thaigene2 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 So do these new rules on tourist visas mean that anyone who has shelled out cash to buy a place in Thailand can only actually LIVE IN IT for 90 days a year? If you don't know what I'm talking about you need to read this: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=82672 For the rest who already know the story what the f+++?? I'd appreciate EXPERT views not the flamers..well okay you too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If you bought it ... you likely have the ability to get a VISA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaigene2 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 If you bought it ... you likely have the ability to get a VISA Yes good point "jdinasia" - I do. But is that the case with everyone? Think about all those timeshare and outright property sales around the world - Mexico to Spain to Greece..Do any of these places restrict number of visits? I actually don't know... But I reckon many people who bought here don't have a REAL visa. But maybe the numbers are insignificant...depends who you ask I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) Only those that can't be bothered to go to a consulate and part with a few dollars for a visa will be affected. What's the big fuss? Edited September 11, 2006 by geoffphuket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaigene2 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yes as the OP I agree with you. As I said I'm okay. But what about those that bought and DIDN'T do that? Are they stuffed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yes as the OP I agree with you. As I said I'm okay. But what about those that bought and DIDN'T do that? Are they stuffed? So what's stopping them going to Penang, Singapore etc, and getting one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Worst case scenario - if the new ruling also applies to tourist visas - and as yet, this is unsure - you could stay for 90 days, leave for 90 days and back for 90 days etc. That means you could stay 6 months of the year, not 90 days. I doubt it will come to that though. As has been pointed out there are an number of options for people with a bit of cash - retirement visas, marriage visas, small business with work permit, elite cards, etc etc. Read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Jean Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Buy something that is not a dump, like 3 Mb or more and you have your visa covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 You have misunderstood the Immigration announcement. As I read it, the crackdown is aimed at people who arrive on a 30day visa exemption stamp, and then do a visa run, out and back the same day. They will be limited to 3 trips, then required to leave for 90 days. If you arrive with a Tourist Visa or a Non Imm visa then you will not have problems. If you go for an investment visa buying a condominium you will be in an even stronger position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 This is not a problem, this should only really effect those that have nothing to offer the country, or are taking something from the country such as illegal workers on low wages. Anyone who wants to stay longer can get the visa, simple. The only people who can't get this visa are those too busy to get to the Thai Embassey, but they would not have time to come for that long anyway. Also I expect you could be issued with many 30 day visa's if you only stayed a few days at a time and not the full 30 days. If you want to stay 30 days or longer get the visa. There's another way that's pretty simple if you want to stay longer, find a Thai with a business, get them to employ you, get work permit, and never turn up to work, you pay all cost of WP and non B visa, give them a monthly fee and live here happily ever after. If you can't afford to do that maybe you should go to Cambodia, vietnam, latin america or somewhere cheaper with easier immigration rules and future growth prospects. Thailand is making it clear that they do not want you here, which means your future chances of success here are diminishing and they will diminish further as the government find more ways to make things difficult for you. Instead of being slowly forced out by new Thai rules, find somewhere else and try and find a way to cash in on all the others who will later at some point have to leave Thailand, can't face going home and want to stay somewhere that is easier. The expat populations are growing all over the world and will continue to grow, maybe you can find somewhere else where you can make a go of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Buy something that is not a dump, like 3 Mb or more and you have your visa covered. Unfortunately this option is being closed off. They are not accepting any new applications after 1 October. See here. They will now allow the existing one to keep their visas. Until the next back-flip or somersault with pike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiquila Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 (edited) Yes, the OP had it right. This is a tsunami of COLD WATER on the farang oriented real estate sales and rental market, don't you think? Maybe not so much in Bangkok, but in the resorts it seems so. Especially when added to the company ownership crackdown. Thailand, the hub of crackdowns. Edited September 13, 2006 by Thaiquila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 (edited) If you bought it ... you likely have the ability to get a VISA Yes good point "jdinasia" - I do. But is that the case with everyone? Think about all those timeshare and outright property sales around the world - Mexico to Spain to Greece..Do any of these places restrict number of visits? I actually don't know... But I reckon many people who bought here don't have a REAL visa. But maybe the numbers are insignificant...depends who you ask I guess hmmm can't see this affecting Timeshare folks .... and number of visits here is not restricted. Just the unannounced visits ... if you own property here in Thailand I just don't see an embassy or consulate turning you down from your first post the purchaser would be able to live in his property at least 180 days .... but with two tourist visas a year and 3 border runs between each ... that's gonna cover 360 days a year Edited September 13, 2006 by jdinasia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiquila Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 If you bought it ... you likely have the ability to get a VISA Yes good point "jdinasia" - I do. But is that the case with everyone? Think about all those timeshare and outright property sales around the world - Mexico to Spain to Greece..Do any of these places restrict number of visits? I actually don't know... But I reckon many people who bought here don't have a REAL visa. But maybe the numbers are insignificant...depends who you ask I guess hmmm can't see this affecting Timeshare folks .... and number of visits here is not restricted. Just the unannounced visits ... if you own property here in Thailand I just don't see an embassy or consulate turning you down I don't get your point at all. Owning property is not a specified reason for an O visa. So if multi entry O's dry up (and I still think they seem to easier in the UK than elsewhere), what would a person do if they didn't qualify for another visa. Serial chop stamps and tourist visas are now OUT. I really don't get how you can be so certain that just owning property would make a person secure for long stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveDaBlues Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 This is not a problem, this should only really effect those that have nothing to offer the country, or are taking something from the country such as illegal workers on low wages.Anyone who wants to stay longer can get the visa, simple. The only people who can't get this visa are those too busy to get to the Thai Embassey, but they would not have time to come for that long anyway. Also I expect you could be issued with many 30 day visa's if you only stayed a few days at a time and not the full 30 days. If you want to stay 30 days or longer get the visa. There's another way that's pretty simple if you want to stay longer, find a Thai with a business, get them to employ you, get work permit, and never turn up to work, you pay all cost of WP and non B visa, give them a monthly fee and live here happily ever after. If you can't afford to do that maybe you should go to Cambodia, vietnam, latin america or somewhere cheaper with easier immigration rules and future growth prospects. Thailand is making it clear that they do not want you here, which means your future chances of success here are diminishing and they will diminish further as the government find more ways to make things difficult for you. Instead of being slowly forced out by new Thai rules, find somewhere else and try and find a way to cash in on all the others who will later at some point have to leave Thailand, can't face going home and want to stay somewhere that is easier. The expat populations are growing all over the world and will continue to grow, maybe you can find somewhere else where you can make a go of it. Doesn't need to be a Thai; anyone with a business. I predict this will happen and be a sweet little income earner. Of course, the business owner COULD get burned if caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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