webfact Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Referendum Campaign Ban Extends to Social Media, Line, SMSBy Khaosod English'Crayon Shin-chan' Line stickers.BANGKOK — The ban on “campaigning” for or against the new constitution will include uses of social media, a government official said today.Deputy Prime Minister Visanu Krue-ngam, elaborating on earlier comments authorities would forbid campaigning in the run-up to a public vote, said today the ban will also cover using social media to “mobilize supporters” in support or opposition to the new constitution.“Mobilizing people – whether to tell them to accept or reject it – cannot be done. It’s forbidden, because it will amount to violating the orders of the National Council for Peace and Order,” Visanu said, referring to the junta’s formal name. “If you send Line or SMS messages in ways that incite, mobilize, use rude words, use violent terms, or use aggressive terms; you cannot do that. It’s against the law.”Yesterday Visanu told reporters that the proposed charter’s boosters and critics would only be allowed to express their opinions through mainstream media, such as television programs, and forums sanctioned and organized by authorities.While Visanu did not clearly articulate who the ban would apply to, his comments came following statements by civilian politicians critical of junta-drafted charter.Such rallies or other forms of campaigning would be considered political activity, Visanu said yesterday, which has been banned since the junta seized power in May 2014.He said people who use social media to try and influence opinion on the draft constitution before it goes to a vote, possibly in January, would be prosecuted.“This includes sending video clips that break the laws. If we catch you doing it, we will arrest you. The principle is that: you cannot mobilize or incite that cause divisions. If you express your opinion in a normal way, it’s fine, for example, by expressing opinions on TV shows.” Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1440741453 -- Khaosod English 2015-08-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, and the cute chiwouha stickers my daughter sends me? He must be mighty bored! On a more sinister note, could this be a pretext to close down social media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Given that there should be no reason at all to discuss the pros and cons of the new constitution then I guess the only to ban people talking about is would be so the people who don't understand it will never be able to and the ones who really do understand it can not talk about it online lest it make someone else have an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) In other news today, a Suan Dusit poll reported that 92.37% of village elders had no opinion for or against the Charter, while 93.11 % were waiting for further instruction. Disclaimer: the above statement is false, but shall not cause panic, confusion, negative thoughts or body rash. Edited August 28, 2015 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 So only "approved" sources will be able to argue the pros/cons of the new "supposedly" democratic constitution..... that hurts my head.... there may be no discussion about it by "unapproved" sources. Next only "approved" voters will be able to vote for it because "unapproved" voters will not understand enough to vote on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Seriously, I am wondering if any of the members will make an attempt to justify or rationalize these restrictions imposed by the Junta. Such an attempt would have to be epic in scope. Edited August 28, 2015 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfalds Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 It is a well known fact that an open and unfettered Internet is incompatible with authoritarian regimes. The above article is nothing new or unforeseen. One should have known from the get-go when they were discussing a referendum, they really didn't mean a referendum. Sets up interesting times for us Political junkies. Watching a process of public input be controlled to elicit a preferred outcome.....There will probably be an inundation of NIDA Polls, and other such fabricated things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, and the cute chiwouha stickers my daughter sends me? He must be mighty bored! On a more sinister note, could this be a pretext to close down social media? Looks like a cute way of saying your social media is being monitored. Would love to see their 'trigger' word list for that. Or just scare tactics............................... Edited August 28, 2015 by chrisinth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amras Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I agree, peasants should never be allowed to express opinions. Opinions are the work of the devil, who allowed them to undermine all those in power. We cannot have such things going on anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpedo1970 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, and the cute chiwouha stickers my daughter sends me? He must be mighty bored! On a more sinister note, could this be a pretext to close down social media? Looks like a cute way of saying your social media is being monitored. Would love to see their 'trigger' word list for that. Or just scare tactics............................... Or just scare tactics.............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 That's like Dinosaurs trying to ban asteroids! Its gonna happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) "Referendum Campaign Ban Extends to Social Media, Line, SMS" Good luck with that. Edited August 28, 2015 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 "If you express your opinion in a normal way, its fine, for example, by expressing opinions on TV shows. You know, I'm not so sure it is normal for most people to find themselves on tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, LINE messages being monitored by Thai government The Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Ministry in Thailand has confirmed it is monitoring LINE message conversations. According to The Nation, ICT minister Pornchai Rujiprapa said: “We can monitor all the nearly 40 million LINE messages sent by people in Thailand each day.”tech.thaivisa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I bet they would like to use this switch if they could :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Sounds very much like Paranoia !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I think there is an encryption option in Line, But as Line has an office in Thailand it may be useless http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/news/line-app-gets-hidden-chat-feature-for-encrypted-ephemeral-messaging-563268 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kannikapor88 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, LINE messages being monitored by Thai government The Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Ministry in Thailand has confirmed it is monitoring LINE message conversations. According to The Nation, ICT minister Pornchai Rujiprapa said: “We can monitor all the nearly 40 million LINE messages sent by people in Thailand each day.”tech.thaivisa.com I guess its no wonder that Thailand have 0 per cent unemployment (at least thats what they claim) when thousands of people are employed by watching peoples messages ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Those old army people seem to not understand that the people they target with this threat are the ones who understand how to go under the radar by using full encryption services, encrypted mail. Of course they may have asked the NSA some help They become plain stupid...before they could hide whatever they want and play their little game while most of the population was kept unaware of everything Unfortunately now with the internet this kind of hide and seek is not possible anymore and even the people they despise like the isaan people or "red" as they label them are pretty aware of the use of the internet and is also why they are not so docile anymore.... Edited August 28, 2015 by GeorgesAbitbol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, and the cute chiwouha stickers my daughter sends me? He must be mighty bored! On a more sinister note, could this be a pretext to close down social media? DID you register your sim card? if yes then not to difficult to track you down with all your info now recorded via your mobile... So now the gov want to stop the population from commenting on the constitution by criminalizing it. only people on the TV can comment their thoughts. Why are they so frightened? When are the thought police coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, and the cute chiwouha stickers my daughter sends me? He must be mighty bored! On a more sinister note, could this be a pretext to close down social media? Looks like a cute way of saying your social media is being monitored. Would love to see their 'trigger' word list for that. Or just scare tactics............................... They claimed to be able to monitor line before. The servers sit in Japan I think it was reported. They can't eavesdrop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxiJaz Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, LINE messages being monitored by Thai government The Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Ministry in Thailand has confirmed it is monitoring LINE message conversations. According to The Nation, ICT minister Pornchai Rujiprapa said: “We can monitor all the nearly 40 million LINE messages sent by people in Thailand each day.”tech.thaivisa.com That's 28,000 messages an hour, who's reading them? I guess its software. Also, 40 million messages is low, I probably send 100 messages a day in a Line conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, and the cute chiwouha stickers my daughter sends me? He must be mighty bored! On a more sinister note, could this be a pretext to close down social media? Looks like a cute way of saying your social media is being monitored. Would love to see their 'trigger' word list for that. Or just scare tactics............................... They claimed to be able to monitor line before. The servers sit in Japan I think it was reported. They can't eavesdrop it. Next they will probably make it illegal to reveal their snooping capabilities or lack thereof. It's a slippery slope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I agree, peasants should never be allowed to express opinions. Opinions are the work of the devil, who allowed them to undermine all those in power. We cannot have such things going on anywhere. So this is your last post? Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 "If you express your opinion in a normal way, its fine, for example, by expressing opinions on TV shows. You know, I'm not so sure it is normal for most people to find themselves on tv. or posting on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Those old army people seem to not understand that the people they target with this threat are the ones who understand how to go under the radar by using full encryption services, encrypted mail. Of course they may have asked the NSA some help They become plain stupid...before they could hide whatever they want and play their little game while most of the population was kept unaware of everything Unfortunately now with the internet this kind of hide and seek is not possible anymore and even the people they despise like the isaan people or "red" as they label them are pretty aware of the use of the internet and is also why they are not so docile anymore.... From my experience it is the opposite.....people are starting to communicate more and are seeing through the Thaksin/red/ptp propoganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, LINE messages being monitored by Thai government The Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Ministry in Thailand has confirmed it is monitoring LINE message conversations. According to The Nation, ICT minister Pornchai Rujiprapa said: “We can monitor all the nearly 40 million LINE messages sent by people in Thailand each day.”tech.thaivisa.com That's 28,000 messages an hour, who's reading them? I guess its software. Also, 40 million messages is low, I probably send 100 messages a day in a Line conversation. If my good lady wife is anything to go by i would hazard the estimate is out by at least one order of magnitude..i.e 400 million messages or more likely 4 billion line messages per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, and the cute chiwouha stickers my daughter sends me? He must be mighty bored! On a more sinister note, could this be a pretext to close down social media? DID you register your sim card? if yes then not to difficult to track you down with all your info now recorded via your mobile...So now the gov want to stop the population from commenting on the constitution by criminalizing it. only people on the TV can comment their thoughts. Why are they so frightened? When are the thought police coming? They are frightened because self serving corrupt politicians spend loads of money on people who can spread propaganda fairly well... Thailand has been on the the brink of civil war just because of this. It is understandable that they are trying to avoid this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 If you express your opinion in a normal way, it’s fine, for example, by expressing opinions on TV shows. perfectly normal way to express yourself up here in the NE - everyone has an opinion on TV shows... like the show on Friday night with the "PM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 How on earth are they going to enforce that? I must use Line a dozen times a day - is there someone looking at my texts, LINE messages being monitored by Thai government The Information and Communication Technology (ICT) Ministry in Thailand has confirmed it is monitoring LINE message conversations. According to The Nation, ICT minister Pornchai Rujiprapa said: “We can monitor all the nearly 40 million LINE messages sent by people in Thailand each day.” tech.thaivisa.com I guess its no wonder that Thailand have 0 per cent unemployment (at least thats what they claim) when thousands of people are employed by watching peoples messages ... They are going to keep a running tab of who gin kao reu yang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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