webfact Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Anti-Abbott poster erected by Castlemaine Secondary College students sparks row over censorshipSYDNEY: -- A POSTER erected on the streets of a small Victorian goldfields town has sparked a war of words about democracy, censorship and public art.The poster was plastered on hoardings opposite the public library in Castlemaine, not far from Bendigo, in March. The artwork was commissioned by the local council.It features a black and white photograph of Prime Minister Tony Abbott and the words “Australia Needs an Abbott Proof Fence”.It was put there by art students from Castlemaine Secondary College who had been studying the film Rabbit Proof Fence, the Bendigo Advertiser reports.The students expected it to create some discussion, but never expected it to lead to calls for teachers to be dismissed.“Education needs to be apolitical,” Mark Jackaman wrote on a petition labelling the artwork “disgusting” and demanding a formal apology.Full story: http://www.news.com.au/national/anti-abbott-poster-erected-by-castlemaine-secondary-college-students-sparks-row-over-censorship/story-fncynjr2-1227462138349 -- News.com.au 2015-07-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 The news report doesn't say the poster has come down and as far as I could determine, the poster remains in place which is good. Nor is any violation of law presented in the OP. So there's hope yet. The support petition has three times the signatures of the oppose petition so that also could be encouraging news in a country that needs its restrictive communication laws and attitudes enlarged, expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 “Education needs to be apolitical,” Yes, it should be. That doesn't mean students should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 “Education needs to be apolitical,” Yes, it should be. That doesn't mean students should be. Nonsense. In education, presentation of political viewpoints must be balanced. Education shouldn't be apolitical. If it is apolitical or with only one side presented, you end up with students who can't independently think, like Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) “Education needs to be apolitical,” Yes, it should be. That doesn't mean students should be. Nonsense. In education, presentation of political viewpoints must be balanced. Education shouldn't be apolitical. If it is apolitical or with only one side presented, you end up with students who can't independently think, like Thailand. Apolitical is very different to "only one side presented". Education shouldn't be teaching a political view point. That doesn't mean that students can't have, or even discuss, their political view points in school, but the system shouldn't be teaching "their" political view point. Edited July 31, 2015 by whybother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Any expression of any political views should be allowed. Unless it is an infringement on other citizen's rights. A poster should stay. Students should face no punitive actions. Teachers - is another matter. No political views or content should be allowed in lectures on any subject other than Political Studies. In Political Studies Teacher's professionalism must be guaranteed by a balanced attitude and presentation. Unfortunately, not only in Australia, too many Teachers are openly leftist and biased. Told from personal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats4ever Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Any expression of any political views should be allowed. Unless it is an infringement on other citizen's rights. A poster should stay. Students should face no punitive actions. Teachers - is another matter. No political views or content should be allowed in lectures on any subject other than Political Studies. In Political Studies Teacher's professionalism must be guaranteed by a balanced attitude and presentation. Unfortunately, not only in Australia, too many Teachers are openly leftist and biased. Told from personal experience. I suspect that most people are to the left of you mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I couldn't give A Castlemain XXXX about Students Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Any expression of any political views should be allowed. Unless it is an infringement on other citizen's rights. A poster should stay. Students should face no punitive actions. Teachers - is another matter. No political views or content should be allowed in lectures on any subject other than Political Studies. In Political Studies Teacher's professionalism must be guaranteed by a balanced attitude and presentation. Unfortunately, not only in Australia, too many Teachers are openly leftist and biased. Told from personal experience. I suspect that most people are to the left of you mate. Interesting... Tell me what your suspicions are based on? Not that I really care, but... interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boon Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 first I heard of it ... but I like it 'Abbott Proof Fence/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lap82 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Some students with brains. Hard to find them in other southern countries, as Brazil, my homeplace, for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza40 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Any expression of any political views should be allowed. Unless it is an infringement on other citizen's rights. A poster should stay. Students should face no punitive actions. Teachers - is another matter. No political views or content should be allowed in lectures on any subject other than Political Studies. In Political Studies Teacher's professionalism must be guaranteed by a balanced attitude and presentation. Unfortunately, not only in Australia, too many Teachers are openly leftist and biased. Told from personal experience. I suspect that most people are to the left of you mate. Interesting... Tell me what your suspicions are based on? Not that I really care, but... interesting It's really not all that hard to be to the left of Abbott, in case you hadn't noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Love it, no politician or prime minister regardless of how they manage are going to be loved by all, so live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boon Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Love it, no politician or prime minister regardless of how they manage are going to be loved by all, so live with it. I doubt any PM or politician has ever been more hated that Tony Abbott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 first I heard of it ... but I like it 'Abbott Proof Fence/ We already have the rabbit proof fence. This must be the wicketkeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajtom Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Well they called the last boss te OLD WITCh but compared to ABBOTT she was CINDERELLA......... I would have married the old stick Abbott should be derailed like he did the economy and the dollar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigman Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) If there any hope for aussies that is young people who maybe one day will wake up. Personally...I think it is too late. This country is doomed for own citizens. No one dare to protest on "Stalin" type government who now trying to make money on pensioners and age pension people. Just gestapo country. Please don't lecture me because I am old , sick , homeless and just a victim of this system trying to survive out of Australia on my poor savings until I will get my age pension ....if still available in 2 years or I will be still alive. My best friend just died 3 days ago being just 55 who was refused full disability pension... He has been diagnosed less then 2 years to live and one thing he wanted to see his fatherland country and be supported and his wife. They refused him full pension.... He was so stressed that he got heart attack 3 days ago...and he died. That is "Australian way " to treat people's this days. Everyone is chicken in this country to say NO....to those bastards. just gestapo country Edited July 31, 2015 by gigman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 An odd idea of art. But then most art these days is odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) first I heard of it ... but I like it 'Abbott Proof Fence/ I don't. It should have been 'Abbott-Proof Fence', just like 'idiot-proof'. Or maybe it's time for a new word: 'Abbottproof'. Edited July 31, 2015 by MaxYakov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Australia's teachers are notoriously left wing, and senf a very poor message to students. Sjame on tje local council, obviously a bunch of left wing <deleted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 An odd idea of art. But then most art these days is odd. Not compared with most of the crap in the National Gallery! That has to be the greatest waste of taxpayers' money!! Hang on........... equalled by pensions for life for Gillard and Rudd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Who cares Very few, only news.com.au & a small regional paper, so far not reported in any other major media outlet. In the bigger picture it's accurate that the Abbott government is endeavouring to shut down media reporting / critique on some of it's activities; this issue is getting lots of coverage as the Abbott government leans more and more to unacceptable right wing behaviour. Edited July 31, 2015 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boon Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Well they called the last boss te OLD WITCh but compared to ABBOTT she was CINDERELLA......... I would have married the old stick Abbott should be derailed like he did the economy and the dollar the dick head Glenn Stevens (Reserve Bank) did that to help the corporations sell resources off cheaper ... and these corporations pay little to no tax . Chevron made about $3.2 billion, paid no tax and go a tax refund of $5.7 million <deleted> ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Well done and quite funny to me. Scabbot, was quite happy for the nasty and divisive "ditch the witch" campaign that run during gillards time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Any expression of any political views should be allowed. Unless it is an infringement on other citizen's rights. A poster should stay. Students should face no punitive actions. Teachers - is another matter. No political views or content should be allowed in lectures on any subject other than Political Studies. In Political Studies Teacher's professionalism must be guaranteed by a balanced attitude and presentation. Unfortunately, not only in Australia, too many Teachers are openly leftist and biased. Told from personal experience. Genghis Khan is to the left of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 “Education needs to be apolitical,” Yes, it should be. That doesn't mean students should be. No one said that. However, it is unfair when instructors infuse a course with their own political views and compel students to behave in a certain manner. If a teacher supports a particular view and is forceful in expressing that view, do you think it encourages a student to express a different views? Schools should be politically neutral. This is a common problem at many teaching facilities where an instructor's bias corrupts the educational process. It is common with instructors who hold extremist opinions, whether to the right or to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 At least samran is funny. But the Geelong Cats fan was serious. I am in no way offended, just would like to know why? Come on, Cats4ever, be a sport. I'm really curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Please ensure the Abbott Proof Fence includes Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles45 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 "Please don't lecture me because I am old , sick , homeless and just a victim of this system trying to survive out of Australia on my poor savings until I will get my age pension ....if still available in 2 years or I will be still alive." gigman, are you aware that recent changes to the old age pension qualification rules mean that you must be in australia on the day you apply BUT you must also have been in Australia for the previous 2 years. A friend of mine had to return from Thailand 4 months ago to make sure he will qualify. Check the web site for more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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