Suvarnabhumi Airport says ex-cop arrested in Japan didn't bring gun from Thailand

[Docno]

Sure - because if a Thai ex-cop wanted to get his hands on a gun, it would be easier to do so in Japan (with all of its strict gun laws) than back in Thailand.

[Jay Sata]

What is amazing is the head of security at Bangkok airport revealing their detectors can not find guns in passengers luggage.

' Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

So it is OK for guns and bullets which contain gunpowder to be loaded on to aircraft departing BKK?

[Colabamumbai]

Just the kind of answers that you would expect from Thailand. Why don't they say he picked it up in the toilet on the flight.

Loaded handgun endangering the lives of everyone on the plane if it accidently went off.

10 years in jail he deserves no less.

[elgordo38]

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Dangerous objects like the 5cm fingernail scissors that were confiscated from me. Of course I am not a Poo Yai

ex police chief friend of Thaksin.

Ex police chief friend of Thaksin. Well that last part says it all. See you in 13 years.

[Basil B]

Well after seeing digital imagery showing him actually being frisked throws out the window my theory that he was let through a side door...

Assuming imagery of his carry on and hold baggage have been independently verified then we must assume he did not take it with him, so did he;

• buy the gun in Japan?
• was given it by another member of the delegation he was with?

The guns serial number should say a lot...

One thing for sure he did know about it unless it was planted on him.

Instead of the Embassy trying to get him released the Thai government should be requesting police investigators Army Intelligence to work with the Japanese police on this to establish what crimes he and the gun may have been involved in.

Also may be a good idea for investigators to review digital imagery of all the delegates when passing through airport security.

Edited June 26, 2015 by Basil B

[lvr181]

"Thai Airport Says Ex-Cop Arrested in Japan Didn't Bring Gun from Thailand" He found it under the seat? Another passenger gave it to him? Picked it up on a stop-over (if there was one)?

"However, from now on we will increase frequency and intensity of our inspections." Why the increase in inspections if there was no problem to start with? An admission of guilt? Sounds like a bit of a lame reason/excuse for a failure at the airport. The "ostrich" syndrome strikes again

Edited June 26, 2015 by lvr181

[halloween]

Ex police chief friend of Thaksin. Well that last part says it all. See you in 13 years.

He seems to be getting excellent consular assistance. How would his friendship with another criminal affect his current position?

[EnglishJohn]

Why is everyone going off on conspiracy theories and blame ?.

He went out with the gun in his luggage - where it was not detected and was not reasonably expected to be, and brought it back in his hand luggage - where it was detected in Japan.

The only person to blame here is Thoopkrachang who thought himself 'untouchable' and hence thought he could take a gun with him. He has now got a short, sharp lesson in how the civilised world conducts itself and I reckon he is going to pay the price.

It seems it's impossible to have a simple story in Thailand.

This kind of thing is exactly why Thailand is so xenophobic : they know what they do is wrong so they don't want anyone sticking their noses in and letting the rest of the world know.

[EnglishJohn]

What is amazing is the head of security at Bangkok airport revealing their detectors can not find guns in passengers luggage.

' Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

So it is OK for guns and bullets which contain gunpowder to be loaded on to aircraft departing BKK?

There is no way a bullet will go off by accident in the hold. Even if it did, the fire suppression would take care of it.

There is much more danger from all the lithium batteries which will 'vent with flames' if they short circuit. The systems cannot extinguish chemical fires like that. You should be more concerned with people taking these batteries with them than firearms.

A little education goes a long way.

[djlest]

the question remains what on earth is he doing with a hang gun anyway. bringing one from Thailand is stupid enough, purchasing one is Japan obviously means he was on triad business.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

There is no way a bullet will go off by accident in the hold. Even if it did, the fire suppression would take care of it.

Apparently you missed the news report that another member posted here in one of the threads on Kamronwit re a gun packed in checked-in luggage discharging on a commercial jet in the U.S. while it was sitting on the tarmac being loaded with passengers onboard. According to that report, the gun discharged from inside the checked luggage when it was being handled by the baggage staff inside the hold of the plane.

The bullet traveled into the cabin with passengers onboard and lodged into a diaper bag sitting at the feet of a passenger. Fortunately in that case, no one was hit. But it turned out the gun belonged to a woman passenger who had placed two guns into her checked bag -- neither of them properly secured, and obviously not unloaded as required by U.S. law.

[Jay Sata]

Those of you with theories he bought the gun in Japan should read all the evidence. He claims he brought it from Thailand by accident and discovered it in his luggage in Japan.

His son has gone to Japan foolishly thinking that because he has brought Thai paperwork and a Thai licence that will OK his dada to carry the weapon in a country that takes a dim view of guns.

As others have pointed out this was the police chief who never locked up the Red Bull brat up after he slammed into a cop killing him while high on drugs and alcohol.

I am sure he will have no problem funding a good legal team in Japan.

Edited June 26, 2015 by Jay Sata

[harrry]

We'll know soon enough, Japanese prosecutors have 23 days to decide whether to prosecute or not.

He can get 10 years for that offence in Japan, but he wont have to sleep in a room with a 100 other inmates with no beds.

But he will not be able to have the elite prison he could here. I understand he would have to serve 33% of his sentance there. before serving the rest here

Edited June 26, 2015 by harrry

[realenglish1]

Oh give me a break. They tested the systems in the United States and guess what ? They failed 85 % of the time

HE brought the gun from Thailand The did not detect it and are more worried about saving face then filling the holes of the system

BAD

[thedemon]

Why all the hatred for Suvarnabhumi in this thread? Everyone that passes through airports frequently knows that something can be picked up by one airports security and not another's but might well be by the same airport the next day. It happens all the time.

And that gun was tiny. I have no doubt it could pass unnoticed through many airports security systems.

Should it happen? No, of course not. But it's hardly surprising that it did.

[brucegoniners]

So I suppose the gun just appeared out of thin air sometime during the flight?

Thai officials just crack me up.

They say the absolutely stupidest things!

T I T

[Jay Sata]

in reply to Thedemon

Well that's alright then.

Perhaps you should write to the newspapers to reassure air travellers.

Edited June 26, 2015 by Jay Sata

[Neurath]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

[chilli42]

What kind of idiot brings a loaded gun into a foreign country? What possible purpose woukd it serve other than to have him end up on the wrong end of the judges bench? If you were trying to hide a gun you would disassemble it and spread the various parts in different bits of luggage ... very tough to identify. This fellow can't be playing with a full deck and should not be in possession of a firearm anywhere.

[jobwolf]

JAPAN

Suvarnabhumi official says Camronwit's gun was not detected

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE security system at Suvarnabhumi Airport did not detect a handgun belonging to retired city police chief Lt General Camronwit Toopkrajank when he left the airport for Japan on June 18.

Camronwit is in detention in Japan after a gun was found in a bag he carried as he was about to leave Tokyo for Bangkok on Monday.

Suvarnabhumi Airport deputy director Phet Chan-charoen said both passenger and luggage have to pass security screening at the airport before leaving the country.

"A passenger [would] walk through an x-ray machine while luggage [would] go through a bomb detector, or CTX, which would focus the screening on explosives only," he said in a press conference.

Asked if the CTX machine could detect a gun, Phet said it would identify it only as a metal object which would not pose danger to the plane, he said.

Earlier it was suspected that Camronwit may have bought the gun in Japan. However, Thai police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri told reporters that Camronwit had the gun from long before he retired. His son is now in Japan to show a registration document to Japanese police.

Observers said this showed Camronwit brought the gun in question with him from Bangkok - only to be detected in Japan. Security systems of the Airports of Thailand that oversee Suvarnabhumi Airport have been criticised for not being adequate enough to detect the gun.

However, Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Meanwhile, Public Affairs Division director Pol Maj General Apichart Suribunya said Japan's public prosecutors might spend a few more days before concluding Camronwit's case.

It is believed that Japan uses the same procedure as Thailand's in investigating such cases, so more time is required.

Apichart said he had learned that Japanese police had handed Camronwit to public prosecutors on Wednesday. His division has contacted their Japanese counterparts and asked for updates on the case. But the procedure would take time, as it was not easy to translate from Japanese to English.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Suvarnabhumi-official-says-Camronwits-gun-was-not--30263148.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-26

Fantastic, I have been through Suvarnabhumi 4 times this year and they did not see a Safari Knife I took with me to Africa,

[jobwolf]

JAPAN

Suvarnabhumi official says Camronwit's gun was not detected

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE security system at Suvarnabhumi Airport did not detect a handgun belonging to retired city police chief Lt General Camronwit Toopkrajank when he left the airport for Japan on June 18.

Camronwit is in detention in Japan after a gun was found in a bag he carried as he was about to leave Tokyo for Bangkok on Monday.

Suvarnabhumi Airport deputy director Phet Chan-charoen said both passenger and luggage have to pass security screening at the airport before leaving the country.

"A passenger [would] walk through an x-ray machine while luggage [would] go through a bomb detector, or CTX, which would focus the screening on explosives only," he said in a press conference.

Asked if the CTX machine could detect a gun, Phet said it would identify it only as a metal object which would not pose danger to the plane, he said.

Earlier it was suspected that Camronwit may have bought the gun in Japan. However, Thai police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri told reporters that Camronwit had the gun from long before he retired. His son is now in Japan to show a registration document to Japanese police.

Observers said this showed Camronwit brought the gun in question with him from Bangkok - only to be detected in Japan. Security systems of the Airports of Thailand that oversee Suvarnabhumi Airport have been criticised for not being adequate enough to detect the gun.

However, Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Meanwhile, Public Affairs Division director Pol Maj General Apichart Suribunya said Japan's public prosecutors might spend a few more days before concluding Camronwit's case.

It is believed that Japan uses the same procedure as Thailand's in investigating such cases, so more time is required.

Apichart said he had learned that Japanese police had handed Camronwit to public prosecutors on Wednesday. His division has contacted their Japanese counterparts and asked for updates on the case. But the procedure would take time, as it was not easy to translate from Japanese to English.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Suvarnabhumi-official-says-Camronwits-gun-was-not--30263148.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-26

Fantastic, I have been through Suvarnabhumi 4 times this year and they did not see a Safari Knife I took with me to Africa,

This was accidently of course.

[LannaGuy]

oh he forgot did he??? LIVE ammo on board an airplane? putting all those people at risk? an ex-Police Chief? and what is the good General saying??? "we will provide every assistance" wow, just wow

Quite interesting, don't you think, that the Thai authorities seem to be given considerable help to this man. Especially as he was very openly proud of his close friendship and personal relationship with Thaksin. The picture on the wall of Thaksin pinning on his insignia, flying off to Hong Kong for meetings with a wanted fugitive. Wonder if he took his gun to HK too?

ha ha Thaksin, Thaksin, Thaksin

gimme a break he's just like most Thais, thinks he's above the law, this was a very dangerous incident which highlights the lack of security Thai side and the Japanese who are to be congratulated on their side.

with all we know about terrorism taking a weapon with five rounds onto a plane? NO excuses and why the 'every assistance' from your hero? would he say that for a farmer? a shop assistant? no I think not. Elite helping the elite in trouble

Law above all else for everyone from top to bottom is the only answer to all this chaos

[soalbundy]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

works just fine in America,especially in churches and schools. Nobody in a CIVILIZED country needs a gun, OK that rules out America.

[soalbundy]

JAPAN

Suvarnabhumi official says Camronwit's gun was not detected

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE security system at Suvarnabhumi Airport did not detect a handgun belonging to retired city police chief Lt General Camronwit Toopkrajank when he left the airport for Japan on June 18.

Camronwit is in detention in Japan after a gun was found in a bag he carried as he was about to leave Tokyo for Bangkok on Monday.

Suvarnabhumi Airport deputy director Phet Chan-charoen said both passenger and luggage have to pass security screening at the airport before leaving the country.

"A passenger [would] walk through an x-ray machine while luggage [would] go through a bomb detector, or CTX, which would focus the screening on explosives only," he said in a press conference.

Asked if the CTX machine could detect a gun, Phet said it would identify it only as a metal object which would not pose danger to the plane, he said.

Earlier it was suspected that Camronwit may have bought the gun in Japan. However, Thai police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri told reporters that Camronwit had the gun from long before he retired. His son is now in Japan to show a registration document to Japanese police.

Observers said this showed Camronwit brought the gun in question with him from Bangkok - only to be detected in Japan. Security systems of the Airports of Thailand that oversee Suvarnabhumi Airport have been criticised for not being adequate enough to detect the gun.

However, Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Meanwhile, Public Affairs Division director Pol Maj General Apichart Suribunya said Japan's public prosecutors might spend a few more days before concluding Camronwit's case.

It is believed that Japan uses the same procedure as Thailand's in investigating such cases, so more time is required.

Apichart said he had learned that Japanese police had handed Camronwit to public prosecutors on Wednesday. His division has contacted their Japanese counterparts and asked for updates on the case. But the procedure would take time, as it was not easy to translate from Japanese to English.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Suvarnabhumi-official-says-Camronwits-gun-was-not--30263148.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-26

Fantastic, I have been through Suvarnabhumi 4 times this year and they did not see a Safari Knife I took with me to Africa,

Whose throat were you going to cut ?

[Soutpeel]

JAPAN

Suvarnabhumi official says Camronwit's gun was not detected

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE security system at Suvarnabhumi Airport did not detect a handgun belonging to retired city police chief Lt General Camronwit Toopkrajank when he left the airport for Japan on June 18.

Camronwit is in detention in Japan after a gun was found in a bag he carried as he was about to leave Tokyo for Bangkok on Monday.

Suvarnabhumi Airport deputy director Phet Chan-charoen said both passenger and luggage have to pass security screening at the airport before leaving the country.

"A passenger [would] walk through an x-ray machine while luggage [would] go through a bomb detector, or CTX, which would focus the screening on explosives only," he said in a press conference.

Asked if the CTX machine could detect a gun, Phet said it would identify it only as a metal object which would not pose danger to the plane, he said.

Earlier it was suspected that Camronwit may have bought the gun in Japan. However, Thai police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri told reporters that Camronwit had the gun from long before he retired. His son is now in Japan to show a registration document to Japanese police.

Observers said this showed Camronwit brought the gun in question with him from Bangkok - only to be detected in Japan. Security systems of the Airports of Thailand that oversee Suvarnabhumi Airport have been criticised for not being adequate enough to detect the gun.

However, Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Meanwhile, Public Affairs Division director Pol Maj General Apichart Suribunya said Japan's public prosecutors might spend a few more days before concluding Camronwit's case.

It is believed that Japan uses the same procedure as Thailand's in investigating such cases, so more time is required.

Apichart said he had learned that Japanese police had handed Camronwit to public prosecutors on Wednesday. His division has contacted their Japanese counterparts and asked for updates on the case. But the procedure would take time, as it was not easy to translate from Japanese to English.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Suvarnabhumi-official-says-Camronwits-gun-was-not--30263148.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-26

Fantastic, I have been through Suvarnabhumi 4 times this year and they did not see a Safari Knife I took with me to Africa,

What's a Safari knife ?

[Soutpeel]

JAPAN

Suvarnabhumi official says Camronwit's gun was not detected

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE security system at Suvarnabhumi Airport did not detect a handgun belonging to retired city police chief Lt General Camronwit Toopkrajank when he left the airport for Japan on June 18.

Camronwit is in detention in Japan after a gun was found in a bag he carried as he was about to leave Tokyo for Bangkok on Monday.

Suvarnabhumi Airport deputy director Phet Chan-charoen said both passenger and luggage have to pass security screening at the airport before leaving the country.

"A passenger [would] walk through an x-ray machine while luggage [would] go through a bomb detector, or CTX, which would focus the screening on explosives only," he said in a press conference.

Asked if the CTX machine could detect a gun, Phet said it would identify it only as a metal object which would not pose danger to the plane, he said.

Earlier it was suspected that Camronwit may have bought the gun in Japan. However, Thai police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri told reporters that Camronwit had the gun from long before he retired. His son is now in Japan to show a registration document to Japanese police.

Observers said this showed Camronwit brought the gun in question with him from Bangkok - only to be detected in Japan. Security systems of the Airports of Thailand that oversee Suvarnabhumi Airport have been criticised for not being adequate enough to detect the gun.

However, Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Meanwhile, Public Affairs Division director Pol Maj General Apichart Suribunya said Japan's public prosecutors might spend a few more days before concluding Camronwit's case.

It is believed that Japan uses the same procedure as Thailand's in investigating such cases, so more time is required.

Apichart said he had learned that Japanese police had handed Camronwit to public prosecutors on Wednesday. His division has contacted their Japanese counterparts and asked for updates on the case. But the procedure would take time, as it was not easy to translate from Japanese to English.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Suvarnabhumi-official-says-Camronwits-gun-was-not--30263148.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-26

Fantastic, I have been through Suvarnabhumi 4 times this year and they did not see a Safari Knife I took with me to Africa,

Whose throat were you going to cut ?

I have never heard of one....must like those fake Safari hats with the fake leopard skin bands all the tourist buy...thinking they are george of the jungle...

[halloween]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

So when 2 drunk dudes decide they don't like each other, they can pull out their guns and start shooting. Then the other 48 "good guys" who brought their "personal weapons" along, decide which one is the "bad dude" (probably easier if there is a racial difference) and join the shoot-out. Now in a wide body with say 300 people packed in like sardines, how many dead and dying would you estimate?

This makes "Snakes on a Plane" sound like a fun start to a holiday.

[Johpa]

No one takes responsibility for anything. Ever.

In the west the inability to accept responsibility resides both in corporate smoke and mirrors (legality) and the focus upon group work and group think. Neither are mutually exclusive.

In Thailand it is ingrained within the larger culture under the rubric of saving face (รักษาหน้า) or expressing face (แสดงหน้า) whereby one is allowed to boldly lie where no man has lied before and then expect everyone else to accept whatever BS you are espousing. And the more power (money) one has, regardless of source, the more BS you assume everyone else will politely swallow. The best treatise I have found on this aspect of Thai culture was the book Everyday Life in Thailand: an Interpretation written by Niels Muldar, a book that many of us older hands long used as our bible for understanding and negotiating through Thai society.

[rametindallas]

I believe that what we are presently seeing and reading about this incident is the clean-up procedure after

the .The Thai officials are dealing with the Japanese police and legal system, which, unfortunately for Kamronwit, is far superior in all aspects to what passes as a police farce in this country. There will not be any fat brown envelopes and a session of Thai wais and bowing and scraping in this case.

It would seem PM Prayut has already blown his top, especially given the international condemnation of Thailand's lax security at airports and aircraft maintenance etc. No doubt Kamronwit will somehow get leniency, but it certainly could not have happened to a nicer man.

No doubt Kamronwit will somehow get leniency

Even if he is released with a reprimand, his friends will never let him forget this dumb move and it will be a major part of his legacy and will follow him the rest of his life. You are so right, "it certainly could not have happened to a nicer man."

.

[rametindallas]

"Kamronwit's arrest raised concerns among Thai officials that Suvarnabhumi Airport staff may have failed to spot the firearm in Kamronwit's belongings, or provided him with VIP treatment.

Sirote Duangrat, the airport’s director, dismissed the speculation in a press conference today."

Is this Airport Director a retard, inbred or just plain stupid ... ? Why dont he just admit that his staff overlooked the loaded gun instead of getting in to all these lies and nonsens stories like "they had 6 months training" - more likely 6 minutes ...

We still didnt hear anyone take any kind of responsibility for this idiotic misery ... not the useless RTP nor Swampy admits anything

I really hope ICAO have their eyes on this case as the safety in Swampy is like stealing candy from a baby - We wait for the punishment, better sooner than later

Once Again RTP has disgraced Thailand ...

Ahhh, the ICAO. You bring up a good point. I'll bet they'll be very interested in how Khun Sirote accepts responsibility and puts serious changes into effect.... or not. Khun Sirote did not do himself any favors by destroying his credibility and the ICAO will not be so quick to take him at his word for anything. "Proof, sir, we need proof". LoL

Once Again RTP has disgraced Thailand

Does this mean they can strip retired Pol. Gen. Kamronwit of his rank?

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