F430murci Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 So let's see. A Hollywood production company pumps tens of millions of dollars into the economy shooting their 5th (4th??, I don't know) sequel in Oz. And because you don't like Yanks who don't fly commercial, you'd have them kill 2 innocent dogs (the size of a bunny) belonging to the actor who is the key to the multi-billion dollar franchise, and whose contract could probably have them filming their next move in any country he chooses. That's wrong on so many levels... Methinks the minister would be looking for a new job about 5 minutes after it happened. Just on economic grounds. In fact, given the publicity, I suggest he dust off his CV anyway. Just on economics, the minister, the agrarian socialist that he is, is on the money. Biosecurity breaches can cost the farming community multiples of what this movie will even make for oz. And given it is being made in oz it no doubt is getting some sort of tax break or grant so to be honest, he can take his dogs and shove them - on economic grounds of course. So you're claiming that it's either or... Risk losing the farm income or risk losing the movie revenue? A 3rd grader could come up with a solution that risks neither, and costs the country nothing. I'd expect at least that from a ministerial level civil servant. The minister made a judgment error with his attitude and his choice of words. Fortunately, I've seen him on more recent web videos in the past few hours, and he's toned down his rhetoric quite a bit. Yeah, he did. He showed no class with his word choices and comments. Why the need to interject comments like "I don't if he has been voted the sexiest man alive twice," "bugger off" and etc. Very unprofessional or low class for a civil servant to make such comments publically. Hopefully, Depp will not stop to his low class level, remain silent and get the dogs back to the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The OP says DOGS, but then we discover they are Yorkshire Terriers? Did you think Yorkies were guinea pigs? Soak them both in water and I challenge you to tell which is which... Just don't use human shampoo when soaking them in water. My ex washed my daughters guinea pigs with human shampoo when my daughters were around 3 and 4. Both got sick and died and the vet said Prell is a big no-no . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The OP says DOGS, but then we discover they are Yorkshire Terriers? Did you think Yorkies were guinea pigs? Soak them both in water and I challenge you to tell which is which... Same same with my schnauzers and rats. I would be very concerned if my schnauzer looked like a rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandforumaddict Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 If it was just dogs... I guess that people have no idea that it is so easy to bring anything in any country of the world in your private jet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 If it was just dogs... I guess that people have no idea that it is so easy to bring anything in any country of the world in your private jet... Not the one's on private jets that worry me. Australia is lucky they don't have Obama who invites walking biohazards to come on into the US free of charge. Look, I agree that Depp should not have brought the dogs in, but Australia did not have to make such a huge production about it and make the low class public comments they made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 If it was just dogs... I guess that people have no idea that it is so easy to bring anything in any country of the world in your private jet... Not the one's on private jets that worry me. Australia is lucky they don't have Obama who invites walking biohazards to come on into the US free of charge. Look, I agree that Depp should not have brought the dogs in, but Australia did not have to make such a huge production about it and make the low class public comments they made. Government officials killing Yorkshire terriers is always good PR mate. Makes you realize why so many Aussies still like Ned Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I can understand why Barnaby is so worked up about it. He is from a farming background and would be well aware of the dangers. His choice of words is normal, actually many politicians use profanities like that in public, its no big deal. I think Barnaby is a bit of an idiot but in this episode he is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I can understand why Barnaby is so worked up about it. He is from a farming background and would be well aware of the dangers. His choice of words is normal, actually many politicians use profanities like that in public, its no big deal. I think Barnaby is a bit of an idiot but in this episode he is spot on. If you think people got upset at Indonesia for shooting a couple of drug runners just wait for the response to murdering two Yorkshire Terriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I can understand why Barnaby is so worked up about it. He is from a farming background and would be well aware of the dangers. His choice of words is normal, actually many politicians use profanities like that in public, its no big deal. I think Barnaby is a bit of an idiot but in this episode he is spot on. You got the idiot part right. But no, he isn't spot on. Someone should muzzle the drama bitch queen, as there is no reason to blow this out of proportion. But, judging by some of the posts, it's part of the culture there. Should Depp obey the law, absolutely. But why not just send an agent down there with a citation, collect a fine, give a deadline, and be done with it. That's rather brave to threaten a couple of dogs, not much bigger than rats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Not looking too good down there and this is but a sample of the global MSM. A simple order to send the terriers home would have sufficed without a death sentence, or perhaps one could think. The movie wasn't scheduled to premier in Oz anyway and the dog and farms minister Joyce what'shisname wasn't going to attend regardless. Johnny Depp's dogs face death Down Under Australian Government Threatens to Kill Johnny Depp's Dogs Australia Puts Johnny Depp's Dogs on Death Row WAR ON TERRIER: Australia could kill Johnny Depp's dogs ... Johnny Depp's dogs face death in Australia The Australian Rabid Dog Minister Edited May 14, 2015 by Publicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Typically tacky comment from a boorish Aussie with a smidge of power. What a bunch of pedantic x£&@@,! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 If the self centred yank wants to bare his naked rear end at Australia, Australians and the law then he should cop the full penalty for his action which is imprisonment for bringing unauthorised animals into the country. Cancel his visa and deport this arrogant yank. This do you realise who I am, I'm a god damn American and we are untouchable attitude doesn't wash with Australians so he can bugger off. An ignorant rant. Just your normal everyday highly opportunistic, gratuitous and not very well thought out America-hating. This has everything to do with Depp's celebrity status and wealth with perhaps just a soupçon of personal arrogance (arriving in a private jet & taking advantage of his ability to bypass the customs scrutiny everyone else gets); absolutely nothing to do with his American citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) So what's it all about,any idiot will know in most Countries you can't bring in Pets without going through a safety procedure, because of guess what RABIES Laws.In my view this is just some free publicity for the forthcoming film! kick his dogs out and give him a hefty fine! He deserves it,and has put 2 fingers up to sensible Australian laws! Edited May 14, 2015 by MAJIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 impulse I do agree with you. I think that the Minister could have remembered that he was a representative of a country and not used such vulgar language to the press nor made such a scandal. Would this have got into the press at all, if it had been Mr. Joe Smith. It could be also that Depp genuinely didn't know about the regulations. Many countries in Europe don't have these regulations. What exactly was the VULVA language. The word bugger is Hardly vulgar and is used in Australia by all. The term bugger off is actually a polite way to tell someone to leave or go away in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It is now reported that the dogs may not be able to leave Australia and will be put down. Depp was to fly out with his dogs today but now reported on Australian news that the U.S will not allow them back into the country. His dogs don't have the required paperwork to import them from Australia and the U.S has the same strict laws regarding animals as Australia does. He won't get clearance in Australia because the dogs were smuggled in and are due to be put down tomorrow morning. As reported on Australian media the dogs are now stateless and Depp maybe facing criminal charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 a bit <deleted> late now if they have been in Australia for a month already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 There are a heck of a lot more important problems facing Australia than a couple of pampered dogs...I guess border security isn't something that you would consider important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 This Australian Dog Officer cum Agriculture Minister knows how to stir the pot. Opposition agriculture spokesman Joel Fitzgibbon has accused Mr Joyce of turning the pooches into scapegoats for an incompetent biosecurity system. The internet rallied on the news with Twitter users adopting the hashtag "WarOnTerrier" to defend the dogs against their potential death sentence. https://nz.entertainment.yahoo.com/celebrity/tv/a/27914575/dept-launches-review-into-depps-dogs/ The opposition Labor Party questioned in Parliament whether the government was to blame for the biosecurity breakdown because it had cut the department's quarantine funding. Opposition agriculture spokesman Joel Fitzgibbon accused Joyce of "bashing up on poor old Boo Boo and Pistol and, indeed, Johnny Depp." http://tucson.com/news/bigstories/australia-to-depp-fly-your-dogs-out-or-we-ll/article_80d137d2-14b8-5ef2-8dfb-7adf9c2ba679.html Why this Joyce guy had to jump up and down flapping his arms that he wuz going to kill the terriers is beyond me and a whole lot of people. Joyce could have had a citation issued to get the terriers out. Apparently impoundment as an alternative to capital punishment was not considered, or not acceptable to this Mr Joyce. Somebody down there needs to tell this fellow and his needle brigade to bugger off. (In the USA we in my neck of the woods tended strongly to say "Bug out!" when we wanted someone to go away, the way one would swat at a buzzing bug. So not all English speakers around the world are going to be as forgiving or as apologist of Mr. Joyce as some Aussies are for his choice of words.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I thought only Indonesia was giving the death sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Latest I read is he is out of Oz tonight with his pooches. But trouble may be ahead as he may not have the paperwork to bring them back into US. Well done Mr Depp, perhaps using a brain when taking pets international, not all countries will fall at your feet just because you are in the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloghead Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Now I remember why I put 'chooka' on my ignore list a long time ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Now I remember why I put 'chooka' on my ignore list a long time ago... Thanks for sharing such a thoughtful post. My day is now complete ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Now I remember why I put 'chooka' on my ignore list a long time ago...well we are different, I support Australian laws and you don't and that is fair enough. Biosecurity is taken very very seriously in Australia as it appears it is also in America. You can't even take you orange juice of the plane from your in flight meal. The U.S require him to have documentation showing that his dogs were given rabies shots one month before leaving Australia and then they will also be quarantined for 12 months. This applies to dogs returning to the U.S also. When the U.S refuses to allow his dogs to return will thier laws be attacked the same as Australian laws or will they be considered acceptable because they are in the U.S interest. This entire incident is Depp's doing and no blame can be thrown at Aussie laws. Depp could have arranged for the appropriate paperwork and quarantine arrangements or arranged for his dogs to stay in a doggie Motel. Depp is the person 100% at fault, not Australia. Edited May 15, 2015 by chooka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 A little bit of paperwork from a vet in Oz, and a few thousand baht, and the pooches could be enjoying themselves on a beach in Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlann Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 impulse I do agree with you. I think that the Minister could have remembered that he was a representative of a country and not used such vulgar language to the press nor made such a scandal. Would this have got into the press at all, if it had been Mr. Joe Smith. It could be also that Depp genuinely didn't know about the regulations. Many countries in Europe don't have these regulations. What exactly was the VULVA language. The word bugger is Hardly vulgar and is used in Australia by all. The term bugger off is actually a polite way to tell someone to leave or go away in Australia. No no, yanks do not understand terms like this. Some of them are known to be seriously illiterate. The way they talk (THAT accent--- nauseatingly disgusting). That's just one. Then there are the stupid high-fiving and backslapping you see them often do. And the uncultured way they behave and dress themselves in places like Paris, Tokyo etc. You can spot them from miles away. An eyesore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksam Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Aussie will kill a dog but not execute a druggy. That is one screwed up country. Good don't visit. And your country would be???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 No no, yanks do not understand terms like this. Some of them are known to be seriously illiterate. The way they talk (THAT accent--- nauseatingly disgusting). That's just one. Then there are the stupid high-fiving and backslapping you see them often do. And the uncultured way they behave and dress themselves in places like Paris, Tokyo etc. You can spot them from miles away. An eyesore. Meanwhile, in the friendly land down under: http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/05/15/10/27/barnaby-joyce-and-shockjock-kyle-sandilands-in-dogfight-over-disgraceful-comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Now I remember why I put 'chooka' on my ignore list a long time ago...well we are different, I support Australian laws and you don't and that is fair enough. Biosecurity is taken very very seriously in Australia as it appears it is also in America. You can't even take you orange juice of the plane from your in flight meal. The U.S require him to have documentation showing that his dogs were given rabies shots one month before leaving Australia and then they will also be quarantined for 12 months. This applies to dogs returning to the U.S also. When the U.S refuses to allow his dogs to return will thier laws be attacked the same as Australian laws or will they be considered acceptable because they are in the U.S interest.This entire incident is Depp's doing and no blame can be thrown at Aussie laws. Depp could have arranged for the appropriate paperwork and quarantine arrangements or arranged for his dogs to stay in a doggie Motel. Depp is the person 100% at fault, not Australia. That's a nice deflection from your previous posts. It had nothing to do with the dogs or Depp. It had to do with the fact that he was a Yank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) impulse I do agree with you. I think that the Minister could have remembered that he was a representative of a country and not used such vulgar language to the press nor made such a scandal. Would this have got into the press at all, if it had been Mr. Joe Smith. It could be also that Depp genuinely didn't know about the regulations. Many countries in Europe don't have these regulations. What exactly was the VULVA language. The word bugger is Hardly vulgar and is used in Australia by all. The term bugger off is actually a polite way to tell someone to leave or go away in Australia. No no, yanks do not understand terms like this. Some of them are known to be seriously illiterate. The way they talk (THAT accent--- nauseatingly disgusting). That's just one. Then there are the stupid high-fiving and backslapping you see them often do. And the uncultured way they behave and dress themselves in places like Paris, Tokyo etc. You can spot them from miles away. An eyesore. Lol, what a bunch of miserable little tw@@tts. . . BTW, tw@@tts is a polite way of saying p@@S$y in the US. The dogs will be fine. US will let them back in. I know that is a huge disappoint to some of the finer specimens on here, but the US isn't a bunch of drama queens and actually like animals. Lol, heaven forbid if they try and put Johnny Depp's dogs down in the US. We will have all of the animal rights groups, the US Justice department and that crazy fat whaler dude that has been on the lamb all going nuts if anyone tried to hurt some poor little doggies. A bit beside myself that some can be so miserable with their own pathetic existences that they would actually want to see a bad outcome here or see those poor doggies hurt. Wow. Sad stuff to be so pathetic. Edited May 15, 2015 by F430murci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 It is now reported that the dogs may not be able to leave Australia and will be put down. Depp was to fly out with his dogs today but now reported on Australian news that the U.S will not allow them back into the country. His dogs don't have the required paperwork to import them from Australia and the U.S has the same strict laws regarding animals as Australia does. He won't get clearance in Australia because the dogs were smuggled in and are due to be put down tomorrow morning. As reported on Australian media the dogs are now stateless and Depp maybe facing criminal charges. 'Works for me ... (But it'll never happen. A nice little contribution to somebody's election campaign fund, some movie premier or awards night front row seats, maybe a political promotion here or there ... and voilà, problem solved!) ... and he does party with the right people ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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