Kids sleeping in parents room

[NoshowJones]

I know some farang that sleep with a cat or dog in their bed.

I had a black labrador for fourteen years and she always slept with me on my bed, except when I had female company.

[NoshowJones]

Our daughter has been in her own room the past 6 months (she's 3 and a half).

The wife agrees its much better this way and our daughter likes it too. The wife does, however, have to go to bed with our daughter first, then sneak into our room after she falls asleep.

I put a stop to the nonsense of the whole family sleeping in the same bed together, by moving into the guest room myself. It only took about 6 months before wifey missed me

"It only took about 6 months before wifey missed me", as long as that????????????

[thailandforumaddict]

Japan also ! The great way of Asian to help keeps and especially boys to never become adults...

[SGX]

I know some farang that sleep with a cat or dog in their bed.

I,ve slept with a few dogs in my time also ................but that,s another story

I slept with a town Bike.. she was abit loose in the backend

[JohnnyJazz]

Jonnyjazz, you'd obviously planned on making thailand your home but didn't bother to read up on culture & traditon. So typical of many who settle in developing countries, it's all about the sex. If you'd read up on tradition & culture you'd see this is the norm in Asian countries.

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[Toscano]

I live in rural northeast Thailand . In our village there are many houses that don't have bedrooms , the whole family dosses down on the floor together in the livingroom , perhaps watching television until they fall asleep . Mostly they sleep in Tshirt and shorts or sarong , no pretty nighties or pyjamas . Everyone sleeps on rush mats on the floor , maybe with Kapok filled mattresses for a bit of added comfort . Thais general say " Sleep On The Bed " so its not as if they are snuggled under the covers . My guess is that there is little or no intimacy , or very quick and discreet when everyone else is asleep . In the last few years many sex motels have been constructed , one or two in the country nearby every village , which provides somewhere for couple to enjoy privacy .

[louse1953]

Step sons hate farang stand in dads that's probably why he did one so quick.

Well that's BS.I know plenty of stepsons that that treat the stepfather like there own and never want to see their father again.

[Asheron]

Jonnyjazz, you'd obviously planned on making thailand your home but didn't bother to read up on culture & traditon. So typical of many who settle in developing countries, it's all about the sex. If you'd read up on tradition & culture you'd see this is the norm in Asian countries.

So because "something" is a tradition and culture does that mean "we" have to accept it? Would you mutilate your daughter if you lived in Egypt? Do you treat your son like a God and your daughter like a servant? Or where do you draw the line about what is accepted or not? If you don't "draw a line", why do you let your own traditions and culture be trampled on just because you happen to live in an asian country?

[richard_smith237]

Its the norm in the UK for a baby to have their own room pretty much right out of the gates... (at least in my limited experience which includes family and friends).

We now have a 20 month old little boy who co-sleeps with us.

At first I was determined only to let him in our bed with a 'snuggle co-sleeper' for just the first month or two after which time we move our Son to his nursery bedroom.

It didn't work out that way. At about 4 months of age we tried to move him, the noise and torment was horrific, he lost his voice through crying so much, we were tough, but we yielded, our Son won.

To add to this he's an extremely happy, easy, fun and loving child - for the past year+ we've not wished to change a winning formula. He's obviously secure as he is.

Having him wake me up in the morning with his beautiful grinning smiley face 1cm from mine, 1 finger up my nose, the other in my eye has been one of the most wonderful experiences of fatherhood.

But, at 20 months its time to move. Not only because he's kicked me endlessly for the past few nights keeping me awake, but also to allow for his sense of independence.

Having carried out a little research into the 'co-sleeping' debate its clear that the practice is far more common in Asia and more common in the US and the rest of Europe than it is in the UK.

It seems there really is no 'right formula' other than being happy and caring parents. However, for the mental wellbeing of the child co-sleeping beyond a certain age can't be healthy.

I would suggest this age is about 3 years old as it's when they become far more self aware and will start spending greater amounts of time away from parents at School etc.

Both my Wife and I (or just I) are going to try and ensure our Son is sleeping in his own room by 2 years old.

[sammygood]

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[stoneyboy]

Many of the usual thai haters will exaggerate, but it is true that this is a custom all over Asia, not just SE Asia. After 3-4 years age, they usually sleep in their own beds but in the same room. And move out around 8 yrs old.

Can you elaborate further in the case of my nephew I speak only from personal experience,as I said in this instance he was 16.

Ok he wasn't sucking mummy's left boob but it sounds better.

Exactly, you wrote a lying troll post to encourage the Thai-haters and you should be banned...

It's called a sense of humour something you clearly don't possess.

[nemrut]

It may be what people do here but I'm not from here I'm a foreigner.

Why should westerners be expected to bow down to local traditions such as this if they choose not to.

In my house it's my rules is that OK with the remaining TV members who have adapted to living like the natives.

I was raised to be independent and once old enough to fend for myself,ok that's not what happens here,I/we don't have to conform to it just because we live here.

Those who bow down to most of these stupid demands are pussy whipped and scared of the old lady.

Don't do as I do do as I say.

Who said you should bow down to local traditions? But equating them with 'stupid demands' shows you neither respect the culture nor its people.

You can choose to live as an 'independent' westerner and dismissive of Thai traditions, but your quality of life and interactions with Thais will likely suffer as a result.

[Asheron]

It may be what people do here but I'm not from here I'm a foreigner.

Why should westerners be expected to bow down to local traditions such as this if they choose not to.

In my house it's my rules is that OK with the remaining TV members who have adapted to living like the natives.

I was raised to be independent and once old enough to fend for myself,ok that's not what happens here,I/we don't have to conform to it just because we live here.

Those who bow down to most of these stupid demands are pussy whipped and scared of the old lady.

Don't do as I do do as I say.

Who said you should bow down to local traditions? But equating them with 'stupid demands' shows you neither respect the culture nor its people.

You can choose to live as an 'independent' westerner and dismissive of Thai traditions, but your quality of life and interactions with Thais will likely suffer as a result.

Well... "stupid demands" deserve no respect. What each of us view as "stupid demands" is different.

[balo]

It's not only in SE Asia you will find this. One of my neighbors here in Jomtien is a Russian family, they sleep and live together in one big studio room . The 12 and 10 year old together with the parents . They come from Siberia and used to live in similar conditions there. Go back 80-100 years in Europe and the working class lived and slept in the same way, basically one room and a kitchen.

SE Asia has traditions this way , who needs silly furniture anyway, just give them a matress on the floor and they sleep like a baby.

[benalibina]

It may be what people do here but I'm not from here I'm a foreigner.

Why should westerners be expected to bow down to local traditions such as this if they choose not to.

In my house it's my rules is that OK with the remaining TV members who have adapted to living like the natives.

I was raised to be independent and once old enough to fend for myself,ok that's not what happens here,I/we don't have to conform to it just because we live here.

Those who bow down to most of these stupid demands are pussy whipped and scared of the old lady.

Don't do as I do do as I say.

Who said you should bow down to local traditions? But equating them with 'stupid demands' shows you neither respect the culture nor its people.

You can choose to live as an 'independent' westerner and dismissive of Thai traditions, but your quality of life and interactions with Thais will likely suffer as a result.

Yes....and that is why the baby/child needs to sleep in the same bed/room as the parents........jeezzzz.

Btw...the arguments about ghosts/spirits....who tells that to the children ?

For many it seems that they are under control of their wife/gf......ahh well...better not any more arguments in the house...

[thehelmsman]

It may be what people do here but I'm not from here I'm a foreigner.

Why should westerners be expected to bow down to local traditions such as this if they choose not to.

In my house it's my rules is that OK with the remaining TV members who have adapted to living like the natives.

I was raised to be independent and once old enough to fend for myself,ok that's not what happens here,I/we don't have to conform to it just because we live here.

Those who bow down to most of these stupid demands are pussy whipped and scared of the old lady.

Don't do as I do do as I say.

Who said you should bow down to local traditions? But equating them with 'stupid demands' shows you neither respect the culture nor its people.

You can choose to live as an 'independent' westerner and dismissive of Thai traditions, but your quality of life and interactions with Thais will likely suffer as a result.

Yes....and that is why the baby/child needs to sleep in the same bed/room as the parents........jeezzzz.

Btw...the arguments about ghosts/spirits....who tells that to the children ?

For many it seems that they are under control of their wife/gf......ahh well...better not any more arguments in the house...

Sleeping with baby starts out as an easy arrangement for breast feeding early on and rolls into an easy arrangement for bottle feeding. Easy way to make sure baby has enough covers in the cold, ours would always kick them off and later be cold if not for us to be there. She's only 3 and know for a fact she won't be sleeping in our room till 10 0r 12. for one thing she's too strong willed for that.

And as far as ghosts go, just by watching TV they get the idea. Even cartoons are weirdly filled with spirits.

A family member died not far away and of course there was drinking for days till all hours. An old wood house, so I go down to take a leak in the darkness and when I returned I went under the house and lightly began knocking under where the people were gathered. Days later they were still laughing at this. yes they were genuinely scared. The house was on a small dirtway and secluded, wives had to escorted home because they were afraid of the ghost, others had stories of being visited by the ghost at home.

Now the creepy part of this is a picture was taken of one of the sons during our drinking. In the picture you could clearly see a skeleton sort of hand resting on his shoulder.

[thailand49]

Step sons hate farang stand in dads that's probably why he did one so quick.

Well that's BS.I know plenty of stepsons that that treat the stepfather like there own and never want to see their father again.

I agree 100%! Many people speak that they understand then the next word out of their month indicates they clearly have no idea about loving or being a father to someone else kid. I was at a adoption hearing a number of years ago for a family member in Bangkok. The people at this Thai agency are some of the best English speaking individuals I have met ever in Thailand. In the hearing I still remember what the department head said to me in our conversation.

Her comments were she and her department is always happy to see Thai children adopted and remain in Thailand. Just because one can produce children does not mean they have a exclusive right to love them, if that was the case she wouldn't have a job. There are so many Thai children that have been abandon. As for the adoption by my family member the kids love him as their own father and the father love all his kids the same blood or no blood.

[thehelmsman]

Step sons hate farang stand in dads that's probably why he did one so quick.

Well that's BS.I know plenty of stepsons that that treat the stepfather like there own and never want to see their father again.

I agree 100%! Many people speak that they understand then the next word out of their month indicates they clearly have no idea about loving or being a father to someone else kid. I was at a adoption hearing a number of years ago for a family member in Bangkok. The people at this Thai agency are some of the best English speaking individuals I have met ever in Thailand. In the hearing I still remember what the department head said to me in our conversation.

Her comments were she and her department is always happy to see Thai children adopted and remain in Thailand. Just because one can produce children does not mean they have a exclusive right to love them, if that was the case she wouldn't have a job. There are so many Thai children that have been abandon. As for the adoption by my family member the kids love him as their own father and the father love all his kids the same blood or no blood.

If the step dad is thai then OK

My lady's son was 6 when I came into picture, now 7 yrs later I don't expect him to have any feelings for me except some gratitude for providing well for him. He's a fantastic big brother to his baby sister so I have no complaints. I can see it being different with girls.

[Asheron]

It's not only in SE Asia you will find this. One of my neighbors here in Jomtien is a Russian family, they sleep and live together in one big studio room . The 12 and 10 year old together with the parents . They come from Siberia and used to live in similar conditions there. Go back 80-100 years in Europe and the working class lived and slept in the same way, basically one room and a kitchen.

SE Asia has traditions this way , who needs silly furniture anyway, just give them a matress on the floor and they sleep like a baby.

They have a studio condo in Jomtien... umm...

Being forced to live in a way (like all in same room) because of reasons like poverty are not things you choose. My ex-wifes family (from Isaan) didn't sleep in the same room as they had (have) a house with 4 rooms and each room is occupied by someone in the family.

[Asheron]

Step sons hate farang stand in dads that's probably why he did one so quick.

Well that's BS.I know plenty of stepsons that that treat the stepfather like there own and never want to see their father again.

I agree 100%! Many people speak that they understand then the next word out of their month indicates they clearly have no idea about loving or being a father to someone else kid. I was at a adoption hearing a number of years ago for a family member in Bangkok. The people at this Thai agency are some of the best English speaking individuals I have met ever in Thailand. In the hearing I still remember what the department head said to me in our conversation.

Her comments were she and her department is always happy to see Thai children adopted and remain in Thailand. Just because one can produce children does not mean they have a exclusive right to love them, if that was the case she wouldn't have a job. There are so many Thai children that have been abandon. As for the adoption by my family member the kids love him as their own father and the father love all his kids the same blood or no blood.

It's not possible to love an adopted child as much as your own biological child.

[mikiea]

It's ok. But not in the same bed. Each kid his/her own bed and stay there.

but what about .............................a wonka , wonka , wonka ?

[mikiea]

Its just plain weird and wrong.

How can you give your wife a good seeing to if there's a kid watching?

Anyone who has their kid sleeping in the same bed or same room as them, obviously isn't banging their wife.

You clearly don't have much idea how Thai families live.

They still manage to have sex with grandparents, parents and children all in the same room.

what they can manage is not the point .....why would anyone want to do that in the first place ? when my hottie and i are in action there is no room for anyone else to sleep in my bedroom or for that matter even be there .....................

[mikiea]

Step sons hate farang stand in dads that's probably why he did one so quick.

Well that's BS.I know plenty of stepsons that that treat the stepfather like there own and never want to see their father again.

I agree 100%! Many people speak that they understand then the next word out of their month indicates they clearly have no idea about loving or being a father to someone else kid. I was at a adoption hearing a number of years ago for a family member in Bangkok. The people at this Thai agency are some of the best English speaking individuals I have met ever in Thailand. In the hearing I still remember what the department head said to me in our conversation.

Her comments were she and her department is always happy to see Thai children adopted and remain in Thailand. Just because one can produce children does not mean they have a exclusive right to love them, if that was the case she wouldn't have a job. There are so many Thai children that have been abandon. As for the adoption by my family member the kids love him as their own father and the father love all his kids the same blood or no blood.

It's not possible to love an adopted child as much as your own biological child.

you be small ...........a non breeder i hope

[Asheron]

Well that's BS.I know plenty of stepsons that that treat the stepfather like there own and never want to see their father again.

I agree 100%! Many people speak that they understand then the next word out of their month indicates they clearly have no idea about loving or being a father to someone else kid. I was at a adoption hearing a number of years ago for a family member in Bangkok. The people at this Thai agency are some of the best English speaking individuals I have met ever in Thailand. In the hearing I still remember what the department head said to me in our conversation.

Her comments were she and her department is always happy to see Thai children adopted and remain in Thailand. Just because one can produce children does not mean they have a exclusive right to love them, if that was the case she wouldn't have a job. There are so many Thai children that have been abandon. As for the adoption by my family member the kids love him as their own father and the father love all his kids the same blood or no blood.

It's not possible to love an adopted child as much as your own biological child.

you be small ...........a non breeder i hope

You just can't, it''s a biological thing. To think otherwise is just plain dumb. If you were in a position where both your adopted child and biological child needed a kidney from you (and both were a match) to survive you would in a heartbeat give it to the biological child. If you wouldn't then there are some faulty "wires" in you...

[misterphil]

Its just plain weird and wrong.

How can you give your wife a good seeing to if there's a kid watching?

Anyone who has their kid sleeping in the same bed or same room as them, obviously isn't banging their wife.

You clearly don't have much idea how Thai families live.

They still manage to have sex with grandparents, parents and children all in the same room.

what they can manage is not the point .....why would anyone want to do that in the first place ? when my hottie and i are in action there is no room for anyone else to sleep in my bedroom or for that matter even be there .....................

+1

Its plain to see on here that there's certain TV members who are controlled by their Thai ladies.

Those that have kids in the same bed as them need to wake up and smell the coffee. Its not to keep them safe and away from the bogey man, its because their Thai ladies don't want sex with them, and use the kid as an excuse.

Those that have another mans kid in the same bed need locking up.

[thailand49]

Step sons hate farang stand in dads that's probably why he did one so quick.

Well that's BS.I know plenty of stepsons that that treat the stepfather like there own and never want to see their father again.

I agree 100%! Many people speak that they understand then the next word out of their month indicates they clearly have no idea about loving or being a father to someone else kid. I was at a adoption hearing a number of years ago for a family member in Bangkok. The people at this Thai agency are some of the best English speaking individuals I have met ever in Thailand. In the hearing I still remember what the department head said to me in our conversation.

Her comments were she and her department is always happy to see Thai children adopted and remain in Thailand. Just because one can produce children does not mean they have a exclusive right to love them, if that was the case she wouldn't have a job. There are so many Thai children that have been abandon. As for the adoption by my family member the kids love him as their own father and the father love all his kids the same blood or no blood.

It's not possible to love an adopted child as much as your own biological child.

And your answer just confirm what I was saying and others involved with adoptions. I say it again and I've heard it from many religious leaders and I'm not religious at all and again " Being able to parent a child does not give those parent a exclusive right to love them " Many people like you can not understand for a minute and that goes for majority of Thais here in Thailand how a non-father can love a child not his own so much. It is so foreign to them and people like you. Go to support groups for adopted parents and you would have a impossible time winning your argument, impossible.

I've seen it first hand and experience it myself with my cousin here in Thailand. He has 2 of his own and a adopted son since he was 6 month old and he love this kid as much as his own two. There is no difference to him and when the kid was 7, he officially adopted him. In the interview, the Thai officials spoke to him and everyone had to hold back tears including myself. Although 7 years, he spoke how he love his father and there was nothing more he wanted than to be his son. He could see how lucky he was and how much he does for all of them each day by making sure they had enough food on the table and clean clothes. He never knew he was not his real father until a year ago because he never show anything but love for all of them, never raised his voice nor his hand against any of them. Today, all his kids are getting older and as Thai kids they get in trouble I've seen my cousin without concern for his own welfare go up against gangs to keep them away from all his kids.

My cousin Will and Trust does not distinguish anything but equal love for all his kids.

My views are just that,, not here to change your mind because your views are very common. You prove what I have been told and seen first hand. I'm not into name calling but to say someone is "dump" for feeling this way comes from a narrow minded ignorant individual. To use the kidney to try to justify your point comes from someone who just have no idea who thoughts are simple! I hope you and no one ever has to make such a choice in life! Knowing him he would give to the one who needs it the most at the moment and hope the mother and other sibbling would do the right thing.

[Bardeh]

Its just plain weird and wrong.

How can you give your wife a good seeing to if there's a kid watching?

Anyone who has their kid sleeping in the same bed or same room as them, obviously isn't banging their wife.

You clearly don't have much idea how Thai families live.

They still manage to have sex with grandparents, parents and children all in the same room.

what they can manage is not the point .....why would anyone want to do that in the first place ? when my hottie and i are in action there is no room for anyone else to sleep in my bedroom or for that matter even be there .....................

+1

Its plain to see on here that there's certain TV members who are controlled by their Thai ladies.

Those that have kids in the same bed as them need to wake up and smell the coffee. Its not to keep them safe and away from the bogey man, its because their Thai ladies don't want sex with them, and use the kid as an excuse.

Those that have another mans kid in the same bed need locking up.

Bear with me here, because I know what I'm about to suggest is weird and strange. But have you ever heard that you don't have to have sex in your bed? For example, spare bedrooms also exist! It's perfectly possible to make love in the shower! Hell, it's even just about feasible to have a go on the sofa! Bringing sex into the equation when you're talking about co-sleeping with kids says far more about you than those you are trying to disparage.

[misterphil]

+1

what they can manage is not the point .....why would anyone want to do that in the first place ? when my hottie and i are in action there is no room for anyone else to sleep in my bedroom or for that matter even be there .....................

Its just plain weird and wrong.

How can you give your wife a good seeing to if there's a kid watching?

Anyone who has their kid sleeping in the same bed or same room as them, obviously isn't banging their wives.

Its plain to see on here that there's certain TV members who are controlled by their Thai ladies.

Those that have kids in the same bed as them need to wake up and smell the coffee. Its not to keep them safe and away from the bogey man, its because their Thai ladies don't want sex with them, and use the kid as an excuse.

Those that have another mans kid in the same bed need locking up.

Bear with me here, because I know what I'm about to suggest is weird and strange. But have you ever heard that you don't have to have sex in your bed? For example, spare bedrooms also exist! It's perfectly possible to make love in the shower! Hell, it's even just about feasible to have a go on the sofa! Bringing sex into the equation when you're talking about co-sleeping with kids says far more about you than those you are trying to disparage.

Yeah you're right weird and strange.

The world was in uproar when Michael Jackson confessed to have young boys sleep in his bed. Now clowns on here are saying its alright.

Get a grip.

[MaeJoMTB]

Its plain to see on here that there's certain TV members who are controlled by their Thai ladies.

Those that have kids in the same bed as them need to wake up and smell the coffee. Its not to keep them safe and away from the bogey man, its because their Thai ladies don't want sex with them, and use the kid as an excuse.

Those that have another mans kid in the same bed need locking up.

It was a bit strange at first, but I've got used to my kid sleeping with us.

He's 4 now, we have nice pillow fights before he sleeps.

Sex isn't a problem, once he's asleep WW3 wouldn't wake him up.

I guess some guys can't adapt to a different country with a different culture.

Some really weird ideas in your post, my English wife of 30 years didn't have our kids sleeping in the room and didn't have sex with me either.

No excuses needed, apart from, not in the mood, have a headache, wrong time of the month, etc.

[Bardeh]

+1

what they can manage is not the point .....why would anyone want to do that in the first place ? when my hottie and i are in action there is no room for anyone else to sleep in my bedroom or for that matter even be there .....................

Its just plain weird and wrong.

How can you give your wife a good seeing to if there's a kid watching?

Anyone who has their kid sleeping in the same bed or same room as them, obviously isn't banging their wives.

Its plain to see on here that there's certain TV members who are controlled by their Thai ladies.

Those that have kids in the same bed as them need to wake up and smell the coffee. Its not to keep them safe and away from the bogey man, its because their Thai ladies don't want sex with them, and use the kid as an excuse.

Those that have another mans kid in the same bed need locking up.

Bear with me here, because I know what I'm about to suggest is weird and strange. But have you ever heard that you don't have to have sex in your bed? For example, spare bedrooms also exist! It's perfectly possible to make love in the shower! Hell, it's even just about feasible to have a go on the sofa! Bringing sex into the equation when you're talking about co-sleeping with kids says far more about you than those you are trying to disparage.

Yeah you're right weird and strange.

The world was in uproar when Michael Jackson confessed to have young boys sleep in his bed. Now clowns on here are saying its alright.

Get a grip.

So it's the same when Michael Jackson sleeps with stranger's kids in his bed as sleeping in the same bed as your own child?

What I'm saying is, the bed doesn't have to be a designated 'place for sex' that disbars having your kid share it with you. Don't get me wrong - if people would prefer to have their kids sleep in a separate room (actually my own feelings) then that's fine. Your reasoning for forbidding it is very strange and quite disturbing. Beds and bedrooms aren't only for sex, especially in a family setting.