webfact Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Suthep's reform foundation gets a mixed response from observersKASAMAKORN CHANWANPENTHE NATIONBANGKOK: -- FORMER protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban's announcement about a reform foundation has drawn varying reactions from politicians and reformers.Alongkorn Ponlaboot, a former member of the Democrat Party and a current member of the National Reform Council (NRC), said the launch of the People's Democratic Reform Foundation chaired by Suthep was a "positive sign" for the national reform process.Yesterday, after Suthep and other People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) members held a press conference concerning the foundation, which would focus on driving the so-called reform, Alongkorn told The Nation, "overall, the approach is constructive."They have approaches that are in accordance with the blueprint of the NRC, especially on political reform," he said."The NRC's blueprint lays emphasis on reform of political parties and their system. I'm happy that Suthep also spoken about such reform. It is the right approach," he said.He said he hoped the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) would come up with a similar approach that is in the interests of democracy as well as national interests because both groups are crucial dynamic forces that could drive national reform.However, Weng Tojirakarn, a red-shirt figure and a former UDD leader, said he viewed Suthep's action as signifying he's back in politics."He is continuing his political life. The foundation he is establishing is a political organisation as well. In the future, there might be more rallies and he might even send people to run in an election," Weng claimed."He can say it is a foundation or whatever he wants. But it's a political organisation in camouflage.The red-shirt figure also questioned how the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) had allowed the former PDRC to hold such a press conference, as obviously it had political significance."People could question whether the military and the PDRC are on the same side. I'm worried for the NCPO," he said.Ekkachai Srivilas, an NRC member, made similar remarks, saying there should be no double standards on political gatherings. If the NCPO allowed Suthep to stage such activities, then maybe others should be able to do the same thing.To prevent other groups from following suit, the NCPO should be careful about the standard it is setting, he warned.He added that this could be viewed as a way for Suthep to pursue politics.The foundation could be backing a political party - be it a new one that might be created or the Democrat Party - he said, adding that it was the same as how UDD was associated with the Pheu Thai Party.However, Tankhun Jitissara, a former Democrat MP, said it was too early to tell if the foundation would be political. But so far he agreed with it in its principles regarding "reform".Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Sutheps-reform-foundation-gets-a-mixed-response-fr-30265589.html-- The Nation 2015-07-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckBee Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Yep, it stinks, if NCPO let this go then it as good as admitting they all part of one big setup. I was not a fan of pheu thai but i'm not a fan of this old lying thieving scum bag either, he is exactly the type of cockroach thailands reform needs to eradicate ... Edited July 30, 2015 by BuckBee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) How come he's allowed t hold a news conference but other politicians aren't? Oh, I forgot, Suthep is a non-political politician. Made very believable by his posing as a monk for a while. Reconciliation, Thai style? Edited July 30, 2015 by dbrenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Well the NRC (National Reform Council) is supposed to be accepting input from citizens. Perhaps Suthep could use that channel and forum to air his "ideas"? Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Thailand surely needs reform but with Suthep on the top of that foundation I smell a stinking fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Uncle Too must tread very carefully. He has now allowed what is clearly a political gathering to take place, albeit with the "right" side staging the meeting. I doubt that this will bring more happiness to the "wrong" side. Maybe it would help if they did an extra recital of the 12 principles, a couple of brisk marches in the school yard and some flag waving?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Uncle Too must tread very carefully. He has now allowed what is clearly a political gathering to take place, albeit with the "right" side staging the meeting. I doubt that this will bring more happiness to the "wrong" side. Maybe it would help if they did an extra recital of the 12 principles, a couple of brisk marches in the school yard and some flag waving?? Don't forget the singing and dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Suthep "the people will decide" so you support democratic elections? good to hear! all in the name of "the people" what a hero!!! anyone believe that? besides a few right wing TVF posters? na thought not you can fool some of the people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermoth Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Why hasen't this trouble monger been arrested for holding a political gathering of more than five. Talk about the whole system stinking!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireboy Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 This guy is a terrorist that should be behind (metal) bars... for a long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 "They have approaches that are in accordance with the blueprint of the NRC, especially on political reform." The PDRC is merely rubberstamping the NRC's reform agenda that is in reality the NCPO reform agenda. Why would that be necessary? The benefit to the NCPO is that the PDRC foundation can operate "independently" to collect and spend private funds to garner public support for that agenda while the PTP must remain silent on any reform that is contrary to the NCPO reform agenda. And the Junta will use government funds generated by taxpayers to promote the same agenda. The combination of this PDRC foundation with the Junta government will establishe a massive organization to promote the NCPO's draft constitution in the referendum. It looks like the end game is to get the NCPO draft constitution passed and put a pseudo-Democrat back into power. Simply a replay of the 2006 coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 A reform foundation for others while he and his family continue to enjoy the benefits of plundering forests and land grabs in the south. His house in Phun Pin constructed entirely from rainforest timber cut from the Chiew Larn Dam project in the late 80's. Shady land deals on Samui and elsewhere in Surat Thani involving them for many years. Calling the kettle "black" at every turn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Thailand surely needs reform but with Suthep on the top of that foundation I smell a stinking fish. this rabble ruser has connections that we can not mention or wwe will wind up in the slammer! let's see how the "General" handles this! the rabble rouser has already violated the generals order against more than five people gathering! unless he is in bed with this A-----e he will have to take some action in order to preserve his no nonsense image! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 A tool of the junta and elite......his intentions are clear and as long as it's pro junta....he'll continue unabated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 "People could question whether the military and the PDRC are on the same side. I'm worried for the NCPO," he said I doubt there is any need to question this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 He has allied it so closely to the PDRC, with a similar name, that it can only be a political party in disguise. I'm not opposed to it, but somehow there's a deceitfulness in all of this. Thailand needs straight shooters, K. Suthep, not more prevarication. So, we have Suthep's supposed philosophy, which is over-arching but totally lacking in detail. It's a "gunner" philosophy - "I'm gunna do this, and I'm gunna do that ...". But where are the details? Anyone can spout gibberish about supporting reforms, but Suthep seems to have forgotten the minutae, the modus operendi, the paths of attack. All I'm hearing is hollow words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Agree with all of the above. No good will come of this. He needs to stay out of the limelight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx22cb Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 With Suthep back, will we soon see the return of Costas in our midst too?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 oh here we go again with this waco. He is going to start trouble all over again. mark my words. He wants to be king of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Agree with above posters. This was just a psuedo political gathering held under the guise of a "foundation." All he did was change the "C" to an "F". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Good to see more Thailand politics. I thought it was starting to fade a bit, but I see that something is at least starting up again. Ewwww, and it looks like the Red shirt guy is all miffed by this, and some of his followers as well. I guess trying to get a country to become more democratic, takes a few tries. Good Luck Thailand voters and citizens, please just do not be bought off for your votes as you have been in the past. Being democratic, means that you vote for who will be best to try run the country of Thailand and help out the people of the country. It does not mean getting a few thousand baht to vote in the richest person who wants to have the power of being in charge of the majority vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarathi Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 When is the first final push ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 In fairness I expect some red shirt leaders hold a conference in the name of reconciliation and be allowed to convey what they consider acceptable. But of course it wont be allowed. Reconciliation is only for those that agree with giving the dems power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 "They have approaches that are in accordance with the blueprint of the NRC, especially on political reform," he said. "The NRC's blueprint lays emphasis on reform of political parties and their system. I'm happy that Suthep also spoken about such reform. It is the right approach," he said. So General, you stated no POLITICAL interests were allowed to gather, and here we have it in black and white... Hypocrite!!! This new venture by Suthep is as political as it comes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Queen Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Yep, it stinks, if NCPO let this go then it as good as admitting they all part of one big setup. I was not a fan of pheu thai but i'm not a fan of this old lying thieving scum bag either, he is exactly the type of cockroach thailands reform needs to eradicate ... Nail on head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Thailand don't need another divisive politician. Worst this one got the most powerful establishment on his side. He now have carte Blanche on every thing he does while others will be harassed and jailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 There can't be anyone left who still does not believe that that last years May intervention was a complete set up-is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 There can't be anyone left who still does not believe that that last years May intervention was a complete set up-is there? Over to English John... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 No mater how I look at this I can not fathom how this "foundation"can be construed as anything else except a political instrument. Even disguised as a "Think Tank" it is still composed of members of a single political party whose ideology is based on a specific political mantra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 There will be no reconciliation as long as the same divisive players keep coming back for more. You know considering the BKK elite are supposed to be the 'educated' ones they seem incapable of learning from their own mistakes. Suthep was hated in his own party for his level of corruption. Thaksin may as well be sitting right next to him talking about 'reforms. It's a load of horse poo frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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