Prostitution: Thailand's worst kept secret

[brling]

Wrong again. You are an outcast, only because you went to Pattaya and bought a cheap Surin prostitute (with baggage). What do you expect?

Rumours in Germany have it that all Thai bar girls are prostitutes,

That is the most stupid reply ever to be posted on this forum. Yes " all Thai bar girls are prostitutes". The word prostitute is too harsh for the PC cowards who choose a prostitute for a parnter / wife.

[micmichd]

Wrong again. You are an outcast, only because you went to Pattaya and bought a cheap Surin prostitute (with baggage). What do you expect?

Rumours in Germany have it that all Thai bar girls are prostitutes,

That is the most stupid reply ever to be posted on this forum. Yes " all Thai bar girls are prostitutes". The word prostitute is too harsh for the PC cowards who choose a prostitute for a parnter / wife.

of course, you know all Thai bar girls...

or do you mean just the ones you could get?

Edited July 14, 2015 by micmichd

[ravip]

Prostitution: Thailand’s worst kept secret

Compared to some other nations worst kept secrets, is this bad?

[micmichd]

Prostitution: Thailands worst kept secret

Compared to some other nations worst kept secrets, is this bad?

No, the making of "terrorists" in Guantanamo was worse.

[brling]

Wrong again. You are an outcast, only because you went to Pattaya and bought a cheap Surin prostitute (with baggage). What do you expect?

If you can't accept that people can change and societies develop, then I wonder what you're doing in a developing country like Thailand.

I expect respect.

What, you "expect respect", are you serious ? You went to Pattaya and it was your choice to buy a prostitute (with baggage) from Surin, and you want "RESPECT" ?

[micmichd]

Wrong again. You are an outcast, only because you went to Pattaya and bought a cheap Surin prostitute (with baggage). What do you expect?

If you can't accept that people can change and societies develop, then I wonder what you're doing in a developing country like Thailand.

I expect respect.

What, you "expect respect", are you serious ? You went to Pattaya and it was your choice to buy a prostitute (with baggage) from Surin, and you want "RESPECT" ?

Yes, I want respect for the lady you so kindly refer to as a "prostitute (with baggage)", and I want respect gir tge "baggage", too. So, hands off!

If you can't understand it, then you've probably never been in Thailand.

Edited July 14, 2015 by micmichd

[anon4546543]

Prostitution: Thailands worst kept secret

Compared to some other nations worst kept secrets, is this bad?

No, the making of "terrorists" in Guantanamo was worse.

No the gulags in Russia were worse. And the invasion of Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine, shooting down a commercial Malaysian aircraft, supporting terrorists around the globe.. I could go on.

[micmichd]

Prostitution: Thailands worst kept secret

Compared to some other nations worst kept secrets, is this bad?

No, the making of "terrorists" in Guantanamo was worse.

No the gulags in Russia were worse. And the invasion of Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine, shooting down a commercial Malaysian aircraft, supporting terrorists around the globe.. I could go on.

Agree on gulag, the rest is propaganda. Edited July 14, 2015 by micmichd

[micmichd]

Prostitution: Thailands worst kept secret

Compared to some other nations worst kept secrets, is this bad?

No, the making of "terrorists" in Guantanamo was worse.

No the gulags in Russia were worse. And the invasion of Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine, shooting down a commercial Malaysian aircraft, supporting terrorists around the globe.. I could go on.

Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine are heritage of former colonization by Tsard and USSR, and no secret at all.

But if you want to go back to last centuries, of course, then please also add the Holocaust.

[green job]

Wrong again. You are an outcast, only because you went to Pattaya and bought a cheap Surin prostitute (with baggage). What do you expect?

If you can't accept that people can change and societies develop, then I wonder what you're doing in a developing country like Thailand.

I expect respect.

What, you "expect respect", are you serious ? You went to Pattaya and it was your choice to buy a prostitute (with baggage) from Surin, and you want "RESPECT" ?

You are well out of order,,,

[ravip]

Wrong again. You are an outcast, only because you went to Pattaya and bought a cheap Surin prostitute (with baggage). What do you expect?

If you can't accept that people can change and societies develop, then I wonder what you're doing in a developing country like Thailand.

I expect respect.

What, you "expect respect", are you serious ? You went to Pattaya and it was your choice to buy a prostitute (with baggage) from Surin, and you want "RESPECT" ?

You are well out of order,,,

So says a citizen from a developed country.

I wonder what the correct meaning of 'Developed' - very difficult for an undeveloped person to understand.

[green job]

Ravip You are also well out of order. So dont try it on with me OK You know what I was talking about,not the post about developed

[Oil Baron]

I once unwittingly stumbled upon a Thai-on-Thai prostitution encounter. I live in Samut Prakarn and was walking towards the elevator in my local Tesco. I was walking behind an overweight middle-aged Thai man. There was a young lady dressed in the standard Thai university uniform of white shirt and black skirt. I got to see the whole exchange play out in front of me, where she introduced herself to the older guy and he asked if she'd been waiting long. I don't understand that much Thai but it was pretty obvious what was going on. They just walked off hand in hand looking like father and daughter. I was left wondering how they set that up, maybe online.

555! Good one! I bet you'd love a bit of that action! What guy wouldn't?

And yes, it's all prearranged online. I heard about this sort of thing years ago. Actually, it's common practice. I know girls that have done it. Some of them get their masters, a car and a condo out of it too.

Good luck to them I say.

[micmichd]

Farang women use online dating, too. The overwhelming majority of my Skype contacts are American or European women.

Thai ladies did just learn how to use modern media, and they are learning very fast.

[jacky54]

So, what?

About every bar in the world is full of people who go to there to chat with friends and eventually look for sex. In most places I know men pay for ladies, be it some drink or the taxi home, according to the difference in wealth. And next morning they wake up and either still love their girl or leave her. What's the big difference in Thailand?

Stop trying to justify your prostitute partner, and soon to be wife, with buying a drink for a woman in a pub in your home country. From your posts on this forum your partner was a prostitute from Issan, working in a bar / brothal in Pattaya. Only a fool would compare a hard core Issan prostitute, to a regular woman from your country.

Have you EVER had a conversation with Issan ladies, and what is this about brothels? Girls in the farang scene don't work in brothels.

There is a 'club' on Sukhumvit soi 7/1 that I would describe as a brothel, that being a house of prostitutes where they cannot refuse a customer.

[micmichd]

Girls in the Farang scene don't work in brothels?

You must be joking or blind. There are more prostitutes per capita in Germany than in Thailand.

And as soon if they look for a new waitress in a Farang bar, then a big crowd of Farang girls will show up to get the job.

It's all about the money, honey, and I will not stop to compare.

Isaan ladies are simply the better women, both physically and socially.

You know what I think about Farangs that permanently bash them?

You could neither get a woman in Farangistan nor in Thailand, that's why you are so bitter.

[jerojero]

Virtually every country has prostitution. Escorts, bar girls, brothels, back rooms of bars. Why is Thailand's any different or more of a secret. Love the way this topic brings out the holier-than-thou spouting by some on this forum. Live and let live, and don't think that western culture is so much better than Thai.... Including as professional prostitution.

[brling]

Isaan ladies are simply the better women, both physically and socially.

You know what I think about Farangs that permanently bash them?

You could neither get a woman in Farangistan nor in Thailand, that's why you are so bitter.

Surely it is YOU that could not get a woman in "farangistan" nor Thailand. It was You that went to Pattaya and bought a cheap prostitute from Surin with "baggage" Any lonlely loser can pay for a prostitute.

[micmichd]

Dear brling,

as you probably know, not everyone can be a big winner like you.

And of course, not everyone would be so expensive like you.

Just for the record:

What would be your price (without baggage) ?

[Mazungu]

Finance teaches…if an asset appreciates you should own it…if an asset depreciates you should rent it…so if it flies, floats or f@cks you should rent.

[djayz]

Don't understand what all the fuss is about - prostitution is the world's oldest trade AND it exists in every country on the planet - in some form or another. What's the big deal? It keeps millions of people fed and millions of men satisfied.

[elliss]

Prostitution in Thailand , really ??

I tell my folks and friends back home , I come to Thailand , for the err , climate, temples , scenery ,

and not forgetting the elephant treks .

Why do they all think , I go to Thailand because sex is cheap and easy to have .

Really upsets me, so mush . kap.

[bendejo]

How secret can it be when it is advertised in the tourist brochures they give out at the airport?

[brewsterbudgen]

How secret can it be when it is advertised in the tourist brochures they give out at the airport?

Which prostitutes do they advertise?

[cumgranosalum]

Don't understand what all the fuss is about - prostitution is the world's oldest trade AND it exists in every country on the planet - in some form or another. What's the big deal? It keeps millions of people fed and millions of men satisfied.

There are many activities that can be traced back to the beginnings of human history, but that is no justification of them. Take for instance drugs, slavery and human trafficking - the mainstays of prostitution.

“The oldest trade” cliché is in reality nothing more than an attempt by whoremongers to justify their own personality shortcomings....which too date back to the beginnings of human history.

What makes us more than animals is recognising these failings and doing something about them......like working out why we need to exploit women and the poor and denigrate sex to a commercial transaction.

the problem in Thailand is that within the powers that be, many are users of prostitutes so can't bring themselves to admit their own faults and tackle the national problem.....so in a country where prostitution is illegal they are in denial and the trade is a open secret.....together with poverty, all the concomitant evils of exploitation slavery and trafficking.

In the end of course there has to be the recognition that it is not the prostitutes themselves that need prosecuting but primarily the customers and those running the businesses. Get rid of thr e customers and those organising the trade will soon stop when the money runs out.

Edited July 26, 2015 by cumgranosalum

[lovelomsak]

Don't understand what all the fuss is about - prostitution is the world's oldest trade AND it exists in every country on the planet - in some form or another. What's the big deal? It keeps millions of people fed and millions of men satisfied.

There are many activities that can be traced back to the beginnings of human history, but that is no justification of them. Take for instance drugs, slavery and human trafficking - the mainstays of prostitution.

“The oldest trade” cliché is in reality nothing more than an attempt by whoremongers to justify their own personality shortcomings....which too date back to the beginnings of human history.

What makes us more than animals is recognising these failings and doing something about them......like working out why we need to exploit women and the poor and denigrate sex to a commercial transaction.

the problem in Thailand is that within the powers that be, many are users of prostitutes so can't bring themselves to admit their own faults and tackle the national problem.....so in a country where prostitution is illegal they are in denial and the trade is a open secret.....together with poverty, all the concomitant evils of exploitation slavery and trafficking.

In the end of course there has to be the recognition that it is not the prostitutes themselves that need prosecuting but primarily the customers and those running the businesses. Get rid of thr e customers and those organising the trade will soon stop when the money runs out.

I agree with everything you said until the last paragragh I always felt the men were the really the used people in the transaction of women selling sex . I feel take away the product you donot have customers.. I think prostitution was here long before drugs,slavery and trafficking. It was formed around women exploiting men.

Edited July 26, 2015 by lovelomsak

[micmichd]

Don't understand what all the fuss is about - prostitution is the world's oldest trade AND it exists in every country on the planet - in some form or another. What's the big deal? It keeps millions of people fed and millions of men satisfied.

There are many activities that can be traced back to the beginnings of human history, but that is no justification of them. Take for instance drugs, slavery and human trafficking - the mainstays of prostitution.

“The oldest trade” cliché is in reality nothing more than an attempt by whoremongers to justify their own personality shortcomings....which too date back to the beginnings of human history.

What makes us more than animals is recognising these failings and doing something about them......like working out why we need to exploit women and the poor and denigrate sex to a commercial transaction.

the problem in Thailand is that within the powers that be, many are users of prostitutes so can't bring themselves to admit their own faults and tackle the national problem.....so in a country where prostitution is illegal they are in denial and the trade is a open secret.....together with poverty, all the concomitant evils of exploitation slavery and trafficking.

In the end of course there has to be the recognition that it is not the prostitutes themselves that need prosecuting but primarily the customers and those running the businesses. Get rid of thr e customers and those organising the trade will soon stop when the money runs out.

There are biological facts behind sexual behaviour.

Human females can have sex any time they want. Human males can spread their genes to various females in a short time, while females can only get one sperm "to shoot". Like it or not, it is like that.

Calling for a "super-biological" attitude or making prostitution illegal is a doubtful solution.

The Swedish model (criminalize male customers) did not really work, the Catholic model (criminalize prostitutes) did not work, nor did the Dutch and German model (legalize prostitution). All models could not end discrimination and denigration of sex (and the ones that engage in sex)

Only the few years of the "sexual revolution" area interrupted this. AIDS stopped it.

Not suggesting AIDS was an invention from the church, but it came like heaven sent for those Puritans that actually always preached that sex was a sin.

Exploitment of biological facts is a different issue.

I simply can't see a necessary causality between biology and human trafficking or pimping. The fact that both come together in many cases does not prove that is has to be that way. In fact, the exploitment argument is the modern argument of denying Farangs to have sex with Thai women, but "liberal" Puritanism is still "Puritanism"

If you consider prostitution a way of healing sexual frustration, and if you can imagine sexual healing without human trafficking, then legalizing (contemporary) prostitution might be oK.

Human trafficking does not have to be made illegal in countries like Holland or Germany. It is already illegal in internatioanl laws. They only have to be applied - even if it is against the economic interest of a few.

[Linzz]

Don't understand what all the fuss is about - prostitution is the world's oldest trade AND it exists in every country on the planet - in some form or another. What's the big deal? It keeps millions of people fed and millions of men satisfied.

There are many activities that can be traced back to the beginnings of human history, but that is no justification of them. Take for instance drugs, slavery and human trafficking - the mainstays of prostitution.

“The oldest trade” cliché is in reality nothing more than an attempt by whoremongers to justify their own personality shortcomings....which too date back to the beginnings of human history.

What makes us more than animals is recognising these failings and doing something about them......like working out why we need to exploit women and the poor and denigrate sex to a commercial transaction.

the problem in Thailand is that within the powers that be, many are users of prostitutes so can't bring themselves to admit their own faults and tackle the national problem.....so in a country where prostitution is illegal they are in denial and the trade is a open secret.....together with poverty, all the concomitant evils of exploitation slavery and trafficking.

In the end of course there has to be the recognition that it is not the prostitutes themselves that need prosecuting but primarily the customers and those running the businesses. Get rid of thr e customers and those organising the trade will soon stop when the money runs out.

I agree with everything you said until the last paragragh I always felt the men were the really the used people in the transaction of women selling sex . I feel take away the product you donot have customers.. I think prostitution was here long before drugs,slavery and trafficking. It was formed around women exploiting men.

And also men exploiting women to exploit men

[Mazungu]

I agree sex trafficking and underage girls should be abolished from the sex trade. But I’m in favor of a regulated sex industry. The sex drive is the one of the strongest (if not the strongest) natural desires a man has. A man is built that way through evolution to keep the species thriving. It will not be “corrected” through Utopian ideas of man meets woman and they fall in love and live out the rest of their lives in monogamous matrimony. If you study evolutionary psychology/biology you will see how men and women are different on many levels but particularly about sex and the selection of sexual partners.

For those wanting to learn more I suggest the following links to informative articles:

http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/11/economics-prostitution-marriage_cx_mn_money06_0214prostitution.html

http://www.canadiancrc.com/newspaper_articles/Time_Magazine_infidelity_in_genes_15AUG94.aspx

“There is no dispute among evolutionary psychologists over the basic source of this male open-mindedness. A woman, regardless of how many sex partners she has, can generally have only one offspring a year. For a man, each new mate offers a real chance for pumping genes into the future. According to the Guinness Book of Records, the most prolific human parent in world history was Moulay ("The Bloodthirsty") Ismail, the last Sharifian Emperor of Morocco, who died in 1727. He fathered more than 1,000 children. This logic behind undiscerning male lust seems obvious now, but it wasn't always. Darwin had noted that in species after species the female is "less eager than the male," but he never figured out why. Only in the late 1960s and early 1970s did biologists George Williams and Robert Trivers attribute the raging libido of males to their nearly infinite potential rate of reproduction.”

And yes, “supermodels do prefer aging billionaires. And Gary Becker proved it mathematically decades before The Donald married Melania.”

[cumgranosalum]

Don't understand what all the fuss is about - prostitution is the world's oldest trade AND it exists in every country on the planet - in some form or another. What's the big deal? It keeps millions of people fed and millions of men satisfied.

There are many activities that can be traced back to the beginnings of human history, but that is no justification of them. Take for instance drugs, slavery and human trafficking - the mainstays of prostitution.

“The oldest trade” cliché is in reality nothing more than an attempt by whoremongers to justify their own personality shortcomings....which too date back to the beginnings of human history.

What makes us more than animals is recognising these failings and doing something about them......like working out why we need to exploit women and the poor and denigrate sex to a commercial transaction.

the problem in Thailand is that within the powers that be, many are users of prostitutes so can't bring themselves to admit their own faults and tackle the national problem.....so in a country where prostitution is illegal they are in denial and the trade is a open secret.....together with poverty, all the concomitant evils of exploitation slavery and trafficking.

In the end of course there has to be the recognition that it is not the prostitutes themselves that need prosecuting but primarily the customers and those running the businesses. Get rid of thr e customers and those organising the trade will soon stop when the money runs out.

I agree with everything you said until the last paragragh I always felt the men were the really the used people in the transaction of women selling sex . I feel take away the product you donot have customers.. I think prostitution was here long before drugs,slavery and trafficking. It was formed around women exploiting men.

A misogynist speaks! From your post I'd say you have issues that need addressing.