lead the lynch mob. I can't think of a single favorable outcome with those 2.

Let the punishment fit the crime and you're on to something here: Mr. Depp's punishment for violating Australia's bio-security laws should be one week's domicile with each of Justin Beiber and Lindsay Lohan. He will be instructed to submit to acting lessons from Ms. Lohan and dance lessons from Mr. Beiber. He will come out a changed and chastened man-woman-creature with nary a thought of dog smuggling. Unfortunately, its just this sort of thing (so they say) that was instrumental in causing Mordecai to be made. Also, some say that the profligate volume and variety of drugs ingested by Mr. Depp whilst he was a Hunter S. Thompson groupy are now taking their toll on his (increasingly erratic) judgement. Yea, it's dog smuggling now, but what next?

[Linky]

Australian's won't be too concerned if Mordechai Part II doesn't get filmed there - or anywhere else for that matter. I suppose some might grieve over another installment of The lone Ranger - but that's there derangement to from which to find Transcendence. Those are three real dogs that should have been put down. Hell, all three just about rise to the level of bio-terrorism.

Gotta agree on the Lone Ranger. Even he couldn't save it. I haven't seen the others. But lots of people still got their paychecks...

BTW, I should make it clear that if it were Lindsay Lohan or Justin Beiber in trouble down under, I'd volunteer to lead the lynch mob. I can't think of a single favorable outcome with those 2.

Let the punishment fit the crime and you're on to something here: Mr. Depp's punishment for violating Australia's bio-security laws should be one week's domicile with each of Justin Beiber and Lindsay Lohan. He will be instructed to submit to acting lessons from Ms. Lohan and dance lessons from Mr. Beiber. He will come out a changed and chastened man-woman-creature with nary a thought of dog smuggling. Unfortunately, its just this sort of thing (so they say) that was instrumental in causing Mordecai to be made. Also, some say that the profligate volume and variety of drugs ingested by Mr. Depp whilst he was a Hunter S. Thompson groupy are now taking their toll on his (increasingly erratic) judgement. Yea, it's dog smuggling now, but what next?

I would not lose sleep if both those two where put down and their dogs live.

[Linky]

Given that Australia can find it within the laws to issue an export certificate to the terriers, perhaps the dog and farms officer Barnaby Joyce might explain what all of this is about.

If the terriers can be certified as safe to leave Australia, then the big stink of the terriers being in Oz amounts to little more than certain technicalities.

Mr Joyce said the dogs could still be at risk because they may not be allowed into the US. However, officials later clarified that Australia would issue Boo and Pistol with an export certificate which was likely to be accepted by the US because Australia is considered free of rabies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

The dogged pursuit of Johnny Depp may continue however as Mr Joyce says he wants to send an investigator to question Depp concerning how the terriers entered the country. If Depp is flying back to the US with the terriers that might be difficult to do not to mention cost Oz taxpayers some bucks.

If the dogged government of Oz want to interview Depp if he returns to Oz to complete filming, that may jeopardize completion of the movie there.

The guyz in Canberra certainly do follow linear and rigid straightjacket thinking and attitudes, as do many of their subject citizens.

Can't believe these people running around flapping their arms to "Kill the dogs, kill the dogs!!"

Kyle Sandilands, a controversial radio host, told Mr Joyce in a fiery interview: "You sound like an absolute clown telling the guy to b----- off back to Hollywood or we'll kill his dogs. You sound like an idiot. You're a government minister, not some idiot off the street mouthing off to a news camera. Have some decency."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

Pleasssse do not quote Kyle Sandilands, he is a first class muppet and an absolute d***head.

As one person put it...Sandilands calling Joyce an idiot is like Fred Flinstone calling Barney Rubble a caveman.

[Neurath]

Given that Australia can find it within the laws to issue an export certificate to the terriers, perhaps the dog and farms officer Barnaby Joyce might explain what all of this is about.

If the terriers can be certified as safe to leave Australia, then the big stink of the terriers being in Oz amounts to little more than certain technicalities.

Mr Joyce said the dogs could still be at risk because they may not be allowed into the US. However, officials later clarified that Australia would issue Boo and Pistol with an export certificate which was likely to be accepted by the US because Australia is considered free of rabies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

The dogged pursuit of Johnny Depp may continue however as Mr Joyce says he wants to send an investigator to question Depp concerning how the terriers entered the country. If Depp is flying back to the US with the terriers that might be difficult to do not to mention cost Oz taxpayers some bucks.

If the dogged government of Oz want to interview Depp if he returns to Oz to complete filming, that may jeopardize completion of the movie there.

The guyz in Canberra certainly do follow linear and rigid straightjacket thinking and attitudes, as do many of their subject citizens.

Can't believe these people running around flapping their arms to "Kill the dogs, kill the dogs!!"

Kyle Sandilands, a controversial radio host, told Mr Joyce in a fiery interview: "You sound like an absolute clown telling the guy to b----- off back to Hollywood or we'll kill his dogs. You sound like an idiot. You're a government minister, not some idiot off the street mouthing off to a news camera. Have some decency."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

Kill the dogs, kill the dogs, put them on boat and tow them out to sea - This is our country and we'll decide who can and who can't come to it - we have a procedure for letting dogs in the country and que jumpers won't be tolerated - what sort of dogs are these anyway? Don't look like traditional Australian dogs and probably won't integrate well - looks to me like Depp'd dogs are on the bloody doll, haven't done a decent day's work in their bloody life, not like a bloody Australian Sheep dog does - nah, don't like these bloody foreign dogs - send them back to their own country. F***ing coddled foreign little dogs.

[Neurath]

Australian's won't be too concerned if Mordechai Part II doesn't get filmed there - or anywhere else for that matter. I suppose some might grieve over another installment of The lone Ranger - but that's there derangement to from which to find Transcendence. Those are three real dogs that should have been put down. Hell, all three just about rise to the level of bio-terrorism.

Gotta agree on the Lone Ranger. Even he couldn't save it. I haven't seen the others. But lots of people still got their paychecks...

BTW, I should make it clear that if it were Lindsay Lohan or Justin Beiber in trouble down under, I'd volunteer to lead the lynch mob. I can't think of a single favorable outcome with those 2.

Let the punishment fit the crime and you're on to something here: Mr. Depp's punishment for violating Australia's bio-security laws should be one week's domicile with each of Justin Beiber and Lindsay Lohan. He will be instructed to submit to acting lessons from Ms. Lohan and dance lessons from Mr. Beiber. He will come out a changed and chastened man-woman-creature with nary a thought of dog smuggling. Unfortunately, its just this sort of thing (so they say) that was instrumental in causing Mordecai to be made. Also, some say that the profligate volume and variety of drugs ingested by Mr. Depp whilst he was a Hunter S. Thompson groupy are now taking their toll on his (increasingly erratic) judgement. Yea, it's dog smuggling now, but what next?

I would not lose sleep if both those two where put down and their dogs live.

Ah yes, but just how would you tell who was still alive???

[impulse]

Australian's won't be too concerned if Mordechai Part II doesn't get filmed there - or anywhere else for that matter. I suppose some might grieve over another installment of The lone Ranger - but that's there derangement to from which to find Transcendence. Those are three real dogs that should have been put down. Hell, all three just about rise to the level of bio-terrorism.

Gotta agree on the Lone Ranger. Even he couldn't save it. I haven't seen the others. But lots of people still got their paychecks...

BTW, I should make it clear that if it were Lindsay Lohan or Justin Beiber in trouble down under, I'd volunteer to lead the lynch mob. I can't think of a single favorable outcome with those 2.

Let the punishment fit the crime and you're on to something here: Mr. Depp's punishment for violating Australia's bio-security laws should be one week's domicile with each of Justin Beiber and Lindsay Lohan.

I ran that by Mr Depp, and he said, "Shoot me. Shoot me now."

[samran]

exactly, declare and you don't commit an offence and can get most on that list through. Smuggle or try to smuggle and you comitt a serious offence which Depp did. Get caught and you loose what you tried to smuggle and face the law.

Such linear thinkers. Youre so dead set on putting the American (rich, famous and good looking American, no less) in his place that you cant see the opportunity.

Here you have a guy with a pretty good reputation for public service and behavior, discretion over hundreds (if not thousands) of current and future jobs, a face recognized by everyone on the planet who has electricity, and the First Lady and God knows who else on speed dial.

You have him by the short and curlies. And the best plan your guy can come up with is, kill the dogs.

So youd rather make an enemy of the guy and go down in the court of world opinion as the nation that killed Johnny Depps adorable dogs, kiss away any chance his next movie will bring jobs to Oz, risk shutting down current filming, and alienate millions of his fans all over the world.

Great plan. Winners on all sides.

Im not defending what he did. It was wrong. He knows it was wrong. But it doesnt rise to the level of bioterrorism. And whatever harm was going to be done- has already been done.

Id call the guy in, fine him and cajole him to do some public service announcements in return for decent treatment and amnesty for him, his wife, his entourage and his critters. Maybe even some no-charge product placements for Oz made goods or tourism in his next movies. And that's just spitballing. A PR expert could get miles and miles of traction out of this.

But you guys go ahead and slap the famous Yank. I hope it feels good. Cause its going to cost you if you do.

You are incorrect in the source of my dislike. Not that he is an American, not that he is a Hollywood star. I believe owners of sihtty little dogs deserve no sympathy. Still, he broke some serious rules and while you people are blasé about them they are there for very good reason.

Far from me to defend Barnaby. He is a loudmouth unreconstructed agrarian socialist.

I'm sure he could have ordered the SAS to take out the dogs and cause we are in Queensland we could have had then die from licking too many feral came toads or have them eaten by a rouge croc. Hollywood would have lapped it up.

Edited May 15, 2015 by samran

[samran]

Pretty funny standup by Trevor Noah on coming to Australia.

All good but watch from about 4 mins in the difference between immigtation and quarantine.

[Publicus]

Given that Australia can find it within the laws to issue an export certificate to the terriers, perhaps the dog and farms officer Barnaby Joyce might explain what all of this is about.

If the terriers can be certified as safe to leave Australia, then the big stink of the terriers being in Oz amounts to little more than certain technicalities.

Mr Joyce said the dogs could still be at risk because they may not be allowed into the US. However, officials later clarified that Australia would issue Boo and Pistol with an export certificate which was likely to be accepted by the US because Australia is considered free of rabies.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

The dogged pursuit of Johnny Depp may continue however as Mr Joyce says he wants to send an investigator to question Depp concerning how the terriers entered the country. If Depp is flying back to the US with the terriers that might be difficult to do not to mention cost Oz taxpayers some bucks.

If the dogged government of Oz want to interview Depp if he returns to Oz to complete filming, that may jeopardize completion of the movie there.

The guyz in Canberra certainly do follow linear and rigid straightjacket thinking and attitudes, as do many of their subject citizens.

Can't believe these people running around flapping their arms to "Kill the dogs, kill the dogs!!"

Kyle Sandilands, a controversial radio host, told Mr Joyce in a fiery interview: "You sound like an absolute clown telling the guy to b----- off back to Hollywood or we'll kill his dogs. You sound like an idiot. You're a government minister, not some idiot off the street mouthing off to a news camera. Have some decency."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11607336/Johnny-Depp-to-fly-dogs-to-safety-from-Australias-war-on-terriers.html

Pleasssse do not quote Kyle Sandilands, he is a first class muppet and an absolute d***head.

As one person put it...Sandilands calling Joyce an idiot is like Fred Flinstone calling Barney Rubble a caveman.

No reason to argue the valid point and there is in fact every reason to develop and to extend it.

Nineteen years out here and I'm still trying to find more than a couple from down there among dozens and dozens who aren't d***heads.

So when d***heads interview d***heads in their common place, one just has to go with it cause if that's all there is, then that would be all there is.

It's just the reality of it.

Fortunately there are some reasonable people in Canberra cause the terriers did get export licenses to return to the US and the dogs and farms guy Joyce has been somewhat deflected for the moment.

For the moment, so the question becomes whether Joyce knows when to quit, why, how, or whether Joyce will continue to drive on blindly, head down and horns out.

Edited May 15, 2015 by Publicus

[thaibeachlovers]

Hope Depp shows them where they can go....

If the self centred yank wants to bare his naked rear end at Australia, Australians and the law then he should cop the full penalty for his action which is imprisonment for bringing unauthorised animals into the country. Cancel his visa and deport this arrogant yank. This do you realise who I am, I'm a god damn American and we are untouchable attitude doesn't wash with Australians so he can bugger off.

Aye mate an ave the bloody Aussie Artillery blow the pooches up before the local Aussie rules football crowd.

That'd be great entertainment .

[noosard]

What is it with these yanks grizzling about yank bashing

Poor Johnny has to send his puppies home

I wonder if he is contract to do the movie includeds his mutts in a clause

Do the crime be prepared to do the time

[Publicus]

Aussie humour saves the day?

It can be and often is an extreme humour.

A black humour.

[Neurath]

Aussie humour saves the day?

It can be and often is an extreme humour.

A black humour.

Not in bloody Queensland mate. White shoes for sure, but not Black anything. Great big bloody place where ignorance is prized more highly than a couple of bed-willing heifers. Yeah, no f***ing problem.