Getting a new visa to Thailand

[user555]

Hi everyone,

I have a dual citizenship - U.K and Israel. I am in my 30's.

I do not work in Thailand, and do not plan to work in Thailand in the future.

I currently study online, and after that I plan to work online.

I have been in Thailand for 18 months, and I would like to stay longer. My Israeli passport has 4 visas to Thailand in it. The last visa was stamped twice.

The first stamp says: "The holder of this pasport travels to Thailand under a tourist visa sevral times, which may result in the refusal of a visa in the future. "

Second stamp says: "Proofs of residence in Thailand and financial income are required next time."

Which more or less means that I will not be able to get a tourist visa on this passport.

My second passport (U.K) is empty and I would like to get a visa on it.

The first question is - Can I make a tourist visa on my UK passport?

My second question is - how do I switch to start using the UK passport? I tried flying from Thailand to Lao, but suprisingly in the airport in Lao they searched the UK passport for a departure stamp, and told me they need to stamp the passport that has a departure stamp from Thailand.

I would be greatful for your help.

[ubonjoe]

It is unusual for immigration at an airport to look for a departure stamp from the country you left and is not really a requirement.

You could try flying to another country to do the passport swap.

[Mario2008]

The only way is to swap paspsorts at an airborder. Normally at airborders they are not checked, but Laos is very small and not very bussy. I would swap at a more bussy airport, where they normally do not have time to check for the exit stamps from Thailand.

[IMA_FARANG]

I would try flying to some place like Malaysia with your U.K passport and then enter that way when returning to Thailand.

Malaysia might be a good place to get a tourist visa to Thailand..... try Penang , Malaysia for the Thai visa and fly back from Penang to Bangkok with your new Thai visa.

By the way, be very careful about working in Thailand, even working on-line.

Many people do get away with it, but technically you need a Thai work permit to do any work, even working on-line from Thailand.

[Briggsy]

I'm not sure the Malaysia idea is very good!

[user555]

Thank you very much for all your replies.

I would try flying to some place like Malaysia with your U.K passport and then enter that way when returning to Thailand.

Malaysia might be a good place to get a tourist visa to Thailand..... try Penang , Malaysia for the Thai visa and fly back from Penang to Bangkok with your new Thai visa.

By the way, be very careful about working in Thailand, even working on-line.

Many people do get away with it, but technically you need a Thai work permit to do any work, even working on-line from Thailand.

About working online - I try to avoid anything illegal. Anyway, this is not my current concern.

About flying to Malaysia - As long as I am using the Israeli passport, It is not an option.

I checked the Tourist visa application forms (Vientiane http://vientiane.thaiembassy.org/upload/pdf/VisaApplicationForm.pdf

and Phnom Penh http://www.thaiembassy.org/phnompenh/contents/files/services-20120703-094950-205456.pdf)

They ask for my nationalities at birth.

So if I apply for a tourist visa on my UK passport, I will declare UK and Israeli nationalities at birth. Could it prevent me from getting a new tourist visa?

[nzexpat]

Declaring Israeli heritage/citizenship is only likely (as you should know) to be a problem in predominately Muslim countries.

Cambodia /Laos are NOT Muslim majority countries !

[user555]

Hi,

My last question was misunderstood. I will try to explain myself again.

I have a dual citizenship - U.K and Israel. On my Israeli passport I have 4 visas to Thailand, and if I request for another tourist visa on this passport I will probably be refused.

My UK passport is empty, and I would like to apply for a tourist visa on this passport.

Application form for a new tourist visa includes the following sections:

Nationality at birth - to which I will reply: UK and Israel.

Place of birth - Which is a city in Israel.

How likely is it for a Thai consulate/embassy to run a computer search and deny my visa request (on my UK passport) due to the visas I have on my Israeli passport?

[OJAS]

How likely is it for a Thai consulate/embassy to run a computer search and deny my visa request (on my UK passport) due to the visas I have on my Israeli passport?

A distinct possibility, I'd say (although I wouldn't go as far as saying probability), particularly given that you will be declaring your dual nationality and place of birth in Israel. Immigration authorities worldwide are now increasingly joining up the dots as regards dual nationals (e.g. when you next renew your British passport, HMPO will insist on seeing copies of your Israeli one).

I think that you need to accept that, in your present situation, your days in Thailand are numbered.

[ubonjoe]

Embassies and consulates do not check for previous visas in other passports. They just look at your current passport to see if you have had one from them before and are getting another one back to back.

Immigration does link passports to a previous or 2nd passport. But tourist visa entries have no limits.

[user555]

Embassies and consulates do not check for previous visas in other passports. They just look at your current passport to see if you have had one from them before and are getting another one back to back.

Immigration does link passports to a previous or 2nd passport. But tourist visa entries have no limits.

Thank you very much for your reply. I have two follow-up questions:

Referring to embassies and consulates - what are you basing your information on?

Referring to immigration - Just for my understanding, when does immigration link to old or second passport?

[ubonjoe]

Embassies and consulates do not check for previous visas in other passports. They just look at your current passport to see if you have had one from them before and are getting another one back to back.

Immigration does link passports to a previous or 2nd passport. But tourist visa entries have no limits.

Thank you very much for your reply. I have two follow-up questions:

Referring to embassies and consulates - what are you basing your information on?

Referring to immigration - Just for my understanding, when does immigration link to old or second passport?

I base it on fact. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has no data base of visas issued that an embassy or consulate can search.

People with several tourist visas from one location and have been refused another one have gotten a new passport and were able to get another visa from the same place.

When you enter for the first time on a passport immigration does a name and date of birth check of their data base and if you have entered the country with another passport before they will link the current passport to your previous history.

[user555]

Thank you very much.

I plan to fly to Thailand, enter Thailand with my UK passport, and after a month make a new Visa.

I would like to fly to Chiang Mai airport.

Does anyone know if they check passport for departure stamp in Chiang Mai airport (and might require me to use the Israeli passport, as happened in Luang Prabank airport)?

[ubonjoe]

Thank you very much.

I plan to fly to Thailand, enter Thailand with my UK passport, and after a month make a new Visa.

I would like to fly to Chiang Mai airport.

Does anyone know if they check passport for departure stamp in Chiang Mai airport (and might require me to use the Israeli passport, as happened in Luang Prabank airport)?

They will not look for departure stamps at Chiang Mai airport on entry to the country.

What happened on entry to Laos was unusual but was probably because they have very few international arrivals there. Vientiane would of been different.

[user555]

Ubonjoe,

First of all, thank you for all your replies.

I am sorry if I’m repeating myself, but I would like to be sure. When arriving in one of Thailand’s airports, as you said immigration can link different passports. Is it reasonable for the immigration to link my UK and Israeli passports, and (especially when doing Visa on arrival) require me to enter Thailand on the same passport I used to enter Thailand in the past?

[ubonjoe]

You certainly will not be getting a visa on arrival. It will be a visa exempt entry.

Immigration is accustomed to people having dual nationalities or more than one passport.. They will not force you to use your other passport unless you show it to them.