Injections -when will they end?

[Deserted]

Hi all, our child will soon be 3 years old. I have lost count of the times we have been to the hospital to get the next stage of the the latest vaccine. It seems like every 2 months or so there is a new vaccination our child must have. Apart from the steadily rising cost, I don't like seeing my child suffer as he hates having it done. When I was young I only had a few injections, when are they going to end and are hospitals ripping people off with them. It's about 800 Baht a time, we must have had 10 or more journeys by now. When will it end, should we draw the line somewhere ourselves?

[anon467367354]

do some research on vaccines and you may stop it right now.

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are, do your own research

if you know what's good for your kid.

[Deserted]

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are,

lol, you are, of course, welcome to show us evidence of this. I look forward it indeed.

[nowretired]

The Thai vaccination schedule can be seen in the link

This schedule conforms to International standards and norms.

http://www.healthcaremedicalclinic.com/pdf/pdf11.pdf

If cost is a problem then the child can receive the vaccination via the Thai health system either "free" or at a very low cost.

Ask the child's mother to make the arrangements.

Edited August 20, 2015 by nowretired

[Deserted]

The Thai vaccination schedule can be seen in the link

This schedule conforms to International standards and norms.

http://www.healthcaremedicalclinic.com/pdf/pdf11.pdf

If cost is a problem then the child can receive the vaccination via the Thai health system either "free" or at a very low cost.

Ask the child's mother to make the arrangements.

That's great, thanks for that. The cost isn't really the issue, need to know the schedule more than anything as the little one doesn't like them.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Deserted

[Boo]

They mostly end about this age & then a booster when they get to school.

[richard_smith237]

do some research on vaccines and you may stop it right now.

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are, do your own research

if you know what's good for your kid.

This Penn & Tell Video explains the essential need for Child Vaccinations to people who haven't yet realised they are dumb....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhk7-5eBCrs

[laislica]

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are,

lol, you are, of course, welcome to show us evidence of this. I look forward it indeed.

Sad to see your post, the brainwashing is now complete for you and you have a closed mind.

Just google vaccines and see for yourself.

Big Pharma control all governments and in America they have had laws passed that you cannot sue them if you are damaged by their vaccines.

They are passing laws to have you taken by force and injected against your wishes - for the common good - of course.

Follow the money!

I'm in my seventies and we were given cod liver oil as kids and very few vaccinations. My generation turns out to be one of the healthiest ever.

The life span of current generations is reducing to the point that new parents can expect to outlive their children.

It's not all down to vaccinations but they do factor into the equation.

What straw breaks the camels back?

The first, the second or the last?

It's true that medical technology, antibiotics have been instrumental in extending life but the pendulum swings.

We have created and are continually creating new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!

In the early days, before Lister and hygiene, a hospital was a place to go to die after an operation to remove a limb.

It is fast returning to those days.

In the fight with nature - nature will win.

She's been at it rather longer than us mere humans!

Who do we think we are?

I'm a scientist - Trust me LOL

[MaeJoMTB]

Vaccinations are free at the government hospitals.

And because of that, there are a lot less of them than at the private hospitals.

[cooked]

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are,

lol, you are, of course, welcome to show us evidence of this. I look forward it indeed.

Sad to see your post, the brainwashing is now complete for you and you have a closed mind.

Just google vaccines and see for yourself.

Big Pharma control all governments and in America they have had laws passed that you cannot sue them if you are damaged by their vaccines.

They are passing laws to have you taken by force and injected against your wishes - for the common good - of course.

Follow the money!

I'm in my seventies and we were given cod liver oil as kids and very few vaccinations. My generation turns out to be one of the healthiest ever.

The life span of current generations is reducing to the point that new parents can expect to outlive their children.

It's not all down to vaccinations but they do factor into the equation.

What straw breaks the camels back?

The first, the second or the last?

It's true that medical technology, antibiotics have been instrumental in extending life but the pendulum swings.

We have created and are continually creating new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!

In the early days, before Lister and hygiene, a hospital was a place to go to die after an operation to remove a limb.

It is fast returning to those days.

In the fight with nature - nature will win.

She's been at it rather longer than us mere humans!

Who do we think we are?

I'm a scientist - Trust me LOL

You are confusing antibiotics with vaccines. In countries where, for some god forsaken reason, people stop accepting vaccines for their children, deaths due to the diseases increase. Polio should have been wiped out by now, There was an outbreak of measles in the USA due to people believing that since discredited doctor who falsified results to make it look as though measles vaccines caused autism. The American public learned about the value of vaccines willy bloody nilly after the outbreak at Disney land.

PS You aren't a scientist.

[Deserted]

Vaccinations are free at the government hospitals.

And because of that, there are a lot less of them than at the private hospitals.

Is that because its not necessary to have so many or the hospitals just don't want to pay for them.

[MaeJoMTB]

Vaccinations are free at the government hospitals.

And because of that, there are a lot less of them than at the private hospitals.

Is that because its not necessary to have so many or the hospitals just don't want to pay for them.

Government hospitals only inject the ones the kids have to have.

Given a choice, I wouldn't give my kid ANY vaccinations, but they won't let him attend Thai school without them.

Private hospitals tend to inject anything they have in stock.

Edited August 21, 2015 by MaeJoMTB

[laislica]

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

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[richard_smith237]

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

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Directly specifically at laislica and other's who would choose not to Vaccinate their children.

Lets pick a couple: Would you not vaccinate your own child against killers such as Polio or Typhoid?

After all, its easy to be strongly opinionated when someone else faces the risks or impact - but when it directly faces you or your family would the strength of your convictions waver ?

Would you really leave your Child at risk based on your paranoia of 'Big-Pharma' and its links to the government ?

[MrTee]

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are,

lol, you are, of course, welcome to show us evidence of this. I look forward it indeed.

Sad to see your post, the brainwashing is now complete for you and you have a closed mind.

Just google vaccines and see for yourself.

Big Pharma control all governments and in America they have had laws passed that you cannot sue them if you are damaged by their vaccines.

They are passing laws to have you taken by force and injected against your wishes - for the common good - of course.

Follow the money!

I'm in my seventies and we were given cod liver oil as kids and very few vaccinations. My generation turns out to be one of the healthiest ever.

The life span of current generations is reducing to the point that new parents can expect to outlive their children.

It's not all down to vaccinations but they do factor into the equation.

What straw breaks the camels back?

The first, the second or the last?

It's true that medical technology, antibiotics have been instrumental in extending life but the pendulum swings.

We have created and are continually creating new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!

In the early days, before Lister and hygiene, a hospital was a place to go to die after an operation to remove a limb.

It is fast returning to those days.

In the fight with nature - nature will win.

She's been at it rather longer than us mere humans!

Who do we think we are?

I'm a scientist - Trust me LOL

I'm going to ignore that the fact that your post is full of crapola and respond anyway...

If you do care to use Google to search for vaccines you'll see lots of stories like

"An estimated one in five children went without lifesaving vaccines globally last year, adding to the grim toll of 1.5 million children who die annually for lack of immunization, according to the World Health Organization."

"Polio in Africa has been eradicated"

If you really want to read poppycock, pseudo-science, untruths, misinformation and lies, then yeah that's out there too.. along with absolute proof the "Queen of England is a lizard" which surprisingly gets "About 568,000" hits on google..

If you really are a scientist then you'll you'll understand the difference between science based on empirical evidence and anecdotal evidence. Though I strongly suspect that lacking the mental faculties to produce anything resembling a coherent statement you've reduced your self to using sarcasm.

According to your thinking "My old granny lived to 94, she smoked cigarettes, therefore smoking is safe" when clearly it is not, only a complete idiot would believe such a thing.

Follow the money, well yes, you'd need to be a special sort of stupid to entertain the idea that any organisation does things just for the enjoyment of doing them.. Of course Pharma companies make lots of money. That doesn't make it bad or wrong. Any more than the fact that web forums are trying to make money, or you favourite TV station, or your car manufacturer, or the aeroplanes you fly in.

Now that's not to say that Pharma is perfect, absolutely not, but its better on scale of magnitude than not vaccinating.

It was stupid idiots like Andrew Wakefield who falsified evidence on his research into MMR and autism! he should have been gaoled for life the damage he has caused! children die because of that scumbag!

Anyone advising people not to vaccinate their children should have a look at what happens to un-vaccinated children.. Google that! try to look at some images of children with rubella, or Polio or the hundreds of other deadly diseases that kill children\people in the most horrific ways.

"The poliomyelitis virus is a highly infectious viral disease that attacks the nervous system and can cause irreversible paralysis within hours of infection. It often spreads among young children and in areas with poor sanitation. It has no cure, and can only be prevented through immunisation."

Polio has been eradicated in most of the world by vaccines! Not by some hippy dippy tree hugging chanting or other BS. Vaccines!

And as for "We have created and are continually creating new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!" Fortunately its a rare thing to come across such idiotic statements!

What has happened is that certain types of bacteria have become resistant to antibiotics. And, yes this is bad thing! but all of those antibiotics that have been used since their discovery have saved millions upon million of lives. Over use of antibiotics have led to the development of highly resistant strains of bacteria. that doesn't mean that antibiotics are dangerous, it means they have become ineffectual in defeating certain types of bacteria. how you get from that to "new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!" is beyond me.. I'll look forward to you substantiating your statement with some evidence.

Thanks in advance.

Edited August 21, 2015 by MrTee

[MrTee]

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

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Complete rubbish!

http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2203906

"Analysis showed that substandard vaccination compliance is likely to blame for the 2015 measles outbreak"

[laislica]

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are,

lol, you are, of course, welcome to show us evidence of this. I look forward it indeed.

Sad to see your post, the brainwashing is now complete for you and you have a closed mind.

Just google vaccines and see for yourself.

Big Pharma control all governments and in America they have had laws passed that you cannot sue them if you are damaged by their vaccines.

They are passing laws to have you taken by force and injected against your wishes - for the common good - of course.

Follow the money!

I'm in my seventies and we were given cod liver oil as kids and very few vaccinations. My generation turns out to be one of the healthiest ever.

The life span of current generations is reducing to the point that new parents can expect to outlive their children.

It's not all down to vaccinations but they do factor into the equation.

What straw breaks the camels back?

The first, the second or the last?

It's true that medical technology, antibiotics have been instrumental in extending life but the pendulum swings.

We have created and are continually creating new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!

In the early days, before Lister and hygiene, a hospital was a place to go to die after an operation to remove a limb.

It is fast returning to those days.

In the fight with nature - nature will win.

She's been at it rather longer than us mere humans!

Who do we think we are?

I'm a scientist - Trust me LOL

I'm going to ignore that the fact that your post is full of crapola and respond anyway...

If you do care to use Google to search for vaccines you'll see lots of stories like

"An estimated one in five children went without lifesaving vaccines globally last year, adding to the grim toll of 1.5 million children who die annually for lack of immunization, according to the World Health Organization."

"Polio in Africa has been eradicated"

If you really want to read poppycock, pseudo-science, untruths, misinformation and lies, then yeah that's out there too.. along with absolute proof the "Queen of England is a lizard" which surprisingly gets "About 568,000" hits on google..

If you really are a scientist then you'll you'll understand the difference between science based on empirical evidence and anecdotal evidence. Though I strongly suspect that lacking the mental faculties to produce anything resembling a coherent statement you've reduced your self to using sarcasm.

According to your thinking "My old granny lived to 94, she smoked cigarettes, therefore smoking is safe" when clearly it is not, only a complete idiot would believe such a thing.

Follow the money, well yes, you'd need to be a special sort of stupid to entertain the idea that any organisation does things just for the enjoyment of doing them.. Of course Pharma companies make lots of money. That doesn't make it bad or wrong. Any more than the fact that web forums are trying to make money, or you favourite TV station, or your car manufacturer, or the aeroplanes you fly in.

Now that's not to say that Pharma is perfect, absolutely not, but its better on scale of magnitude than not vaccinating.

It was stupid idiots like Andrew Wakefield who falsified evidence on his research into MMR and autism! he should have been gaoled for life the damage he has caused! children die because of that scumbag!

Anyone advising people not to vaccinate their children should have a look at what happens to un-vaccinated children.. Google that! try to look at some images of children with rubella, or Polio or the hundreds of other deadly diseases that kill children\people in the most horrific ways.

"The poliomyelitis virus is a highly infectious viral disease that attacks the nervous system and can cause irreversible paralysis within hours of infection. It often spreads among young children and in areas with poor sanitation. It has no cure, and can only be prevented through immunisation."

Polio has been eradicated in most of the world by vaccines! Not by some hippy dippy tree hugging chanting or other BS. Vaccines!

And as for "We have created and are continually creating new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!" Fortunately its a rare thing to come across such idiotic statements!

What has happened is that certain types of bacteria have become resistant to antibiotics. And, yes this is bad thing! but without all of those antibiotics that have been used since their discovery have saved millions upon million of lives. Over use of antibiotics have led to the development of highly resistant strains of bacteria. that doesn't mean that antibiotics are dangerous, it means they have become ineffectual in defeating certain types of bacteria. how you get from that to "new scary deadly bacteria that use antibiotics as food!" is beyond me.. I'll look forward to you substantiating your statement with some evidence.

Thanks in advance.

You're welcome.

The other day on Spanish TV was a documentary about the latest untreatable bacteria to invade hospitals in the USA.

The documentary said that they were most grateful to the hospital who allowed them to film the procedures that they used to help them to reduce the impact of the invasion.

Sorry I don't remember all the details, hospital name etc

Sorry I don't have time at the moment to google and let you know.

I was given the polio vaccination as a kid as drops on a sugar cube and gave the same to my kids. Note it was not an injection and that is significant. The way that these infections enter the body is important.

Chickenpox is a childhood disease, I along with all my mates had it. And measles. The fact that those diseases were always in the wild meant that there was regular exposure and ones immune system was constantly boosted by whatever new strain was evolving.

What most people don't realise is that they need boosters every few years for life.

Sorry, gotta go, stuff to do.

I will return later.

I do agree that antibiotics have been wonderful.

Did you know that all big Pharma have stopped research into antibiotics because they have such a short use life and there is no profit in them?

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[NickJ]

They need a vaccine for stupidity......

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y

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?
Yes it was previously vaccinated people.
Thus showing how well they work?
You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.
Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he
By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......


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Yes I did. I don't have beliefs, I go for scientific facts. Try this one: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-disneyland-measles-under-vaccination-20150316-story.html

Scientists sometimes get things wrong, and they will admit it.

People with beliefs will not let ant amount of scientific argument change their minds.

People that come up with 'Big pharma' as an argument have already lost the argument before they start.

I remember the extreme fear in my home town many years ago when children started dying of polio, those that didn't die had to live in an iron lung.

[thehelmsman]

I agree that we rely on the medical professionals to advise us of the needed shots for our kids too much. But, my 3 yr. old has all her shots given at the private hospital where she was born. I feel better about the vaccines from there than I would taking her to a free clinic. At least at the Private hospital the medicine is handled by paid professionals. There's absolutely nothing free in this world.

[laislica]

They need a vaccine for stupidity......

Not to mention sheer rudeness!

Have you heard the expression "Methinks thou doest too much"?

Opinions do not have to be Bashed down until only yours exists!

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[laislica]

y

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

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Yes I did. I don't have beliefs, I go for scientific facts. Try this one: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-disneyland-measles-under-vaccination-20150316-story.html

Scientists sometimes get things wrong, and they will admit it.

People with beliefs will not let ant amount of scientific argument change their minds.

People that come up with 'Big pharma' as an argument have already lost the argument before they start.

I remember the extreme fear in my home town many years ago when children started dying of polio, those that didn't die had to live in an iron lung.

Same during my upbringing in the 40's, the oral polio vaccine was a God send. Swimming pools were closed, it was panic.

In those days things were clearer, the motive was to fix an urgent problem and the testing necessary for approval was much more relaxed. The motive was not mainly for profit.

I'm not saying that vaccinations are totally bad, I am saying that vaccines are now produced for profit, not necessarily for health.

How would the proposed vaccine for stupidity help health?

Why does no one comment on my statement that Big Pharma have terminated research into new antibiotics?

Anyway, thank you all for your well rounded and constructive posts.

(Where is the sarchy font?"

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[laislica]

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Complete rubbish!

http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2203906

"Analysis showed that substandard vaccination compliance is likely to blame for the 2015 measles outbreak"

The reason I let you do your own research is because-:

:-

There are lies, damned lies and statistics!

It is possible to cherry pick and only show the side of the story you want to be heard - that's Science you know.

There are charts available showing the number of patients with a particular disease from many years before any vaccine was developed and as the standard of living, nutrition, hygiene improved over time, so the numbers of people affected by the disease dropped.

The charts go on to show no massive change in the reduction upon the introduction of the vaccine.

However, if you cherry pick what part of the chart to display, it suddenly looks like the vaccine was doing the trick.

So, enjoy your bashing and I'll see you on another thread maybe where discussion can be had.

EDIT correct auto spelling....

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Edited August 21, 2015 by laislica

[MrTee]

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Complete rubbish!

http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2203906

"Analysis showed that substandard vaccination compliance is likely to blame for the 2015 measles outbreak"

The reason I let you do your own research is because-:

:-

There are lies, damned lies and statistics!

It is possible to cherry pick and only show the side of the story you want to be heard - that's Science you know.

There are charts available showing the number of patients with a particular disease from many years before any vaccine was developed and as the standard of living, nutrition, hygiene improved over time, so the numbers of people affected by the disease dropped.

The charts go on to show no massive change in the reduction upon the introduction of the vaccine.

However, if you cherry pick what part of the chart to display, it suddenly looks like the vaccine was doing the trick.

So, enjoy your bashing and I'll see you on another thread maybe where discussion can be had.

EDIT correct auto spelling....

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I'm not sure I follow or why you have introduced all the other factors..

Lets stick to one thing at a time..

You stated

"Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people."

I refuted that, and posted a link..

I see you do not supply anything to back up your assertion. kind weak that fella..

[laislica]

For goodness sake please read my posts......

Anyone looked at the profiles of the current contributors to this thread?

We have a few keyboard warriors amongst us - the anonymous kind.

You know who you are....

Last word to you.....

There are those of us on here who are highly intelligent but for reasons various have decided to live in Thailand full time.

Then, starved of their usual mental stimulus choose to troll here.

They will do anything to get any attention - good or bad.

Glad that I was part of some stimulation for those chaps.

To divert them from their daily hell.

However, since they have such intelligence, perhaps they will find a way to use it to the benefit of whatever community they live in. There is lots to do.

Sadly, I am a world traveller, never staying too long in a single place but I do try to fit in and help where ever I find myself.

This thread reminds me of a very simple computer game from the 60's The Doctor is in, how can I help you.

Lol

I sometimes wonder what drives folk to post the way they do.

Over enough time the answer becomes clear, but frankly, my life is quite full of things to do and I find it really boring to try to find a meaningful and helpful discussion on threads like this.

To the chaps who are bored - go try and help someone.

To those who are drinkers - Cheers!

There is only one certain thing - we will all die, sooner or later.

So have a great today - every day.

Quote Disney Bambi....

"If you can't say anything nice, don't say nufin at all."

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[simple1]

<snip>

Did you know that all big Pharma have stopped research into antibiotics

Drug Makers Tiptoe Back Into Antibiotic R&D

e.g. GlaxoSmithKline PLC of the U.K. recently said it will receive as much as $200 million in U.S. government funding for its antibiotic program.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303465004579322601579895822

[Naam]

do some research on vaccines and you may stop it right now.

You need to know that children that are not vaccinated are far healthier than those that are, do your own research

if you know what's good for your kid.

you need to know that your claim is nonsense

[cooked]

y

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

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Yes I did. I don't have beliefs, I go for scientific facts. Try this one: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-disneyland-measles-under-vaccination-20150316-story.html

Scientists sometimes get things wrong, and they will admit it.

People with beliefs will not let ant amount of scientific argument change their minds.

People that come up with 'Big pharma' as an argument have already lost the argument before they start.

I remember the extreme fear in my home town many years ago when children started dying of polio, those that didn't die had to live in an iron lung.

Same during my upbringing in the 40's, the oral polio vaccine was a God send. Swimming pools were closed, it was panic.

In those days things were clearer, the motive was to fix an urgent problem and the testing necessary for approval was much more relaxed. The motive was not mainly for profit.

I'm not saying that vaccinations are totally bad, I am saying that vaccines are now produced for profit, not necessarily for health.

How would the proposed vaccine for stupidity help health?

Why does no one comment on my statement that Big Pharma have terminated research into new antibiotics?

Anyway, thank you all for your well rounded and constructive posts.

(Where is the sarchy font?"

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I wrote my last post on my iPhone while waiting for the missus, not too bad in the circumstances.

So, you have started attacking people instead of arguments. People that don't agree with your nonsense are trolls or possibly semi-illiterate.

Big Pharma (Also known as the devil incarnate, and none of whose employees fear illness or look after their children -google big pharma conspiracy) have not abandoned research into antibiotics. Producing new antibiotics has become very very expensive and moves are afoot to get international funding to intensify research.

I really don't see what arguing about antibiotics has to do with the OP's question. you seem to be getting lost in a maze of your own making.

Go on, tell us that alternative medicine works.

[Deserted]

y

Did you check on who was infected at the Disneyland outbreak?

Yes it was previously vaccinated people.

Thus showing how well they work?

You are welcome to your beliefs, as I am to mine.

Just believe us scientists without question, that's obviously the best thing to do he he

By the way, I have a spare £25,000,000, just send me your bank details and I'll send you some.......

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Yes I did. I don't have beliefs, I go for scientific facts. Try this one: http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-disneyland-measles-under-vaccination-20150316-story.html

Scientists sometimes get things wrong, and they will admit it.

People with beliefs will not let ant amount of scientific argument change their minds.

People that come up with 'Big pharma' as an argument have already lost the argument before they start.

I remember the extreme fear in my home town many years ago when children started dying of polio, those that didn't die had to live in an iron lung.

Same during my upbringing in the 40's, the oral polio vaccine was a God send. Swimming pools were closed, it was panic.

In those days things were clearer, the motive was to fix an urgent problem and the testing necessary for approval was much more relaxed. The motive was not mainly for profit.

I'm not saying that vaccinations are totally bad, I am saying that vaccines are now produced for profit, not necessarily for health.

How would the proposed vaccine for stupidity help health?

Why does no one comment on my statement that Big Pharma have terminated research into new antibiotics?

Anyway, thank you all for your well rounded and constructive posts.

(Where is the sarchy font?"

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I wrote my last post on my iPhone while waiting for the missus, not too bad in the circumstances.

So, you have started attacking people instead of arguments. People that don't agree with your nonsense are trolls or possibly semi-illiterate.

Big Pharma (Also known as the devil incarnate, and none of whose employees fear illness or look after their children -google big pharma conspiracy) have not abandoned research into antibiotics. Producing new antibiotics has become very very expensive and moves are afoot to get international funding to intensify research.

I really don't see what arguing about antibiotics has to do with the OP's question. you seem to be getting lost in a maze of your own making.

Go on, tell us that alternative medicine works.

Yes thank you. If we could return to the original question of the age where injections are no longer needed I would be grateful. Our child is 3 years old, I am constantly surprised by the hospitals claim that he needs another stage in yet another vaccine. Surely the line has to be drawn somewhere.

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Post number 4 gave you the answer to that question.

Some of us dislike pseudo scientists telling us that we don't need vaccinations, that is dangerous.