Bush: New gun limits not way to prevent shooting tragedies

[FritsSikkink]

Another Bush, another Dunce!

Did you live in Florida under Jeb Bush's governorship? Why do you say he is a dunce...as compared to what current leader? Name it, Boy.

Floridian who actually experienced JEB! Very simply 'JEB' on election signs. Get used to it folks, he will be the next president and just might be able to repair all the 'dunce' acts from Oboy.

he rigged his brothers presidential election in florida, he should be in jail

[oslooskar]

The comparison between violent crimes in the UK and the USA is a false one.

Oh, I quite agree! In fact, I really and truly don’t know how anyone could compare the crime rates of the two countries and then arrive at the conclusion that Britain’s strict gun control laws are in some way responsible for that country’s lower homicide rate.

After all, Great Britain is an island off the coast of Europe, and, unlike the United States, it does not have an almost two thousand mile long border with a violent crime ridden Third World nation, nor does it have a Black population of 13% percent that is possessed of a very large and violent criminal class.

So let’s try to be more objective in our comparisons and take a look at some of the nations in Western Europe where the populace can legally own firearms. Germany, for example, has a gun ownership rate of 30.3 guns per 100 residents and a homicide rate of only 0.8 per 100,000 inhabitants. (The United Kingdom’s homicide rate is higher at 1.0) Sweden has a gun ownership rate of 31.6 and a homicide rate of only 0.7 per 100,000. Austria has a gun ownership rate of 30.4 and a homicide rate of only 0.9 per 100,000. Iceland has a gun ownership rate of 30.3 and a homicide rate of only 0.3 per 100,000. Switzerland has a gun ownership rate of 45.7 and a homicide rate of only 0.6 per 100,000.

Draw your own conclusions.

[Merzik]

The comparison between violent crimes in the UK and the USA is a false one.

Oh, I quite agree! In fact, I really and truly dont know how anyone could compare the crime rates of the two countries and then arrive at the conclusion that Britains strict gun control laws are in some way responsible for that countrys lower homicide rate.

After all, Great Britain is an island off the coast of Europe, and, unlike the United States, it does not have an almost two thousand mile long border with a violent crime ridden Third World nation, nor does it have a Black population of 13% percent that is possessed of a very large and violent criminal class.

So lets try to be more objective in our comparisons and take a look at some of the nations in Western Europe where the populace can legally own firearms. Germany, for example, has a gun ownership rate of 30.3 guns per 100 residents and a homicide rate of only 0.8 per 100,000 inhabitants. (The United Kingdoms homicide rate is higher at 1.0) Sweden has a gun ownership rate of 31.6 and a homicide rate of only 0.7 per 100,000. Austria has a gun ownership rate of 30.4 and a homicide rate of only 0.9 per 100,000. Iceland has a gun ownership rate of 30.3 and a homicide rate of only 0.3 per 100,000. Switzerland has a gun ownership rate of 45.7 and a homicide rate of only 0.6 per 100,000.

Draw your own conclusions.

Touche! Excellent post. More on England and the failure of the UK Nanny State to reduce violent crime with draconian gun control laws.

"England's Bill of Rights in 1688 was quite unambiguous that the right of a private individual to be armed was an individual right, independently of any collective right of militias. Guns were as freely available to Englishmen as to Americans, on into the early 20th century.

Nor was gun control in England a response to any firearms murder crisis. Over a period of three years near the end of the 19th century, "there were only 59 fatalities from handguns in a population of nearly 30 million people," according to Professor Malcolm. "Of these, 19 were accidents, 35 were suicides and only three were homicides -- an average of one a year."

The rise of the interventionist state in early 20th century England included efforts to restrict ownership of guns. After the First World War, gun control laws began restricting the possession of firearms. Then, after the Second World War, these restrictions grew more severe, eventually disarming the civilian population of England -- or at least the law-abiding part of it.

It was during this period of severe restrictions on owning firearms that crime rates in general, and the murder rate in particular, began to rise in England. "As the number of legal firearms have dwindled, the numbers of armed crimes have risen," Professor Malcolm points out...."

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2002/11/26/gun_control_myths/page/full

Edited June 30, 2015 by Merzik