madmonk888 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 So I went to Immigration for my 90 days and the enthusiast officer in her haste ripped the top of my page off and the top of my re entry permit. When I asked her if it was ok, of course she said it was ok, I left and then realised I accept 'ok' without really thinking about the consequences You can just read the number at the top of the re entry, do you think I will have any problems at Don Muang when I return I am leaving the country shortly, anyone had anything similar ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. Wow, that sounds serious and I am off to the airport soon... I hope it will be ok, it's only the top of the page... I better check, I can't believe it, thanks for the quick reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. Wow, that sounds serious and I am off to the airport soon... I hope it will be ok, it's only the top of the page... I better check, I can't believe it, thanks for the quick reply this is from the government website, I have an appointment at the end of the month at Trendy to renew my passport so I hope I can get in and out this time. Definition of a damaged passport A damaged passport is one which is not in a condition to be accepted as proof of identity. Damage may include the following: • Details are indecipherable. • The laminate has lifted enough to allow the possibility of photo substitution. • Discoloration to the biodata page. • Chemical or ink spillage on any page . • Missing or detached pages • The chip or antenna shows through the endpaper on the back cover for the new style e-passports. • The chip has been identified as damaged following investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. Theoretical nonsense, how many times do passports get "defaced" by staples securing arrival cards or 90 day report receipts and then torn slightly by their removal, or written on? The passport does not become invalid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) • Details are indecipherable. • this one is your only concern ....... if it's readable ... it's fine , stop the panic !! All your details are on file ........ that's why she said it's OK !! Edited September 14, 2015 by steven100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. Theoretical nonsense, how many times do passports get "defaced" by staples securing arrival cards or 90 day report receipts and then torn slightly by their removal, or written on? The passport does not become invalid. A staple or a slight "tear" would not involve "ripping the top of a page off and the top of a re entry permit." As suggested the OP needs to take advice about the usability of the passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. Theoretical nonsense, how many times do passports get "defaced" by staples securing arrival cards or 90 day report receipts and then torn slightly by their removal, or written on? The passport does not become invalid. A staple or a slight "tear" would not involve "ripping the top of a page off and the top of a re entry permit." As suggested the OP needs to take advice about the usability of the passport. rubbish ....... if it's readable , it's fine , you want him to make a big fuss about a tear ? he will really look stupid if he does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thanks guys, when I renew the passport at the end of the month I am hoping it will be just a renew but we all know what we might have to deal with as we approach passport control so I hope as it can be read all will be ok Here's a stupid question is it the number written above the re entry permit you need for the entry card of the number inside the box, which is called :-) "number". Which one is the number that takes over from your extension. If it's the one in the box then no worries it's readable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. Theoretical nonsense, how many times do passports get "defaced" by staples securing arrival cards or 90 day report receipts and then torn slightly by their removal, or written on? The passport does not become invalid. A staple or a slight "tear" would not involve "ripping the top of a page off and the top of a re entry permit." As suggested the OP needs to take advice about the usability of the passport. rubbish ....... if it's readable , it's fine , you want him to make a big fuss about a tear ? he will really look stupid if he does. The OP will determine what is best done. But you are correct he will look very stupid if the passport is refused at an airport or border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Theoretically the passport is "defaced" and not valid. Best seek advice from your Embassy before attempting to use the passport again. Theoretical nonsense, how many times do passports get "defaced" by staples securing arrival cards or 90 day report receipts and then torn slightly by their removal, or written on? The passport does not become invalid. A staple or a slight "tear" would not involve "ripping the top of a page off and the top of a re entry permit." As suggested the OP needs to take advice about the usability of the passport. rubbish ....... if it's readable , it's fine , you want him to make a big fuss about a tear ? he will really look stupid if he does. top right hand corner of the page is ripped off and there is a tear .... not a page missing or hanging off, it's the last page of my passport hence the renew but I have to make a trip now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The passport information is readable ...... I don't think anyone will cause problem if it's readable. but that's your call ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgjackson69 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thanks guys, when I renew the passport at the end of the month I am hoping it will be just a renew but we all know what we might have to deal with as we approach passport control so I hope as it can be read all will be ok Here's a stupid question is it the number written above the re entry permit you need for the entry card of the number inside the box, which is called :-) "number". Which one is the number that takes over from your extension. If it's the one in the box then no worries it's readable Not a stupid question at all... The number in the Re-Entry Permit box labeled "Number" is what goes on the Arrival Card (TM6) line labeled "Visa No.". It is typically <4 digits>/<2 digits>, written in pen and often half-legible. I just take my best guess at it...the Immigration officer will correct it if you wrote it wrong. On one Re-Entry Permit several years ago the Immigration officer who entered it wrote the wrong number in....then proceeded to use White-Out in my passport. I was none too happy about that, but it never gave me a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 The passport information is readable ...... I don't think anyone will cause problem if it's readable. but that's your call ... thanks, typical I have to leave the country shortly and I hope common sense prevails it's only the one page, and worst case they just give me 30 days on arrival . As long as the country I am going to can do their stamp and read my information clearly I hope all will be ok. It's the re entry I am worried about I assume my passport is ok as the main page with all my details is perfectly ok... here's hoping anyway, was hoping someone had had something similar... I'd be shocked if they refused my passport but anything is possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thanks guys, when I renew the passport at the end of the month I am hoping it will be just a renew but we all know what we might have to deal with as we approach passport control so I hope as it can be read all will be ok Here's a stupid question is it the number written above the re entry permit you need for the entry card of the number inside the box, which is called :-) "number". Which one is the number that takes over from your extension. If it's the one in the box then no worries it's readable Not a stupid question at all... The number in the Re-Entry Permit box labeled "Number" is what goes on the Arrival Card (TM6) line labeled "Visa No.". It is typically <4 digits>/<2 digits>, written in pen and often half-legible. I just take my best guess at it...the Immigration officer will correct it if you wrote it wrong. On one Re-Entry Permit several years ago the Immigration officer who entered it wrote the wrong number in....then proceeded to use White-Out in my passport. I was none too happy about that, but it never gave me a problem. Thanks mgjackson69 , that's what I thought, last time I had 4 and 2 , this time I have above a 5digit / 3 digit / 2 digit and in the box just a 5 digit with no / and no a little bit similar to the number above :-) Oh and it is half-legible too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 For the immigration officer of the country you are travelling to, it is the ID page of your passport that matters, not the page with the re-entry permit for Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howzat Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Any way let us know the outcome when you present it at immigration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Any way let us know the outcome when you present it at immigration +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhornblower Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Thanks guys, when I renew the passport at the end of the month I am hoping it will be just a renew but we all know what we might have to deal with as we approach passport control so I hope as it can be read all will be ok Here's a stupid question is it the number written above the re entry permit you need for the entry card of the number inside the box, which is called :-) "number". Which one is the number that takes over from your extension. If it's the one in the box then no worries it's readable Madmonk it is the number that starts with four digits then / and some more digits. It is in the box named number at the top left hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Thanks guys, when I renew the passport at the end of the month I am hoping it will be just a renew but we all know what we might have to deal with as we approach passport control so I hope as it can be read all will be ok Here's a stupid question is it the number written above the re entry permit you need for the entry card of the number inside the box, which is called :-) "number". Which one is the number that takes over from your extension. If it's the one in the box then no worries it's readable Madmonk it is the number that starts with four digits then / and some more digits. It is in the box named number at the top left hand side. Thank you Captainhornblower if only it was that simple :-) the number in the box doesn't have a dash in fact it is a 5 digit number. Typical the number above is a 5 / 3 / 2 digit number. I will go for the number in the box and hope the Officer when I return to BKK is in a good mood as the top of the page is missing and there are two separate numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csabo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Said it once said I a thousand times, take photos of everything. Reminds me of the time the took out the mostly departure card, then TRIED to charge me for anew one at Phuket Immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigman Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 By the law of the country which passport was granted to the citizen ...this passport remains property of this country. Hence no one should damage it and it should be in original state as whole including all pages. This officer has no rights to do the damage specially foreign passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) By the law of the country which passport was granted to the citizen ...this passport remains property of this country. Hence no one should damage it and it should be in original state as whole including all pages. This officer has no rights to do the damage specially foreign passport. Accidents happen! I very much doubt the damage was caused intentionally . Edit Spelling error corrected! Edited September 15, 2015 by oncearugge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonk888 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 just to let you know there was no issue at Don Muang and he stamped me in using the number in the box. The whole process took less than a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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