webfact Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Indonesia restricts Thai airlinesBANGKOK: -- The transport minister revealed yesterday that Indonesia has restricted Thai flights to Indonesia but this does not affect current operation by Thai Airways International.The restriction came in a notice Indonesia sent on July 16 to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) prohibiting all Thai airlines flying to Indonesia to add more transits, flights, or change routes, though chartered flights are still allowed as usual, but they would be considered under stricter inspections.Transport Minister Air Chief Marshal Prajin Juntong affirmed the Indonesia’s restriction but assured that the recent move by Indonesia would not disrupt any operations by Thai airlines, as there is only one airline that flies a direct route between Bangkok and Bali, seven flights per week, as well as 10 flights weekly between Jakarta and Bangkok.He said despite the announcement by Indonesia, the current number of flights could still cater to passenger demands.The minister further noted that the national flag carrier, Thai Airways or THAI also has no plans of expanding its routes to and from Indonesia or increase any flights on the routes it already operated.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/indonesia-restricts-thai-airlines -- Thai PBS 2015-07-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 "The minister further noted that the national flag carrier, Thai Airways or THAI also has no plans of expanding its routes to and from Indonesia or increase any flights on the routes it already operated." They don't have that choice as the article clearly states earlier on that "The restriction came in a notice Indonesia sent on July 16 to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) prohibiting all Thai airlines flying to Indonesia to add more transits, flights, or change routes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritzzz25 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Indonesia - one of the worst aviation safety countries in the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 "..there is only one airline that flies a direct route between Bangkok and Bali, seven flights per week, as well as 10 flights weekly between Jakarta and Bangkok." Nice little bit of poli-speak there. Thai Air Asia operates direct flights to Bali 10 times a week, Air Asia Indonesia operates 21 flights per week BKK-Jakarta. Buying your tickets on-line, would you notice the difference in carrier label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawapete Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 When a Thai VIP comes home after a trip to Japan with an illegal (small) gun and watching how it has been handled by the authorities in Thailand any airport receiving planes from Thailand might wonder what the passengers has in their pockets..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Things have come to a pretty pass when Indonesia has the temerity to restrict another country's airlines on the grounds of safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantbkk Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 How embarrassing! Slammed by Indonesia who has lost more airliners than the Germans lost fighters and bombers in WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprq Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Pot calls kettle black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Queen Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The first of many to come I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 This is just one more and there are probably more to come as Thailand never learns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 And yet, LION AIR which is owned by Indonesia can fly around Thailand at prices that make long haul bus rides to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Indonesia - one of the worst aviation safety countries in the world...Oh the irony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 "The minister further noted that the national flag carrier, Thai Airways or THAI also has no plans of expanding its routes to and from Indonesia or increase any flights on the routes it already operated." They don't have that choice as the article clearly states earlier on that "The restriction came in a notice Indonesia sent on July 16 to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) prohibiting all Thai airlines flying to Indonesia to add more transits, flights, or change routes" Rolls off just like water off of a ducks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The flag ship national airline is in serious trouble again, poor management has caused droughts in several regions of the country, roads continue to collapse due to erosion. The EU is threatening to ban fish supply's as this country appears to have serious problems in compliance. The US is still not convinced that Thailand is or has done enough to stem the problem of trafficking. The staple food rice market which suffered badly under Yinglucks rice pledging scheme seems doomed to have yet another bad year. The so called restructuring of the RTP has done little to establish public confidence in the fight against cronyism,nepotism and blatant corruption. Open elections have been postponed for the 4th time and are now scheduled to take place in 2017. One could be excused from the belief that this country is close to the point of collapse, however, according to the TAT the flow of Chinese tourist may well offset all these negative influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Lets all stand and thank the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Would be considered under stricter inspections. Thats the bi word for Thai airlines inspections and safety you name it we do it and with only the best qualified staff in all Asia and can even get a general to tick the boxes if required could anyone possibly ask for more commitment than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippybangkok Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Indonesia - one of the worst aviation safety countries in the world... Yep - maybe its time they publish the findings of the the Air Asia crash. As Elmer Fudd says " deh's sumting wewy wewy fishy going on awound here" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 why should Thailand or there airlines worry about airplane safety?? until the plane crashes all is good. i forgot, Thailand is above the rest of the world and makes it's own rules. the first rule is there are no rules. the planes keep flying, so every thing must be good(HA-HA). all Thailand needs is a rogue pilot to straighten every thing out. the person in charge will be sent to an inactive post and still colect his salery and brown bags. i really wonder how many brown bags have changed hands in the Thailand aircraft and Airport industry over time. gotta be mega mega bucks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I am not sure about now , but a few years back all Indonesia airlines were banned from Europe and Nth America and only allowed into OZ because they used new aircraft and each time they landed they were inspected for airworthiness , this is the kettle calling the pot black , having worked in Indon the only flights were with SIA and some of the horror stories that can be told, you'd never fly again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The world seems to be giving the Thai airline industry a message, are they listening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 How embarrassing! Slammed by Indonesia who has lost more airliners than the Germans lost fighters and bombers in WWII. That doesn't really sound correct. Possibly a little bit of exaggeration maybe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I suspect this has a lot more to do with reducing competition for the home team(s), than safety issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 ..that's what you get for paying people an annual bonus equivalent to 2 years of salary... ...whether they do any actual work or not....whether they are even actually capable of doing any work.... ...20 years of .internal evaluations.... controls and audits.... ...you know the system...'even when you fail...you pass'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Indonesia is a disgusting toilet anyway. Who cares if you can't fly there anymore? Edited July 21, 2015 by Time Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khun custard Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Sempati, Merpati and for a while there Garuda..., I'd only hazard a domestic flight of a day time hoping the skies were cloud free as it was well known that the Suharto years tended to recruit "pilots" from within the ranks who could only navigate by topography and roads!! But gosh, the smell of Kretek cigarettes and Bali Koppie at 30k feet was worth it all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Sempati, Merpati and for a while there Garuda..., I'd only hazard a domestic flight of a day time hoping the skies were cloud free as it was well known that the Suharto years tended to recruit "pilots" from within the ranks who could only navigate by topography and roads!! But gosh, the smell of Kretek cigarettes and Bali Koppie at 30k feet was worth it all!! Oh yeah, Merpati, renown for cancelling flights if there weren't enough bums on seats.Their theme song was "It's Merpati and we'll fly if we want to, fly if we want to........" Sorry, Lesley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 why should Thailand or there airlines worry about airplane safety?? until the plane crashes all is good. i forgot, Thailand is above the rest of the world and makes it's own rules. the first rule is there are no rules. the planes keep flying, so every thing must be good(HA-HA). all Thailand needs is a rogue pilot to straighten every thing out. the person in charge will be sent to an inactive post and still colect his salery and brown bags. i really wonder how many brown bags have changed hands in the Thailand aircraft and Airport industry over time. gotta be mega mega bucks!! You ok now......got that tripe off your chest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael8511 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Guys, isn't it time for you to set down your beer glass and stop complaining about Thai airways. It's not the worse airline, the service is good the only negative is that it's pricy on some routes compare to the government substituted Gulf airlines. Don't understand all this negativity since a lot of you guys live in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 How embarrassing! Slammed by Indonesia who has lost more airliners than the Germans lost fighters and bombers in WWII. That doesn't really sound correct. Possibly a little bit of exaggeration maybe?? It was maybe WW1, typo--hahaha 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 "The minister further noted that the national flag carrier, Thai Airways or THAI also has no plans of expanding its routes to and from Indonesia or increase any flights on the routes it already operated." They don't have that choice as the article clearly states earlier on that "The restriction came in a notice Indonesia sent on July 16 to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) prohibiting all Thai airlines flying to Indonesia to add more transits, flights, or change routes" Pesky foreigners just cannot seem to understand that Thai aviation is different, just like Thai electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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