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timmy t are you 1 of the murdering slave captains, because you certainly come over as 1 all gain at human cost no matter what, go and spend your life as a slave on a THAI ship at sea, and tell me how wonderful your existence was, nothing to do with EU USA, MODERN DAY SLAVERY.so get with the real world. thai people are money money money regardless of how they make it, its what separates the west from the east, law enforcement and what the thais have lost now their SMILE, which is now false, and scum like you are the biggest part of the problem, typical blame the whole world for your own problems,

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timmy t are you 1 of the murdering slave captains, because you certainly come over as 1 all gain at human cost no matter what, go and spend your life as a slave on a THAI ship at sea, and tell me how wonderful your existence was, nothing to do with EU USA, MODERN DAY SLAVERY.so get with the real world. thai people are money money money regardless of how they make it, its what separates the west from the east, law enforcement and what the thais have lost now their SMILE, which is now false, and scum like you are the biggest part of the problem, typical blame the whole world for your own problems,

this EU ban is not about slavery. it's about catching too much fish, catching small fish. (according to EU rules). I am against slavery. but also I am against intervention in affairs of independent nations.

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timmy t are you 1 of the murdering slave captains, because you certainly come over as 1 all gain at human cost no matter what, go and spend your life as a slave on a THAI ship at sea, and tell me how wonderful your existence was, nothing to do with EU USA, MODERN DAY SLAVERY.so get with the real world. thai people are money money money regardless of how they make it, its what separates the west from the east, law enforcement and what the thais have lost now their SMILE, which is now false, and scum like you are the biggest part of the problem, typical blame the whole world for your own problems,

this EU ban is not about slavery. it's about catching too much fish, catching small fish. (according to EU rules). I am against slavery. but also I am against intervention in affairs of independent nations.

The EU ban is an option they have and can use Thailand can keep doing fishing the way they always have just willnot be selling any fish to Eu It is Thailands choice they arenot being forced into changing they are simply being informed keep fishing the way you are and lose sales to EU

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timmy t are you 1 of the murdering slave captains, because you certainly come over as 1 all gain at human cost no matter what, go and spend your life as a slave on a THAI ship at sea, and tell me how wonderful your existence was, nothing to do with EU USA, MODERN DAY SLAVERY.so get with the real world. thai people are money money money regardless of how they make it, its what separates the west from the east, law enforcement and what the thais have lost now their SMILE, which is now false, and scum like you are the biggest part of the problem, typical blame the whole world for your own problems,

this EU ban is not about slavery. it's about catching too much fish, catching small fish. (according to EU rules). I am against slavery. but also I am against intervention in affairs of independent nations.

The EU ban is an option they have and can use Thailand can keep doing fishing the way they always have just willnot be selling any fish to Eu It is Thailands choice they arenot being forced into changing they are simply being informed keep fishing the way you are and lose sales to EU

again:

Thailand is blackmailed by socialist EU regulators who act against interest of there own electors to impose there sick socialist ideas .

In the free world government should not dictate business what and where it should buy goods, forcing a price grow.

that's why business is running away from EU.

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timmy t are you 1 of the murdering slave captains, because you certainly come over as 1 all gain at human cost no matter what, go and spend your life as a slave on a THAI ship at sea, and tell me how wonderful your existence was, nothing to do with EU USA, MODERN DAY SLAVERY.so get with the real world. thai people are money money money regardless of how they make it, its what separates the west from the east, law enforcement and what the thais have lost now their SMILE, which is now false, and scum like you are the biggest part of the problem, typical blame the whole world for your own problems,

this EU ban is not about slavery. it's about catching too much fish, catching small fish. (according to EU rules). I am against slavery. but also I am against intervention in affairs of independent nations.

The EU ban is an option they have and can use Thailand can keep doing fishing the way they always have just willnot be selling any fish to Eu It is Thailands choice they arenot being forced into changing they are simply being informed keep fishing the way you are and lose sales to EU

again:

Thailand is blackmailed by socialist EU regulators who act against interest of there own electors to impose there sick socialist ideas .

In the free world government should not dictate business what and where it should buy goods, forcing a price grow.

that's why business is running away from EU.

Where is it written that the EU must trade with Thailand? The EU is under no obligation to trade with Thailand. Also Thailand doesnot have to abide by any laws if they so chose. But that could cost Thailand exports is all.. But if Thailand wants to trade with EU they have to become more ethical.

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Where is it written that the EU must trade with Thailand? The EU is under no obligation to trade with Thailand. Also Thailand doesnot have to abide by any laws if they so chose. But that could cost Thailand exports is all.. But if Thailand wants to trade with EU they have to become more ethical.

I don't speak about obligation. I speak about EU socialist establishment acting against interests of there own electors. small group of interest - EU fishermen want to get more profit and manipulate the whole EU to stop the flow of cheap Thai seafood. rules of fishing is just an excuse in order to pump dying (because of ridiculously high salaries, taxes and over regulation) EU fish industry with more people's money.

EU message to Thailand is : "produce less, with higher production costs and we will let business to buy some. otherwise our producers can't compete with you"

same as French government pressing charges against cheaper Ubertaxi because a small but powerful group of influence - french taxi drivers - blackmail the government. And as a result all other people are forced to pay more for a crappy service. 70 euros for a 40 km trip, for example. wonderful price! This is how socialism works.

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Where is it written that the EU must trade with Thailand? The EU is under no obligation to trade with Thailand. Also Thailand doesnot have to abide by any laws if they so chose. But that could cost Thailand exports is all.. But if Thailand wants to trade with EU they have to become more ethical.

I don't speak about obligation. I speak about EU socialist establishment acting against interests of there own electors. small group of interest - EU fishermen want to get more profit and manipulate the whole EU to stop the flow of cheap Thai seafood. rules of fishing is just an excuse in order to pump dying (because of ridiculously high salaries, taxes and over regulation) EU fish industry with more people's money.

EU message to Thailand is : "produce less, with higher production costs and we will let business to buy some. otherwise our producers can't compete with you"

same as French government pressing charges against cheaper Ubertaxi because a small but powerful group of influence - french taxi drivers - blackmail the government. And as a result all other people are forced to pay more for a crappy service. 70 euros for a 40 km trip, for example. wonderful price! This is how socialism works.

The fact that the Thai seafood is cheap because they use slave labor, kidnap, hoodwinked and sometimes murdered, have no concern about Health and Safety and don't give a monkey's toss about the environment, conservation and grossly over fishing to the point of extinction is completely irrelevant to you it seems.

The big MNC's have shown how they can be trusted to self regulate and act in the interests of all stakeholders; all food companies and those involved in the supply chains are really responsible and don't need legislation to hinder their already conservation and fair to all business strategies. Just ask Monsanto and those European suppliers caught putting horse meat into beef products.

Guess we should de-regulate nuclear energy generation and reactor building - then we could all enjoy cheap electricity; and de-regulate aviation - that would lead to cheap really safe flights as airlines are always so responsible in their behavior, just like their crews, ask Air India.

Every market, for all good, as shown that left unregulated those involved maximize profits regardless of consequences. There is a balance for sure, and it's hard to find. The EU get a lot wrong - but really, putting your trust in the responsible behavior of the Thai fishing fleet owners - says a lot about your judgement.

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"I cannot say when the seafood markets will resume their business. It depends solely on the government decision. If the government continues its strict enforcement of fishery regulations, without allowing trawler owners more time to prepare, there will be no seafood in the market," Monkol said."

No, it depends on the fishing owners obeying the regulations. They don't need more time, rather they need to stop trying to wriggle out of their responsibilities.

Correct. This hooligan Monkol is accustomed to having zero regulation and all of a sudden he now pushes all of the blame onto the govt. If the govt is finally cracking down, kudos to them. Bravo. Overdue. Take responsibility, you super freak. Encourage your members to behave like real men. If they are operating outside of the law, shut them down. Nothing wrong with a little discipline. Using scare tactics is what half men do. It is not the workings of a mature or rational mind.

Funny how this creep never mentions the possibility of over fishing as being a potential source of the problem?

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Where is it written that the EU must trade with Thailand? The EU is under no obligation to trade with Thailand. Also Thailand doesnot have to abide by any laws if they so chose. But that could cost Thailand exports is all.. But if Thailand wants to trade with EU they have to become more ethical.

I don't speak about obligation. I speak about EU socialist establishment acting against interests of there own electors. small group of interest - EU fishermen want to get more profit and manipulate the whole EU to stop the flow of cheap Thai seafood. rules of fishing is just an excuse in order to pump dying (because of ridiculously high salaries, taxes and over regulation) EU fish industry with more people's money.

EU message to Thailand is : "produce less, with higher production costs and we will let business to buy some. otherwise our producers can't compete with you"

same as French government pressing charges against cheaper Ubertaxi because a small but powerful group of influence - french taxi drivers - blackmail the government. And as a result all other people are forced to pay more for a crappy service. 70 euros for a 40 km trip, for example. wonderful price! This is how socialism works.

The fact that the Thai seafood is cheap because they use slave labor, kidnap, hoodwinked and sometimes murdered, have no concern about Health and Safety and don't give a monkey's toss about the environment, conservation and grossly over fishing to the point of extinction is completely irrelevant to you it seems.

The big MNC's have shown how they can be trusted to self regulate and act in the interests of all stakeholders; all food companies and those involved in the supply chains are really responsible and don't need legislation to hinder their already conservation and fair to all business strategies. Just ask Monsanto and those European suppliers caught putting horse meat into beef products.

Guess we should de-regulate nuclear energy generation and reactor building - then we could all enjoy cheap electricity; and de-regulate aviation - that would lead to cheap really safe flights as airlines are always so responsible in their behavior, just like their crews, ask Air India.

Every market, for all good, as shown that left unregulated those involved maximize profits regardless of consequences. There is a balance for sure, and it's hard to find. The EU get a lot wrong - but really, putting your trust in the responsible behavior of the Thai fishing fleet owners - says a lot about your judgement.

mixing fishing with other food production or nuclear plants is a dirtiest manipulation. Monsanto or Google or Air India have nothing to do with fishing. if you catch a fish - you can't secretly contaminate it, on the buyer's end it will be easy to determine (by simple analysis) if, for example, freezing process was altered.

and again, this EU ban is officially about rules of fishing, sizes of nets etc, not about slavery. another manipulation.

in case of fish industry EU acts completely against interests of it's own consumers (because EU electors don't care neither about EU fishers, nor about rules of fishing in Thailand, they just want a cheap fish), forcing them to pay more in order to make EU fish industry profitable - because EU fish manufacturers have much more influence on EU regulators than average consumers. this is the one and only reason.

same as Ubertaxi in Paris (I wrote it before), same as Greek olives, for example - EU government imposed very high taxes on olives from Tunisia in order to make Greek and Cyprus olive manufacturers succeed.

and where are them now?

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Where is it written that the EU must trade with Thailand? The EU is under no obligation to trade with Thailand. Also Thailand doesnot have to abide by any laws if they so chose. But that could cost Thailand exports is all.. But if Thailand wants to trade with EU they have to become more ethical.

I don't speak about obligation. I speak about EU socialist establishment acting against interests of there own electors. small group of interest - EU fishermen want to get more profit and manipulate the whole EU to stop the flow of cheap Thai seafood. rules of fishing is just an excuse in order to pump dying (because of ridiculously high salaries, taxes and over regulation) EU fish industry with more people's money.

EU message to Thailand is : "produce less, with higher production costs and we will let business to buy some. otherwise our producers can't compete with you"

same as French government pressing charges against cheaper Ubertaxi because a small but powerful group of influence - french taxi drivers - blackmail the government. And as a result all other people are forced to pay more for a crappy service. 70 euros for a 40 km trip, for example. wonderful price! This is how socialism works.

The fact that the Thai seafood is cheap because they use slave labor, kidnap, hoodwinked and sometimes murdered, have no concern about Health and Safety and don't give a monkey's toss about the environment, conservation and grossly over fishing to the point of extinction is completely irrelevant to you it seems.

The big MNC's have shown how they can be trusted to self regulate and act in the interests of all stakeholders; all food companies and those involved in the supply chains are really responsible and don't need legislation to hinder their already conservation and fair to all business strategies. Just ask Monsanto and those European suppliers caught putting horse meat into beef products.

Guess we should de-regulate nuclear energy generation and reactor building - then we could all enjoy cheap electricity; and de-regulate aviation - that would lead to cheap really safe flights as airlines are always so responsible in their behavior, just like their crews, ask Air India.

Every market, for all good, as shown that left unregulated those involved maximize profits regardless of consequences. There is a balance for sure, and it's hard to find. The EU get a lot wrong - but really, putting your trust in the responsible behavior of the Thai fishing fleet owners - says a lot about your judgement.

mixing fishing with other food production or nuclear plants is a dirtiest manipulation. Monsanto or Google or Air India have nothing to do with fishing. if you catch a fish - you can't secretly contaminate it, on the buyer's end it will be easy to determine (by simple analysis) if, for example, freezing process was altered.

and again, this EU ban is officially about rules of fishing, sizes of nets etc, not about slavery. another manipulation.

in case of fish industry EU acts completely against interests of it's own consumers (because EU electors don't care neither about EU fishers, nor about rules of fishing in Thailand, they just want a cheap fish), forcing them to pay more in order to make EU fish industry profitable - because EU fish manufacturers have much more influence on EU regulators than average consumers. this is the one and only reason.

same as Ubertaxi in Paris (I wrote it before), same as Greek olives, for example - EU government imposed very high taxes on olives from Tunisia in order to make Greek and Cyprus olive manufacturers succeed.

and where are them now?

A, so you can use Ubertaxi in Paris as an example but others can't use other food production as an example because it is manipulation.

And 'against interest of it's own consumers'? Don't think so, this is part of the way to make the industry more sustainable, so in the interest of everybody.

Get a grip on yourself please and stop sprouting all this nonsense.

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mixing fishing with other food production or nuclear plants is a dirtiest manipulation. Monsanto or Google or Air India have nothing to do with fishing. if you catch a fish - you can't secretly contaminate it, on the buyer's end it will be easy to determine (by simple analysis) if, for example, freezing process was altered.

and again, this EU ban is officially about rules of fishing, sizes of nets etc, not about slavery. another manipulation.

in case of fish industry EU acts completely against interests of it's own consumers (because EU electors don't care neither about EU fishers, nor about rules of fishing in Thailand, they just want a cheap fish), forcing them to pay more in order to make EU fish industry profitable - because EU fish manufacturers have much more influence on EU regulators than average consumers. this is the one and only reason.

same as Ubertaxi in Paris (I wrote it before), same as Greek olives, for example - EU government imposed very high taxes on olives from Tunisia in order to make Greek and Cyprus olive manufacturers succeed.

and where are them now?

A, so you can use Ubertaxi in Paris as an example but others can't use other food production as an example because it is manipulation.

And 'against interest of it's own consumers'? Don't think so, this is part of the way to make the industry more sustainable, so in the interest of everybody.

Get a grip on yourself please and stop sprouting all this nonsense.

I can use Ubertaxi because it's a correct example - same quality (actually even better, much much better) and cheaper price.

was there any quality claims for Thai seafood? no

"make the industry more sustainable" is in interest of those who work in EU fish industry. and nobody's else.

Same as prosecuting Ubertaxi is in interest of a few rude fat cats - Paris taxi drivers. and nobody's else

don't lie to yourself

"Get a grip on yourself please and stop sprouting all this nonsense." does it mean that you answered me and I shouldn't answer you back? how charming!

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mixing fishing with other food production or nuclear plants is a dirtiest manipulation. Monsanto or Google or Air India have nothing to do with fishing. if you catch a fish - you can't secretly contaminate it, on the buyer's end it will be easy to determine (by simple analysis) if, for example, freezing process was altered.

and again, this EU ban is officially about rules of fishing, sizes of nets etc, not about slavery. another manipulation.

in case of fish industry EU acts completely against interests of it's own consumers (because EU electors don't care neither about EU fishers, nor about rules of fishing in Thailand, they just want a cheap fish), forcing them to pay more in order to make EU fish industry profitable - because EU fish manufacturers have much more influence on EU regulators than average consumers. this is the one and only reason.

same as Ubertaxi in Paris (I wrote it before), same as Greek olives, for example - EU government imposed very high taxes on olives from Tunisia in order to make Greek and Cyprus olive manufacturers succeed.

and where are them now?

A, so you can use Ubertaxi in Paris as an example but others can't use other food production as an example because it is manipulation.

And 'against interest of it's own consumers'? Don't think so, this is part of the way to make the industry more sustainable, so in the interest of everybody.

Get a grip on yourself please and stop sprouting all this nonsense.

I can use Ubertaxi because it's a correct example - same quality (actually even better, much much better) and cheaper price.

was there any quality claims for Thai seafood? no

"make the industry more sustainable" is in interest of those who work in EU fish industry. and nobody's else.

Same as prosecuting Ubertaxi is in interest of a few rude fat cats - Paris taxi drivers. and nobody's else

don't lie to yourself

"Get a grip on yourself please and stop sprouting all this nonsense." does it mean that you answered me and I shouldn't answer you back? how charming!

Ubertaxi is actually a perfect example as you are using one unlicensed, illegal service to satisfy you're thoughts on another predominantly unlicensed and illegal service. Half the Thai fishing fleet!

The oceans are over fished its in EVERYONE'S interest that some things are done to alleviate that. No?

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I can use Ubertaxi because it's a correct example - same quality (actually even better, much much better) and cheaper price.

was there any quality claims for Thai seafood? no

"make the industry more sustainable" is in interest of those who work in EU fish industry. and nobody's else.

Same as prosecuting Ubertaxi is in interest of a few rude fat cats - Paris taxi drivers. and nobody's else

don't lie to yourself

"Get a grip on yourself please and stop sprouting all this nonsense." does it mean that you answered me and I shouldn't answer you back? how charming!

Ubertaxi is actually a perfect example as you are using one unlicensed, illegal service to satisfy you're thoughts on another predominantly unlicensed and illegal service. Half the Thai fishing fleet!

The oceans are over fished its in EVERYONE'S interest that some things are done to alleviate that. No?

and the cost of license in Paris is houndreds of thousand euros. this is what's called socialist over regulation. it's not normal that 40 km drive costs 70 euros. because the net cost of it - less than 10. but, for sure, it's very good for Paris taxi drivers who rip off there customers. and not to loose there profit they attack not just Ubertaxi drivers but even CUSTOMERS who dared not to use there service. this is how gangs do there business

this is what paradise means for you?

about fishing. so why does not EU impose these rules to EVERYONE -Indonesia, China, Vietnam, Philippines, Cambodia, Malaysia, South Korea, North Korea and others? because they can't?

so EU is like a school bully - find somebody dependable to show his power. as a result a fish which will not be caught by Thai fishermen will be caught by Vietnamese.

But EU will be happy...

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I can use Ubertaxi because it's a correct example - same quality (actually even better, much much better) and cheaper price.

was there any quality claims for Thai seafood? no

"make the industry more sustainable" is in interest of those who work in EU fish industry. and nobody's else.

Same as prosecuting Ubertaxi is in interest of a few rude fat cats - Paris taxi drivers. and nobody's else

don't lie to yourself

"Get a grip on yourself please and stop sprouting all this nonsense." does it mean that you answered me and I shouldn't answer you back? how charming!

Ubertaxi is actually a perfect example as you are using one unlicensed, illegal service to satisfy you're thoughts on another predominantly unlicensed and illegal service. Half the Thai fishing fleet!

The oceans are over fished its in EVERYONE'S interest that some things are done to alleviate that. No?

and the cost of license in Paris is houndreds of thousand euros. this is what's called socialist over regulation. it's not normal that 40 km drive costs 70 euros. because the net cost of it - less than 10. but, for sure, it's very good for Paris taxi drivers who rip off there customers. and not to loose there profit they attack not just Ubertaxi drivers but even CUSTOMERS who dared not to use there service. this is how gangs do there business

this is what paradise means for you?

about fishing. so why does not EU impose these rules to EVERYONE -Indonesia, China, Vietnam, Philippines, Cambodia, Malaysia, South Korea, North Korea and others? because they can't?

so EU is like a school bully - find somebody dependable to show his power. as a result a fish which will not be caught by Thai fishermen will be caught by Vietnamese.

But EU will be happy...

They do yellow and red card other countries

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