bim Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I agree its doesnt make sense. Nor does Buddists eating meat as it supposed to be against there religion. Make it up as they go along as with all religions.Before insulting Buddhism, please get your facts straight: eating meat is not against Buddhism; the Lord Buddha himself ate meat. Even monks are permitted to eat meat, provided that the animal hasn't explicitly been killed for them. Mahayana Buddhism is strictly vegetarian. I dont think its an insult to point that out. Again you haven't got for facts straight. Mahayana Buddism is not strictly vegetarian; the vast majority of Mahayana Buddhists eats meat. It's only proscribed for the sangha. "I undertake the precept to refrain from taking life" the rest is just divided opinion and open to interpretation. Make it up as you go along. Proof if proof where needed that its such that All religion is man made. Mahayana sultras were against the eating of flesh of any kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) I agree its doesnt make sense. Nor does Buddists eating meat as it supposed to be against there religion. Make it up as they go along as with all religions.Before insulting Buddhism, please get your facts straight: eating meat is not against Buddhism; the Lord Buddha himself ate meat. Even monks are permitted to eat meat, provided that the animal hasn't explicitly been killed for them.Mahayana Buddhism is strictly vegetarian. I dont think its an insult to point that out. Again you haven't got for facts straight. Mahayana Buddism is not strictly vegetarian; the vast majority of Mahayana Buddhists eats meat. It's only proscribed for the sangha. And Thailand is about 90% Theravada Buddhist anyway (some sources say as high as 95%). Edited August 11, 2015 by hawker9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Over 300 posts here whilst thousands are being murdered every month elsewhere. Surely this must be a rind up? Not want to BOAR you or HOG the post or tell porky pies, SOW life must go on. Have to go for a shave and RAZOR BACK the whiskers. As for the SQUEALERS who do not like the Bacon and it disrupts their life, move. Another foreigner telling Thai citizens how to live their lives. I think you should take your own advice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 They have a valid point. No, they don't. This is everything that is wrong with the Muslim faith. Everything is an indignation to their religion and they want special treatment, special laws, even though they don't live in a Muslim country. They are entitled to equal protection, and so is the developer of the bacon factory. If they can prove actual damage from air, water, noise or any other kind of pollution, they can take this matter up through the political (not much protection from zoning laws) or legal process. Claims that this is some kind of indignation of their religion, a violation of their livelihood or infringe on their practice of Islam are specious and not actionable. I agree. If there was any validity in the protested objection then all and any bacon/ pork processing plant/ factory in existence could be considered under the same! There should never be any right given to a religuous edict on grounds other than the right t believe, never to impose or inflict! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 one can know where is this draft ??? it would be good to have the results. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 They have a valid point. No, they don't. This is everything that is wrong with the Muslim faith. Everything is an indignation to their religion and they want special treatment, special laws, even though they don't live in a Muslim country. They are entitled to equal protection, and so is the developer of the bacon factory. If they can prove actual damage from air, water, noise or any other kind of pollution, they can take this matter up through the political (not much protection from zoning laws) or legal process. Claims that this is some kind of indignation of their religion, a violation of their livelihood or infringe on their practice of Islam are specious and not actionable. I agree. If there was any validity in the protested objection then all and any bacon/ pork processing plant/ factory in existence could be considered under the same! There should never be any right given to a religuous edict on grounds other than the right t believe, never to impose or inflict! They were asked for their opinion about a proposed factory to be built in their community so they gave it. Why should they be denied the right to point out that one of their objections has a faith element to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 No, they don't. This is everything that is wrong with the Muslim faith. Everything is an indignation to their religion and they want special treatment, special laws, even though they don't live in a Muslim country. They are entitled to equal protection, and so is the developer of the bacon factory. If they can prove actual damage from air, water, noise or any other kind of pollution, they can take this matter up through the political (not much protection from zoning laws) or legal process. Claims that this is some kind of indignation of their religion, a violation of their livelihood or infringe on their practice of Islam are specious and not actionable.I agree. If there was any validity in the protested objection then all and any bacon/ pork processing plant/ factory in existence could be considered under the same! There should never be any right given to a religuous edict on grounds other than the right t believe, never to impose or inflict! They were asked for their opinion about a proposed factory to be built in their community so they gave it. Why should they be denied the right to point out that one of their objections has a faith element to it? It is the primary objection and therefore deserves no consideration. Concern over health and safety came across as an after-thought, but has merit and deserves to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Muzzzlims….always demanding stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Muzzzlims….always demanding stuff. I am not muzzi and I also deman eggs with my "unclean" bacon.... Mmmmm If Allah really didnt want muslims to not eat pork he would not have invented pork ribs or bacon... Sent from my c64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 when, could we have the results of this petition? I hope that the plant will be constructed, is good to launch an information on a forum, but we must to know wherefores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I love bacon. Will this new facility be doing Western style bacon to Western standards or packaged bacon like I see in Lotus and Big C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 No, they don't. This is everything that is wrong with the Muslim faith. Everything is an indignation to their religion and they want special treatment, special laws, even though they don't live in a Muslim country. They are entitled to equal protection, and so is the developer of the bacon factory. If they can prove actual damage from air, water, noise or any other kind of pollution, they can take this matter up through the political (not much protection from zoning laws) or legal process. Claims that this is some kind of indignation of their religion, a violation of their livelihood or infringe on their practice of Islam are specious and not actionable.I agree. If there was any validity in the protested objection then all and any bacon/ pork processing plant/ factory in existence could be considered under the same! There should never be any right given to a religuous edict on grounds other than the right t believe, never to impose or inflict! They were asked for their opinion about a proposed factory to be built in their community so they gave it. Why should they be denied the right to point out that one of their objections has a faith element to it? It is the primary objection and therefore deserves no consideration. Concern over health and safety came across as an after-thought, but has merit and deserves to be addressed. All their objections deserve consideration as they are the community whose lives will be affected by this factory being built there. That's what a consultation process is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I agree. If there was any validity in the protested objection then all and any bacon/ pork processing plant/ factory in existence could be considered under the same! There should never be any right given to a religuous edict on grounds other than the right t believe, never to impose or inflict! They were asked for their opinion about a proposed factory to be built in their community so they gave it. Why should they be denied the right to point out that one of their objections has a faith element to it? It is the primary objection and therefore deserves no consideration. Concern over health and safety came across as an after-thought, but has merit and deserves to be addressed. All their objections deserve consideration as they are the community whose lives will be affected by this factory being built there. That's what a consultation process is for. I fully understand how it works. You don't need to keep talking about how a feedback process works in order to avoid acknowledging the glaring historical precedent on human polarization and domination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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