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NEW CHARTER
'Stick with tested democratic ideas'

WASAMON AUDJARINT
THE NATION

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BANGKOK: -- A 1997 CHARTER drafter said yesterday that society should deal with crises according to the prevailing system because it is questionable whether implementing an outside mechanism to tackle problems would restore peace.

Prof Dr Likhit Dhiravegin told a peace seminar at Siam University yesterday that though it was true that last year's coup might have prevented a serious political clash, it was yet to be seen whether the current government could truly maintain peace.

"Firstly, can the current political situation keep things going back on track?" Likhit said. "Also, will the situation be sustainable long term?"

Likhit - a member of the 1996 Constitution Drafting Assembly and a Royal Society Institute fellow - believes the government is pulling things backwards.

He said principles derived from a previous era could not be adapted to use for new events. Considering that the country has in the past been on a democratic course, the military-installed government is acting against time, he concluded.

Likhit urged society to deal with future crises within the system, not outside it.

He also called on people to foster respect towards one another as a vehicle to long-lasting peace. "In a democratic system, [the government] also needs to respect people," Likhit told The Nation separately.

Likhit also questioned the reform and reconciliation timeline proposed under the idea of establishing the National Strategic Reform and Reconciliation Committee (NSRRC).

"Reform will take decades, and to think that it can be completed in four or five years is senseless," he said, referring to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha's comment that the NSRRC and himself would stay on to drive reform.

Likhit suggested that old faces of the Constitution Drafting Commit-tee should be left out of the new CDC so as to avoid repetition of controversial points. "If they [the controversial points] are written again, the draft has to be voted down again. That's undeniable," said Likhit, who also rejected the notion that he had never been sounded out for a post on either the old or the new CDC.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Stick-with-tested-democratic-ideas-30269272.html

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-- The Nation 2015-09-22

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This guy is right!

The 1997 charter was good, no need to change.

Only 2 problems

1- Ability of Thai people to manage their conflicts: this is Something they can learn at school. Not a big deal if good faith.

2- Police and army have to HELP the charter = work Under charter and obey to the gvt. When the Yellow shirts invaded the airports it was illegal by Charter => Police and Army had to prevent that. Same with Suthep who brought the coup.

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I have no idea how their constitution reads. I have heard that it is 2,000 or so pages long though.

Mayhaps condense it to 20 or 30 pages might help.

Their "Tested Democratic Ideas" have failed for nigh on a century, so something tells me that whatever they are, they have failed the test.

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This guy is right!

The 1997 charter was good, no need to change.

Only 2 problems

1- Ability of Thai people to manage their conflicts: this is Something they can learn at school. Not a big deal if good faith.

2- Police and army have to HELP the charter = work Under charter and obey to the gvt. When the Yellow shirts invaded the airports it was illegal by Charter => Police and Army had to prevent that. Same with Suthep who brought the coup.

so why did you leave out the biggest one that wasnt stopped by the police, the red shirt terrorists in 2010, if the police had stopped instead of backed them there would not have been so many deaths and so much destruction. They need to simply do their jobs as stated by law with not favouratism to yellows or reds, if you want to have a bitch try not simply selecting one side, they are both bad news.

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This guy is right!

The 1997 charter was good, no need to change.

Only 2 problems

1- Ability of Thai people to manage their conflicts: this is Something they can learn at school. Not a big deal if good faith.

2- Police and army have to HELP the charter = work Under charter and obey to the gvt. When the Yellow shirts invaded the airports it was illegal by Charter => Police and Army had to prevent that. Same with Suthep who brought the coup.

so why did you leave out the biggest one that wasnt stopped by the police, the red shirt terrorists in 2010, if the police had stopped instead of backed them there would not have been so many deaths and so much destruction. They need to simply do their jobs as stated by law with not favouratism to yellows or reds, if you want to have a bitch try not simply selecting one side, they are both bad news.

Ah! So it was the Redshirts fault that the guys with the guns murdered ninety-odd innocents.

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This guy is right!

The 1997 charter was good, no need to change.

Only 2 problems

1- Ability of Thai people to manage their conflicts: this is Something they can learn at school. Not a big deal if good faith.

2- Police and army have to HELP the charter = work Under charter and obey to the gvt. When the Yellow shirts invaded the airports it was illegal by Charter => Police and Army had to prevent that. Same with Suthep who brought the coup.

so why did you leave out the biggest one that wasnt stopped by the police, the red shirt terrorists in 2010, if the police had stopped instead of backed them there would not have been so many deaths and so much destruction. They need to simply do their jobs as stated by law with not favouratism to yellows or reds, if you want to have a bitch try not simply selecting one side, they are both bad news.

Ah! So it was the Redshirts fault that the guys with the guns murdered ninety-odd innocents.

In your 90 odd innocents did you manage to include the Army guys who were murdered as well, or perhaps you conveniently "forgot" about them. I can understand that happening as Thaskin made "honest mistakes" too.

Meanwhile to go back to the airport saga did the police and military have to go and clear them all out and perhaps shooting a few on the way?

As I remember it when their leaders declared that it was over most of the protesters went quietly home while quite a few stayed behind to assist in clearing up.

Did the Red Shirts ever do that or did they just walk away from the mess they made burning a few buildings on the way.

The difference between to 2 occupations is that the airport one was peaceful and the Red Shirt one was violent from the beginning. The fact that the police in both cases didn't do their jobs was a problem that still hasn't been fixed.

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Maybe implementing good old RULE OF LAW would be the primary answer to many if not all Thailand's dismal performances in practically all areas of society including the global society.

Rule of law is a good idea. Let's start with the military, which is so above the law it stages coups and suspends constitutions with impunity.

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"Prof Dr Likhit Dhiravegin told a peace seminar at Siam University yesterday that though it was true that last year's coup might have prevented a serious political clash, it was yet to be seen whether the current government could truly maintain peace."

A serious political clash could have been prevented by the military making it clear there would be no coup and that the military would assist the police in staging a peaceful election. That would have taken all the remaining steam out of Suthep's dwindling protest.

It's clear that the objective of the CDC is to get away from tested democratic ideas, since these lead to election results that a certain minority that can't win elections won't accept.

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This guy is right!

The 1997 charter was good, no need to change.

Only 2 problems

1- Ability of Thai people to manage their conflicts: this is Something they can learn at school. Not a big deal if good faith.

2- Police and army have to HELP the charter = work Under charter and obey to the gvt. When the Yellow shirts invaded the airports it was illegal by Charter => Police and Army had to prevent that. Same with Suthep who brought the coup.

so why did you leave out the biggest one that wasnt stopped by the police, the red shirt terrorists in 2010, if the police had stopped instead of backed them there would not have been so many deaths and so much destruction. They need to simply do their jobs as stated by law with not favouratism to yellows or reds, if you want to have a bitch try not simply selecting one side, they are both bad news.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Laws apply to all comers until one side gets away with it.

This entire mess can be tracked back to thaksin asset declaration and the court caving in for political expediency.

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It goes without saying that a democratic Charter is important as tomorrow , if you have totalitarian, dictator type laws like 44 you are not a democracy and as for this administration going backwards , you are dead right there , they live and long for yesteryear, unfortunately the students stuffed that up , now they are trying to recover lost ground, nothing like a Asian military administration riding shotgun over the forming of a Democratic constitution, similar to Count Dracula in a blood bank.coffee1.gif

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