Jonathan Fairfield Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The Islamization of Thailand BANGKOK:-- The perceived relative homogeneity of Thai culture and society is being challenged on multiple fronts today. So much has been said about the socio-economic division within Thai society, epitomized by the ‘red’ versus ‘yellow’ shirt movements, and political outcomes over the last decade and a half. However very little is said, publicly anyway, about the growing influence upon society that Thailand’s Muslim population is now projecting at many levels. The current Muslim population of Thailand is between 5-6%, depending upon which set of statistics you consult. This consists of a number of dispersed ethnic groups throughout the country. About 18% of Thailand’s Muslims live within the Southern provinces of Songkhla, Satun, Pattani, Yala, and Narathiwat, who are primarily of the Malay, Javanese, and Acehnese origins, agricultural based, that practice the ‘Malay’ culture. These groups are domiciled around what was the former Greater Petanni Sultanate that came to being around 9th Century and was annexed by Thailand in 1909 from British influence. Read more: http://asiancorrespondent.com/134054/the-islamization-of-thailand/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob8891 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 How on earth is this the "islamisation of Thailand"? Good God, it must be a slow day for news.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Everywhere the same problem. Muslims get more children than Buddhists or Christs. Moderate Muslims also get less children than radical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Some stories contain BS. Some stories are BS. This story however is in a world class standard of BS all of its own. Edited July 15, 2015 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) "Read more: http://asiancorrespo...on-of-thailand/" I did and wish I hadn't. Edited July 15, 2015 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 "Read more: http://asiancorrespo...on-of-thailand/" I did and wish I hadn't. that link links back to Thaivisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamer Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 "Read more: http://asiancorrespo...on-of-thailand/" I did and wish I hadn't. that link links back to Thaivisa It does. Correct link below. http://asiancorrespondent.com/134054/the-islamization-of-thailand/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 "Read more: http://asiancorrespo...on-of-thailand/" I did and wish I hadn't. that link links back to Thaivisa Click on it on the bottom of the OP it takes you to the rest of the turgid BS that passes for journalism in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Althought the relevant article is piffle, this is an issue that is very much alive for Phuket. It is also one facet of the many reasons why I recently chose to move from the Island. There is another popular thread running talking about how dead Patong is at the moment. That may be true but what has not been discussed is the significant shift in the demographic of the visitors to Phuket. There is a huge influx of chinese. That is a given. But they are zero dollar tourists, who rarely venture out of their packaged group environment to interface with workaday thai folk. If the Chinese stock market continues to tank then these visitors may well dry up, or if they tire of the scams, for example being bused in to a mall to buy latex products that were imported from China and then put in a bag labelled made in Thailand, they will go elsewhere. But, chinese aside, who are the new source markets for Phuket tourists? What I see on the ground are morrocans, kuwaitees, iranians, and other muslim visitors. A growing trend I have observed is muslim men, with their wifes, walking down Bangla. Why on earth a married muslim would want to walk with his wife on a street filled with prostitutes and bars selling alcohol is beyond me but there you go. As the Chinese dry up, or wise up, to Phuket, the remaining tourist demographic will be Muslim men. Of course they are only staying in Patong for its great mosque. If, in the near future, the bulk of vistors to Phuket are muslim, it would seem safe to assume that the tourist areas will eventually undergo total Islamization. Not a big leap for Kamala, or Bang Tao. Edited July 15, 2015 by Bulldozer Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 the title of the piece is complete non-sense. It's just click baiting... Thailand has an islamic population, ... wow, that's not islamization... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 God Almighty, it's this nonsense again. Basically, halal food is harmless, and kebabs are good. It's not a problem if these kebab shops appear in lots of places. I was pissed out of mind on Friday night, and had a extra-large doner kebab. The only problem being that it cost £7.00, seven pounds, that's a bit over ten US dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Turkish-Doner-Lamb-Kebab2-iStock.jpg God Almighty, it's this nonsense again. Basically, halal food is harmless, and kebabs are good. It's not a problem if these kebab shops appear in lots of places. I was pissed out of mind on Friday night, and had a extra-large doner kebab. The only problem being that it cost £7.00, seven pounds, that's a bit over ten US dollars. Hilarious. The net result of Phuket morphing into an Islamic community is an increased availability of kebabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Althought the relevant article is piffle, this is an issue that is very much alive for Phuket. It is also one facet of the many reasons why I recently chose to move from the Island. There is another popular thread running talking about how dead Patong is at the moment. That may be true but what has not been discussed is the significant shift in the demographic of the visitors to Phuket. There is a huge influx of chinese. That is a given. But they are zero dollar tourists, who rarely venture out of their packaged group environment to interface with workaday thai folk. If the Chinese stock market continues to tank then these visitors may well dry up, or if they tire of the scams, for example being bused in to a mall to buy latex products that were imported from China and then put in a bag labelled made in Thailand, they will go elsewhere. But, chinese aside, who are the new source markets for Phuket tourists? What I see on the ground are morrocans, kuwaitees, iranians, and other muslim visitors. A growing trend I have observed is muslim men, with their wifes, walking down Bangla. Why on earth a married muslim would want to walk with his wife on a street filled with prostitutes and bars selling alcohol is beyond me but there you go. As the Chinese dry up, or wise up, to Phuket, the remaining tourist demographic will be Muslim men. Of course they are only staying in Patong for its great mosque. If, in the near future, the bulk of vistors to Phuket are muslim, it would seem safe to assume that the tourist areas will eventually undergo total Islamization. Not a big leap for Kamala, or Bang Tao. If that is the tourist demographic they are aiming to attract then fair enough, be more Muslim friendly. However the term islaminisation has darker connotations than a method of attracting tourists. This article's title suggests a more sinister meaning and that is pure BS (not your post, which frankly was a more interesting read) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 firstly one has to think that the title is actually happening and then consider it ti be a matter for concern....both are utter tosh so rather a waste of time by the author... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrinus Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Maybe some propaganda but makes for an interesting view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyG Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Basically, halal food is harmless Not if you're a sheep or a chicken it's not. You end up being barbarically slaughtered to satisfy the dictats of a 7th century Arabian war lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Basically, halal food is harmless Not if you're a sheep or a chicken it's not. You end up being barbarically slaughtered to satisfy the dictats of a 7th century Arabian war lord. The butchery of animals is barbaric in any slaughterhouse. As for factory farm chicken sheds, a vision of hell. I lasted one day in one at a farm. Appalling experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Turkish-Doner-Lamb-Kebab2-iStock.jpg God Almighty, it's this nonsense again. Basically, halal food is harmless, and kebabs are good. It's not a problem if these kebab shops appear in lots of places. I was pissed out of mind on Friday night, and had a extra-large doner kebab. The only problem being that it cost £7.00, seven pounds, that's a bit over ten US dollars. It's not harmless. For some people with religious beliefs they cannot consume meat from an animal which was made to suffer at the point of death. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellred Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Maybe some propaganda but makes for an interesting view. This is very worrying. I think this issue needs addressing asap. This is a violent and peaodaphiloc religion which needs to be restrained. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Dear Thailand: welcome to 21st century. BTW according to these numbers, was part of what would become Malaysia for over a thousand years. You ignored and/or abused them for over a century. Gee I wonder why many might want to be part of Malaysia? Time to start treating all citizens with a bit of respect, regardless of religion, culture, language..... actually, past time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Maybe some propaganda but makes for an interesting view. This is very worrying. I think this issue needs addressing asap. This is a violent and peaodaphiloc religion which needs to be restrained. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I suspect that description applies to the above poster too...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Turkish-Doner-Lamb-Kebab2-iStock.jpg God Almighty, it's this nonsense again. Basically, halal food is harmless, and kebabs are good. It's not a problem if these kebab shops appear in lots of places. I was pissed out of mind on Friday night, and had a extra-large doner kebab. The only problem being that it cost £7.00, seven pounds, that's a bit over ten US dollars. It's not harmless. For some people with religious beliefs they cannot consume meat from an animal which was made to suffer at the point of death. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Also some people without religious belief don't want meat that was tortured to death...Me for example. It is bad enough how food animals are treated but halal makes it even worse. Still Kebab is great food, if only I could get a not halal version..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Althought the relevant article is piffle, this is an issue that is very much alive for Phuket. It is also one facet of the many reasons why I recently chose to move from the Island. There is another popular thread running talking about how dead Patong is at the moment. That may be true but what has not been discussed is the significant shift in the demographic of the visitors to Phuket. There is a huge influx of chinese. That is a given. But they are zero dollar tourists, who rarely venture out of their packaged group environment to interface with workaday thai folk. If the Chinese stock market continues to tank then these visitors may well dry up, or if they tire of the scams, for example being bused in to a mall to buy latex products that were imported from China and then put in a bag labelled made in Thailand, they will go elsewhere. But, chinese aside, who are the new source markets for Phuket tourists? What I see on the ground are morrocans, kuwaitees, iranians, and other muslim visitors. A growing trend I have observed is muslim men, with their wifes, walking down Bangla. Why on earth a married muslim would want to walk with his wife on a street filled with prostitutes and bars selling alcohol is beyond me but there you go. As the Chinese dry up, or wise up, to Phuket, the remaining tourist demographic will be Muslim men. Of course they are only staying in Patong for its great mosque. If, in the near future, the bulk of vistors to Phuket are muslim, it would seem safe to assume that the tourist areas will eventually undergo total Islamization. Not a big leap for Kamala, or Bang Tao. If that is the tourist demographic they are aiming to attract then fair enough, be more Muslim friendly. However the term islaminisation has darker connotations than a method of attracting tourists. This article's title suggests a more sinister meaning and that is pure BS (not your post, which frankly was a more interesting read) No it is not the tourism demographic they WANT to attract. There is endless talk about pursuing the QUALITY tourists. But after witnessing, either first hand, or via social media, the environmental degradation, trash and fetid waterways and beaches, road carnage, scams, and taxi mafia, quality tourists no longer visit Phuket. The island is now scraping the very bottom of the tourist barrel. Just before I left phuket I went to a street fair up the back of Patong that had a great traditional Thai puppet show visiting on tour from another province. While standing in the crowd there I noticed a Thai grand father with his daughter and her loog krung son. The grandson clearly had a middle eastern father, but he was no where to be seen. The daughter, who I am guessing from her tatooes worked in a bar had a black eye and a bruised cheek. The bargirls who thought they were doing it tough with their old, fat, drunk western boyfriends are in for a rude shock moving forward. Mohamed aint gonna pony up for no sick buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Turkish-Doner-Lamb-Kebab2-iStock.jpg God Almighty, it's this nonsense again. Basically, halal food is harmless, and kebabs are good. It's not a problem if these kebab shops appear in lots of places. I was pissed out of mind on Friday night, and had a extra-large doner kebab. The only problem being that it cost £7.00, seven pounds, that's a bit over ten US dollars. Be glad you don't know what kind of meat they use for these giro kebabs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Dear Thailand: welcome to 21st century. BTW according to these numbers, was part of what would become Malaysia for over a thousand years. You ignored and/or abused them for over a century. Gee I wonder why many might want to be part of Malaysia? Time to start treating all citizens with a bit of respect, regardless of religion, culture, language..... actually, past time. and the Muslims treat all citizens with respect regardless of religion, culture etc????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Althought the relevant article is piffle, this is an issue that is very much alive for Phuket. It is also one facet of the many reasons why I recently chose to move from the Island. There is another popular thread running talking about how dead Patong is at the moment. That may be true but what has not been discussed is the significant shift in the demographic of the visitors to Phuket. There is a huge influx of chinese. That is a given. But they are zero dollar tourists, who rarely venture out of their packaged group environment to interface with workaday thai folk. If the Chinese stock market continues to tank then these visitors may well dry up, or if they tire of the scams, for example being bused in to a mall to buy latex products that were imported from China and then put in a bag labelled made in Thailand, they will go elsewhere. But, chinese aside, who are the new source markets for Phuket tourists? What I see on the ground are morrocans, kuwaitees, iranians, and other muslim visitors. A growing trend I have observed is muslim men, with their wifes, walking down Bangla. Why on earth a married muslim would want to walk with his wife on a street filled with prostitutes and bars selling alcohol is beyond me but there you go. As the Chinese dry up, or wise up, to Phuket, the remaining tourist demographic will be Muslim men. Of course they are only staying in Patong for its great mosque. If, in the near future, the bulk of vistors to Phuket are muslim, it would seem safe to assume that the tourist areas will eventually undergo total Islamization. Not a big leap for Kamala, or Bang Tao. If that is the tourist demographic they are aiming to attract then fair enough, be more Muslim friendly. However the term islaminisation has darker connotations than a method of attracting tourists. This article's title suggests a more sinister meaning and that is pure BS (not your post, which frankly was a more interesting read) No it is not the tourism demographic they WANT to attract. There is endless talk about pursuing the QUALITY tourists. But after witnessing, either first hand, or via social media, the environmental degradation, trash and fetid waterways and beaches, road carnage, scams, and taxi mafia, quality tourists no longer visit Phuket. The island is now scraping the very bottom of the tourist barrel. Just before I left phuket I went to a street fair up the back of Patong that had a great traditional Thai puppet show visiting on tour from another province. While standing in the crowd there I noticed a Thai grand father with his daughter and her loog krung son. The grandson clearly had a middle eastern father, but he was no where to be seen. The daughter, who I am guessing from her tatooes worked in a bar had a black eye and a bruised cheek. The bargirls who thought they were doing it tough with their old, fat, drunk western boyfriends are in for a rude shock moving forward. Mohamed aint gonna pony up for no sick buffalo. This is the whole thing that irks everyone about the arabs. In everything that they do, they have a deep set need for sadistic forms of death. They don't just kill their enemies they have to do every type of demeaning thing to the corpse that they can. They have zero respect for women whatsoever. In every instance of modern day slavery it is always the arabs. How ironic that they can also produce people like Kahlil Gibran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Maybe some propaganda but makes for an interesting view. That was 2008. The clock's ticking . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamer Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Althought the relevant article is piffle, this is an issue that is very much alive for Phuket. It is also one facet of the many reasons why I recently chose to move from the Island. There is another popular thread running talking about how dead Patong is at the moment. That may be true but what has not been discussed is the significant shift in the demographic of the visitors to Phuket. There is a huge influx of chinese. That is a given. But they are zero dollar tourists, who rarely venture out of their packaged group environment to interface with workaday thai folk. If the Chinese stock market continues to tank then these visitors may well dry up, or if they tire of the scams, for example being bused in to a mall to buy latex products that were imported from China and then put in a bag labelled made in Thailand, they will go elsewhere. But, chinese aside, who are the new source markets for Phuket tourists? What I see on the ground are morrocans, kuwaitees, iranians, and other muslim visitors. A growing trend I have observed is muslim men, with their wifes, walking down Bangla. Why on earth a married muslim would want to walk with his wife on a street filled with prostitutes and bars selling alcohol is beyond me but there you go. As the Chinese dry up, or wise up, to Phuket, the remaining tourist demographic will be Muslim men. Of course they are only staying in Patong for its great mosque. If, in the near future, the bulk of vistors to Phuket are muslim, it would seem safe to assume that the tourist areas will eventually undergo total Islamization. Not a big leap for Kamala, or Bang Tao. I spent some time working in an office in Bond St London near a branch of Victoria's Secret, an erotic lingerie store. A constant stream of limousines from which burka clad females would emerge before exiting with huge amounts of carrier bags. Seeing a London taxi called to take the excess bags was a common occurrence. I'm sure that this was being done not only with hubbies wallet but also his approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Maybe some propaganda but makes for an interesting view. That was 2008. The clock's ticking . . . No it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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