webfact Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Beer Sales Outpace Economic Growth in Asiaby Jason GaleSuttinee YuvejwattanaBANGKOK: -- Thailand will ban alcohol sales near universities and technical colleges, putting the nation at the forefront of efforts in Asia to curb consumption.Under amendments to the Alcohol Control Act endorsed by the government yesterday and to be implemented nationwide late next month, bars, clubs and retailers will be prohibited from selling alcoholic beverages within a 300-meter (328 yards) radius of colleges. The measures are aimed at promoting a healthy lifestyle and tackling alcohol-related problems, including underage sex, the Ministry of Public Health said.Thailand is moving further than other governments in countering growing demand for alcohol in Asia and the Pacific, the fastest-growing beer market for brewer Heineken NV. The World Health Organization has called for a 10 percent reduction in the harmful use of alcohol by 2025 from 2010 levels, implicating it in more than 200 diseases and injury conditions that the UN agency says kill about 3.3 million people a year.“Thailand has the strongest tradition of trying to curb alcohol consumption and reduce alcohol-related harms,” said Juergen Rehm, professor and chair of addiction policy at the University of Toronto’s Dalla Lana School of Public Health. Full story: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-23/beer-sales-outpace-gdp-as-asia-cracks-down-on-excess -- BloombergBusiness 2015-07-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 RELATED TOPIC: PM orders ban on alcohol sales near universitiesBANGKOK, 23 July 2015 (NNT) - Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha has signed an official announcement from the Prime Minister’s Office banning alcohol sales within 300 meters of universities and vocational colleges. Full story: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/842654-pm-prayut-orders-ban-on-alcohol-sales-near-universities-and-vocational-colleges/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 On my way past the university and the 3 other schools to stop at 7-11. I think everyone should do the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 This will accomplish nothing, just as the current ban on sales during certain hours has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Prohibition in any form does not work. Lived in Arkansas USA a while back, in a dry County. No bars, no alcohol sales whatsoever! Had to drive 10 miles to next County to buy alcohol. The traffic was immense Friday evenings to from that neighboring County. Dozen liquor stores and bars did brisk business from our County citizens. Prohibition simply does not work. Edited July 23, 2015 by jerojero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 There's nothing more encouraging than a crackdown, and I am convinced that this will put a permanent end to problem drinking in Thailand. The usual strict and scrupulous enforcement of these rules will produce a measurable change within weeks. I know when I was young the idea that I would have to travel more than 300m to buy beer would have put me off beer for good, and I'm sure it's the same here. Kudos to the PM for another of his wise decisions: he must be one of the wisest men in Thailand, and that is a high hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAppletons Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yeah, baby! Who doesn't like a good "crackdown"? How many "crackdowns" is this now in the last year? 13, 14, .... ? Maybe the government could have a crackdown on crackdowns! That would count as two crackdowns, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 This will be highly effective, no doubt. The people who buy their alcohol at major department stores and grocery chains will all become non drinkers. I on the other hand always buy my booze at mom and pop corner shops at all hours and holidays, so I'm doomed to remain a drinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huahinjoe Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 my guess is they will go to another place which is 301m far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Crackdowns crack me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy B Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Thailand already has rules in place to deal with this but they just can not seem to stop treating people like children. They have legal alcohol purchasing hours 11am-2pm, 5pm - 12pm. (only enforced at places that have electronic cashier machines - 7/11, Tesco, Big-C, etc ) Every Thai person carries their ID card, why do they not just check it when they are uncertain of the age of the person?? Anyone one wearing a school uniform is supposed to not be able to buy alcohol at a bar or restaurant, by Thai law. They already have fines set in place for any breakage of the law but most restaurants / bars and Ma & Pa shops laugh at it, as it is very rare you will ever see police enforce it. The only times I have struggled to buy buy is on the Buddist holidays...........even my local ma & pa shop do not like to sell me alcohol then but there is always somewhere that will, usually down a quiet little soi that nobody notices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 "prohibited from selling alcoholic beverages within a 300-meter" I have not come across a Thai yet that accurately guess distance. A turn off up the road may be 10 km away yet they will say it is 600 metres. The bank just up the road is 25 km away. The road trip to Khon Kaen from Bangkok is 2 hours according to the cab driver yet it takes over 6 hours. When using distance to enforce a law in Thailand there is bound to be confusion and it is open to abuse. Don't close down or ban alcohol venues. The only real way to stop someone drinking is to change their mindset and attitude. "Dry January" in the UK, the blog "Good Morning Sunday" in Australia and the Ocsober, again in Australia was initiated to create awareness to the issues of drinking and to change the attitude one has towards it. If someone wants a drink then they will find on. If someone doesn't want a drink they can walk past 50 bars and not buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 New booze ban could see Siam Paragon, CentralWorld, Soi Cowboy go dry Above was the title in my inbox, I dont see any reference to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Prohibition in any form does not work. Lived in Arkansas USA a while back, in a dry County. No bars, no alcohol sales whatsoever! Had to drive 10 miles to next County to buy alcohol. The traffic was immense Friday evenings to from that neighboring County. Dozen liquor stores and bars did brisk business from our County citizens. Prohibition simply does not work. Fair point. Every time they try to curb alcohol by prohibition or restricted hours it seems to have the opposite effect. The UK had very restricted hours when I was a young whereas continental Europe didn't. And the UK had far worse problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronwparker Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Prohibition has been tried many times and in many countries-IT DOES NOT WORK. Education is a better answer and drink drive laws which are actually enforced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 This madman will be making Thailand Sharia if he is allowed to stay too much longer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huahinjoe Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 if they only prohibit the selling for retailers, what about all those badboy'z who will bring their own drinks with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 True story, I live in a small Thai village, about 20 metres from a corner store/bar. Drunk people staggering out of the place at all hours, sleeping on the road, and making repeat visits all through the day. One guy used to trade fruit for alcohol, he died. Which does more harm, a place like this or Tesco, where you can't buy alcohol between 14:00 and 17:00 while you're doing your weekly shopping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingmai331 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Tax the hell out of every drop of alcohol. That will decrease consumption. Now 50 baht per can, up the tax so that those 500ml now100 baht and find out who really needs a beer. Then use the revenue for education. And those alco=pops likewise: double/triple the tax and they won't be so tasty. Agree, prohibition won't work but with the high tax it all remains legal, just very expensive. Who needs alcohol? No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Thailand is the biggest consumer of alcohol, in ASEAN. nothing will change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiyaibob Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Another "PM Order" only as good as the Enforcement and we all know how good that is, maybe this is why they say there is a need for 9000 more BiB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ33 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) If I was the owner of a bar within 300 metres of a university or college, I'd be pretty annoyed right now!!But seriously, I was a student in the UK for 3 years (a long time ago) and to a person, I know not a single fellow student who would not willingly walk 300 metres to get a drink if they had to, any night of the week.These are (mostly) highly intelligent people, already knowing that alcohol is not the most healthy body supplement one could consume - but what the hey....? .... we all do it anyway and have a damn good time in the process. It's part of the rights of passage in most universities or colleges - and that will not change any time soon. I'm sure this new rule will have zero effect on reducing consumption - so really: what's the point....? It just shows how far out of touch with reality those people are, who introduce these hair-brain schemes. People will make their own decisions. If they want to drink, they will find a way - and really: having to walk 300 metres... ain't no decision at all... Edited July 23, 2015 by PJ33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I still maintain that if the seller is in doubt, ask for the buyer's identification card. This is for retail outlets, if the staff in the bars or clubs are in doubt, ask for ID and if they don't provide it, or prove to be underage, don't let them in. Hardly rocket science is it? The laws are there, use them instead of inventing new rules. As has been stated, depriving people through legislation doesn't work. Past, present or future............................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowflake Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I have no doubt that Thais will not walk 300 meters to buy beer or any other form of alcohol... Now, if there only was a machine with a seat and two wheels, runs on petrol that they could ride to a shop that sells.... More drink riding will happen... As a former teacher I would also suggest that the beer they serve at school teachers parties will also be banned... Or does that not count??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 “Thailand has the strongest tradition of trying to curb alcohol consumption and reduce alcohol-related harms,” said Juergen Rehm, professor and chair of addiction policy at the University of Toronto’s Dalla Lana School of Public Health. SERIOUSLY?????? SERIOUSLY???? Let's see the stats re: drunk driving arrests/fines/loss of license/ vehicle impoundments/jail time. GET real Thailand EVERYTHING IS A PIPE DREAM RE: what is gonna be done..... lol lol WHEN?????? Do you really believe your own bs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Remember when the junta came in and had a 'crack down' on beer promotion and beer girls? I don't know about you lot but I still see beer promotions and beer girls operating as normal. This is just more useless hot air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Word is that former MP Chalerm will be heading the crackdown, after his liver transplant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kannikapor88 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 They actually think that if they say the Word "Crackdown" then everybody believe something is about to happen - sadly for them most people know its a totally empty Word in Land of Crackdowns ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Word is that former MP Chalerm will be heading the crackdown, after his liver transplant. It was ear medicine!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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